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New Ceiling Light - Won't switch off.

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  • 27-10-2012 2:26pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 199 ✭✭


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    So I put a new bathroom ceiling light
    in the upstairs bathroom, with the power
    switched off, and first time I switched it
    on again, the circuit tripped.

    There were 3 wires coming from the ceiling.
    One by itself, and 2 joined together. I marked
    the single wire with paper tape so I wouldn't
    get them mixed up.

    Wired in the new light exactly with the
    single wire going to live, and the 2 joined wires
    going to neutral. There was also a green/yellow
    earth wire, so I attached that to the earth connection
    of the new lamp.

    So I switched the power off, and changed the
    wires 'round, and now the light works, but
    won't switch off.

    Is it possible the trip blew the light switch? It's
    not clicking as positively as the other switches
    in the house, or have I got the wiring screwed
    up?

    Can I check which of the 3 wires is live with a
    phase tester? Don't worry, I'll switch off the
    power first and make sure all 3 wires are
    not contacting anything, then switch the power
    on and check which one is live.

    Really don't want to call an electrician just yet.

    If I remember correctly, (It's in a relatives house),
    the wires have a grey outer sleeve, and then one
    wire has a black inner, one has a red inner and one
    has a blue inner.

    House is about 40 years old.

    Thanks!

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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee


    just flicked through it there

    but ya- you prob welded the switch contacts with the short circuit


    the easiest way to sort out a few wires at a light is prob to identify the switch wire with a non-contact tester
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Voltage-Detector-90V~1000V-Tester-Stick/dp/B004B9C7N4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1351351490&sr=8-1


  • Registered Users Posts: 199 ✭✭ukonline


    M cebee wrote: »
    just flicked through it there

    but ya- you prob welded the switch contacts with the short circuit


    the easiest way to sort out a few wires at a light is prob to identify the switch wire with a non-contact tester
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Voltage-Detector-90V~1000V-Tester-Stick/dp/B004B9C7N4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1351351490&sr=8-1[/QUOTE]

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    Thanks! Will get one of those
    and report back next week.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 199 ✭✭ukonline


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    Got one of those non contact voltage
    testers and it lights up around the switch
    whether the switch is off or on. All other
    switches, the tester lights up only when
    they are in the 'on' position, so I'll put
    in a new switch and see what happens.

    Thanks!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,408 ✭✭✭ft9


    You need to test the switch wire up at your light fitting with the detector. See is that switching on/off via light switch. If not sounds like your switch is shot.

    Also this will allow you to identify which wire is your switch wire with the other 2 more than likely neutrals.


  • Registered Users Posts: 199 ✭✭ukonline


    ft9 wrote: »
    You need to test the switch wire up at your light fitting with the detector. See is that switching on/off via light switch. If not sounds like your switch is shot.

    Also this will allow you to identify which wire is your switch wire with the other 2 more than likely neutrals.

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    Thanks. Will do. I'll switch the power
    off, unscrew the 3 wires, switch the
    power back on, and test which wire
    is live and if it responds to the switch.

    If the live wire stays live when the switch
    is off, then I'll change the switch.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,408 ✭✭✭ft9


    ukonline wrote: »
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    Thanks. Will do. I'll switch the power
    off, unscrew the 3 wires, switch the
    power back on, and test which wire
    is live and if it responds to the switch.

    If the live wire stays live when the switch
    is off, then I'll change the switch.

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    Yes, and report back to let us know how you get on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 199 ✭✭ukonline


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    Did all the above. The live
    wire stayed live whether the
    switch was on or off, so I put
    in a new switch and all's well
    again.

    That non-contact tester is very
    useful.

    Job done!

    Thanks!

    :)

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