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The Greek Far Right - Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid

  • 27-10-2012 10:19pm
    #1
    JupiterKid
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    The economic and social crisis that is devastating Greece has taken its toll in many ways - one being the huge social unrest and civil disorder the country has seen over the past year. But another, perhaps much more worrying development is happening - the rise of a neo-Nazi far right fascist political party called Golden Dawn.:(

    Their symbol looks very like the Nazi swastika and they have a virulently anti-immigrant stance. Remember, the Nazi party started out small too in a Germany economically crippled after World War 1.

    Link:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/26/golden-dawn-greece-far-right?newsfeed=true


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  • #2
    Max Power
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭Max Power


    Didn't Greece invent the gay?


  • #3
    Rothmans
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭Rothmans


    My God that's a long article. Thankfully you summarised it in 4 sentences, or else I may have had to read it.


  • #4
    Rothmans
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭Rothmans


    FionnMcCool87 wrote: »
    Didn't Greece invent the gay?

    No, I think it was the gays who invented it.


  • #5
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    So by not liking Germany,they become more German?


  • #6
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Rothmans wrote: »
    No, I think it was the gays who invented it.



    No that was Grease.


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  • #7
    mikemac1
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    Better them then the Communists

    Who finished slightly behind Golden Dawn


  • #8
    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    Did they make much of an impact at the last General election? The media could be exaggerating their growth and popularity.


  • #9
    Dangerous Man
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    Golden Dawn eh?


    Hear about them on 60 Minutes, Hans?







    ;)


  • #10
    Skyfall
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 71 ✭✭Skyfall


    So I hear youre racist now father


  • #11
    admiralofthefleet
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    is this run to da hills second account?


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  • #12
    Skyfall
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    Dangerous Man wrote: »
    Golden Dawn eh?


    Hear about them on 60 Minutes, Hans?







    ;)

    Time Magazine actually


  • #13
    Dangerous Man
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    Skyfall wrote: »
    Time Magazine actually

    :D:D:D


  • #14
    Skyfall
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    Dangerous Man wrote: »
    :D:D:D

    Dr. Skyfall prescribes you two testes and a watching of Die Hard this Christmas


  • #15
    Tchaikovsky
    Registered Users Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭Tchaikovsky


    Was it the immigrants that made the Greeks not pay their taxes?


  • #16
    Humbert Humbert
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    *Grabs popcorn*


  • #17
    Logical_Bear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 799 ✭✭✭Logical_Bear


    and the greek far right is equaly balanced out by the far left..they have plenty of anarchists/communists that will kick the sh1te out of the fascists.

    Its always been a banana republic.Do you rememebr the english aeroplane enthusaists that were arrested for spying...because they took photo's of combat planes,set up as exibhits at an air show?couldnt make it up :pac:
    The legal repercussions of the hobby were dramatically shown in November 2001 when fourteen aircraft spotters (twelve British, two Dutch) were arrested by Greek police after being observed at an open day at the Greek Air Force base at Kalamata. They were charged with espionage, and faced a possible 20-year prison sentence if found guilty. After being held for six weeks, they were eventually released on £9,000 bail, and the charges reduced to the misdemeanour charge of illegal information collection. Confident of their innocence they returned for their trial in April 2002 and were stunned to be found guilty, with eight of the group sentenced to three years, the rest for one year. At their appeal a year later all were acquitted
    from here
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_spotting


  • #18
    Dangerous Man
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    Skyfall wrote: »
    Dr. Skyfall prescribes you two testes and a watching of Die Hard this Christmas

    But I have balls, Hans. Keeps your Hans away from my testes. And of course I'm going to watch Die Hard you Nazi bastard. It's Christmas. It's the time of year for Die Hard and Bad Santa and Cop Killer.


  • #19
    Eve_Dublin
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    Rothmans wrote: »
    My God that's a long article. Thankfully you summarised it in 4 sentences, or else I may have had to read it.

    Not to be, like, a total square n shizzle but it's a well-written article. Worth reading.


  • #20
    Skyfall
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 71 ✭✭Skyfall


    Dangerous Man wrote: »
    But I have balls, Hans. Keeps your Hans away from my testes. And of course I'm going to watch Die Hard you Nazi bastard. It's Christmas. It's the time of year for Die Hard and Bad Santa and Cop Killer.

    Following the doctors orders


  • #21
    the groutch
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    I'd still take them over Fianna Fail.


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  • #22
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,044 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    By the look of this photo, our leader may be a sympathiser!!

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/state-will-not-need-a-second-bailout-taoiseach-3276080.html


  • #23
    Red Hand
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    Cants.


  • #24
    JupiterKid
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    admiralofthefleet wrote: »
    is this run to da hills second account?


    Nope.:D

    I'm not into tinfoil hat fashion... :pac:

    ...but I do think the rise of these neo-Nazis in Greece - and also in countries like Russia, the Ukraine and the Baltic states is something to keep an eye on.


  • #25
    Fromthetrees
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Fromthetrees


    I for one welcome our new Greek Nazi overlords.


  • #26
    ringadingding
    Registered Users Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭ringadingding


    Alot of what Is normally considered unacceptable can become acceptable in times of shortage, be it food or money etc.

    Hitler went from a homeless artist to the most powerful man in Europe by feeding on the fear and hatred of the Jews in vienna ....

    There has been a rise in support for 'alternative ' right wing groups all over Europe with the leaders of the groups pouncing on the fear, anger and desire to blame somebody for changes for the worse.

    Immigrants are easy prey in these cases


  • #27
    Maximus Alexander
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    I could be wrong but didn't the Nazi party start out much less ostentatious? These guys are so obviously bad that I can't see them gaining any traction.

    How many people knowingly join the dark side? This is why Star Wars never made much sense.


  • #28
    ArtSmart
    Registered Users Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    Now, Germans getting upset, yes, time to be worried.

    Greece getting upset?

    those guys with the tutus, tights and pompoms as a soldier uniform?



    hmmmm.

    http://www.viddler.com/v/fa3950e5


  • #29
    JupiterKid
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    The frightening thing is the neo-Nazi Golden Dawn thugs seem to have a lot of support from the police forces in Greece.

    As well as being anti-immigrant they are homophobic, racist anti-intellectual and want to curtail womens' rights.

    I would not want to be an immigrant in Greece these days.


  • #30
    Annasopra
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    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    I could be wrong but didn't the Nazi party start out much less ostentatious? These guys are so obviously bad that I can't see them gaining any traction.

    How many people knowingly join the dark side? This is why Star Wars never made much sense.

    The big problem is that they are gaining traction. From reports on the BBC the other day the police are actually supporting Golden Dawn.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-19976841

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • #31
    Run_to_da_hills
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    admiralofthefleet wrote: »
    is this run to da hills second account?
    No,

    I would be more concerned about what's happening on the other side of the Atlantic. :)


  • #32
    RobbingBandit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,195 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    No,

    I would be more concerned about what's happening on the other side of the Atlantic. :)

    Actually wouldn't it be across the Irish Sea rather than the Atlantic given the Mr Marx is currently residing in Highgate Cemetery?


  • #33
    ArnoldJRimmer
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    Long but fascinating article. And not surprising. When there's little hope, and it is damn grim in Greece right now, people will listen to and follow almost anything.
    It was obviously a different political situation, but do you think there would have been that much violence on both sides in NI back in the day if there was some sort of future to work towards? H


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