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13 year old girl kills herself over online bullying??

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭HellFireClub


    seamus wrote: »
    Probably because it was never reported. Most people will go through their younger life without being directly affected by it, but rarely will they never ever hear of it. Three people committed suicide when I was in secondary school. One guy ODed, one hung himself, the other guy used his Dad's shotgun. Only one of them was actually in my year, mind.
    While we knew because it was our school, neither case was ever reported or discussed. That's the only difference in this case - it's being discussed.

    If no-one ever committed suicide in your school(s) while you were there, you're probably in a minority.

    But I don't remember hearing of suicides in schools in the area that my friends were attending. I think this is a very recent phenomenon, can't explain to myself why that might be at the same time though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    drquirky wrote: »
    BTW the brigade on here wanting to march 13 year olds off to jail for "bullying" is hilarious- I've worked in youth services/ empowerment programmes for years and trust me that would help no one- including the kids who are getting bullied. Bullying and Suicide are two separate issues- both need to be dealt with but linking the two will only increase the amount of suicides imo....The last thing a young person in severe crisis needs is a ramping up by the media of the seriousness of an issue that they face and the creation of a crisis that (however unfortunately) has been a feature of adolescence for generations

    No one here advocated 'Marching' anyone anywhere

    However it remains that bullying is deliberate psychological abuse. Unfortunately such abuse is allowed because it is remains not recognised as an offence against the person

    Bullying is endemic in society especially in schools and places of employment. This behaviour needs to be placed beyond the realms of a simple nuisance by definition and consequence

    There needs to be a real deterent to this type of behaviour for both adults, teenagers wtc and those who activly participate in such behaviour.

    The law needs to be changed to highlight the serious consequences of psychological abuse / bullying

    There are very obvious links between bullying behaviour and suicide. This area has been well researched in recent years. I don't understand the naysaying in regard to this. Why is this being link being denied here?

    The media who report such behaviour cannot be said to be anyway perfect in their response but to lay all blame on them for bullying behaviour that is insidious is devisive at best.


  • Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    As has been mentioned bullying has always gone on but now with mobiles phones, facebooks etc people are attacked on a whole different spectrum altogether. Even in places like their homes where they should feel safe they are being abused. These poor young people just don't see a way out. It's a rotten feeling to have that feeling of isolation and to have it so young when you're supposed to be having the an enjoyable part of your life would be horrendous. I really don't know how you can stop this happening going forward. Education about bullying doesn't seem to be having the desired affect. Very very sad, RIP


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Aren't there actually a number of guidelines which are supposed to be adhered to when reporting on suicides? I'm pretty sure that one of them is not to sensationalize it or to place the blame on any one aspect of the victims life. Something the media seems to ignore lately.
    It's easier to pay lip service than provide services. The attitude is a problem too though, I'm not suggesting it's not a big deal for a second but it needs to be spoken about a little more clinically generally I think.
    drquirky wrote: »
    BTW the brigade on here wanting to march 13 year olds off to jail for "bullying" is hilarious- I've worked in youth services/ empowerment programmes for years and trust me that would help no one- including the kids who are getting bullied. Bullying and Suicide are two separate issues- both need to be dealt with but linking the two will only increase the amount of suicides imo....The last thing a young person in severe crisis needs is a ramping up by the media of the seriousness of an issue that they face and the creation of a crisis that (however unfortunately) has been a feature of adolescence for generations
    For about 10 years I felt like I was bullied. Fast-forward to the last few years of school and I had some good mates but a few years later one said that myself and another in the group bullied him. All we ever did was slag him (and he slagged back) and from the first time he got obviously upset about it we never instigated a slagging match. It turns out though he felt awful about it and while thankfully he didn't do something OTT if he had and one side of the story came out it would be very misleading. I'm not saying it applies to this case but a lot of what one person decides is bullying isn't intended to be or they get so wrapped up in it they torture themselves about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,145 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    i hope that wasn't too much talk of erin gallagher being in a "better place" and "at peace" around her sister
    Children wept as Erin's white coffin arrived at the church just before 11am, a wreath in white flowers spelling ‘Angel' alongside it.


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