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Ballon D'Or shortlist

  • 29-10-2012 4:00pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.fifa.com/ballondor/media/newsid=1798663/?intcmp=fifacom_hp_module_media_statements
    The following 23 men (in alphabetical order) are in contention for the FIFA Ballon d’Or 2012:

    Sergio Agüero (Argentina), Xabi Alonso (Spain),Mario Balotelli (Italy), Karim Benzema (France), Gianluigi Buffon (Italy), Sergio Busquets (Spain), Iker Casillas (Spain), Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal), Didier Drogba (Côte d’Ivoire), Radamel Falcao (Colombia), Zlatan Ibrahimović (Sweden), Andrés Iniesta (Spain), Lionel Messi (Argentina), Manuel Neuer (Germany), Neymar (Brazil), Mesut Özil (Germany), Gerard Piqué (Spain), Andrea Pirlo (Italy),
    Sergio Ramos (Spain), Wayne Rooney (England), Yaya Touré (Côte d’Ivoire), Robin van Persie (Netherlands), Xavi (Spain).

    The only inclusions I take real issue with are Piqué, Drogba and Balotelli. Yeah Piqué won the Euros but had a pretty poor season for Barca and was nowhere near the level of Kompany. Drogba scored 13 goals for Chelsea last season, played well in a few important Champions League matches but should that really propel you above the likes of Huntelaar and Gomez? Balotelli is the same. Had a decent season for City and a couple of really good games in the Euros for Italy. Shouldn't be on the list imo.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,258 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    23 man shortlist?

    21 names too many IMO!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,656 ✭✭✭cgpg5


    Agree, Pique should be nowhere near that list


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    No Philly Hughes?

    Outrageous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    Blatter wrote: »
    http://www.fifa.com/ballondor/media/newsid=1798663/?intcmp=fifacom_hp_module_media_statements



    The only inclusions I take real issue with are Piqué, Drogba and Balotelli. Yeah Piqué won the Euros but had a pretty poor season for Barca and was nowhere near the level of Kompany. Drogba scored 13 goals for Chelsea last season, played well in a few important Champions League matches but should that really propel you above the likes of Huntelaar and Gomez? Balotelli is the same. Had a decent season for City and a couple of really good games in the Euros for Italy. Shouldn't be on the list imo.

    Does it really make a difference who's on it Sepp?

    We all know who's going to win :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭G.K.


    Delighted to see Busquets there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,428 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    How is Rooney on that list?
    The man has no control at all and gave away the silly free which led to Chelsea's equalizer yesterday. Not for the first time either.
    There are only two real contenders, Messi and Ronaldo, and they are miles ahead. It's Messi for my money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,656 ✭✭✭cgpg5


    Kompany's omision is poor as well, along with van Persie he was in the top 2 players last season in the Premier League imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,076 ✭✭✭Eathrin


    How is Rooney on that list?
    The man has no control at all and gave away the silly free which led to Chelsea's equalizer yesterday. Not for the first time either.
    There are only two real contenders, Messi and Ronaldo, and they are miles ahead. It's Messi for my money.

    Rooney is easily in the top 23 players in the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭ahnowbrowncow


    Is it just me or is Balotelli extremely overrated? What has he done to get anywhere near the top 23 players in the world?
    cgpg5 wrote: »
    Kompany's omision is poor as well, along with van Persie he was in the top 2 players last season in the Premier League imo

    He is on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,889 ✭✭✭✭klose


    How is Rooney on that list?
    The man has no control at all and gave away the silly free which led to Chelsea's equalizer yesterday. Not for the first time either.
    There are only two real contenders, Messi and Ronaldo, and they are miles ahead. It's Messi for my money.

    He was 1 goal shy of top scorer in the pl. had a stinker in the euros, how balotelli is there is mind boggling tbh. Would have Gomez/huntelaar there instead maybe


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    cgpg5 wrote: »
    Kompany's omision is poor as well, along with van Persie he was in the top 2 players last season in the Premier League imo

    van Persie's there!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    Eathrin wrote: »
    Rooney is easily in the top 23 players in the world.

    as a united fan, i think he is lucky to be there.united poor in Europe so he didnt get a chance to shine in the CL, didnt have a great euros and was largely poor from feb to may, despite scoring goals.

    his goal scoring hid alot of poor performances, he said so himself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    Is it just me or is Balotelli extremely overrated? What has he done to get anywhere near the top 23 players in the world?

    On his day he's a class player and if he continues to train hard and avoid serious injury, he'll be one of the best players in the world soon enough.

    But no, he should be nowhere near this list at the moment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭Pj!


    How is Rooney on that list?
    The man has no control at all and gave away the silly free which led to Chelsea's equalizer yesterday. Not for the first time either.

    What utter drivel. His second yellow card in almost 50 games or something?


    Unfortunately opinions are indeed like arseholes...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,379 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Rene Girard not being nominated for COTY is a bit baffling. Montpellier might not be doing well this season but come on, he led them to the title last season against all odds FFS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,278 ✭✭✭x43r0


    Serious lack of Suarez. Of course he wouldn't have come near winning it but I would have thought he might make the 23-man list


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,656 ✭✭✭cgpg5


    Blatter wrote: »
    van Persie's there!

    I know but I'm just saying Kompany should be. I was pointing out that he was up there as PL player of the season imo, with Van Persie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    Where's Les Davies?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    Edinson Cavani is another who may be a little disappointed not to make it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,428 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Pj! wrote: »
    What utter drivel. His second yellow card in almost 50 games or something?


    Unfortunately opinions are indeed like arseholes...

    Maybe there's some other reason for the lack of bookings then :rolleyes:
    He is completely over-hyped in my opinion.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,139 ✭✭✭Red Crow


    x43r0 wrote: »
    Serious lack of Suarez. Of course he wouldn't have come near winning it but I would have thought he might make the 23-man list

    lol

    Blame David Gill


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,889 ✭✭✭✭klose


    x43r0 wrote: »
    Serious lack of Suarez. Of course he wouldn't have come near winning it but I would have thought he might make the 23-man list


    NotSureIfSerious.jpg even as a Liverpool fan he is nowhere near that list for last season. Doing the business this season though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭EdenHazard


    Pj! wrote: »
    What utter drivel. His second yellow card in almost 50 games or something?


    Unfortunately opinions are indeed like arseholes...

    Maybe he means his control is cat?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,979 ✭✭✭Vurnon San Benito


    The following 23 men (in alphabetical order) are in contention for the FIFA Ballon d’Or 2012:
    Sergio Agüero (Argentina), Xabi Alonso (Spain),Mario Balotelli (Italy), Karim Benzema (France), Gianluigi Buffon (Italy), Sergio Busquets (Spain), Iker Casillas (Spain), Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal), Didier Drogba (Côte d’Ivoire), Radamel Falcao (Colombia), Zlatan Ibrahimović (Sweden), Andrés Iniesta (Spain), Lionel Messi (Argentina), Manuel Neuer (Germany), Neymar (Brazil), Mesut Özil (Germany), Gerard Piqué (Spain), Andrea Pirlo (Italy),
    Sergio Ramos (Spain), Wayne Rooney (England), Yaya Touré (Côte d’Ivoire), Robin van Persie (Netherlands), Xavi (Spain).

    How on earth is Mario Balotelli on that list? Absolutely shameful.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    Messi, Ronaldo and Falcao. The rest needn't bother getting excited


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,889 ✭✭✭✭klose


    Melion wrote: »
    Messi, Ronaldo and Falcao. The rest needn't bother getting excited

    Iniesta? It'll probably be messi, ronaldo and iniesta.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    Iniesta? It'll probably be messi, ronaldo and iniesta.

    One of my favourite players in the world but Falcao has been the best striker in the world for over a year now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    Melion wrote: »
    Messi, Ronaldo and Falcao. The rest needn't bother getting excited

    Iniesta should be mentioned in the same breath as Falcao at least!

    Surely Messi will win it anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,889 ✭✭✭✭klose


    Melion wrote: »
    One of my favourite players in the world but Falcao has been the best striker in the world for over a year now


    Indeed he's surely the best out and out striker in the work at the moment but the award isn't just giving on goals scored


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  • Registered Users Posts: 720 ✭✭✭Fight_Night


    I think this has been the closest year between Ronaldo and Messi and if ever there was a year for Ronnie to win it this is it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    Indeed he's surely the best out and out striker in the work at the moment but the award isn't just giving on goals scored

    That should count Ronaldo out of the running too so :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,627 ✭✭✭Sgt Pepper 64


    Wow, that really is shocking that Rooney is on it.
    He won nothing last season


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    Melion wrote: »
    One of my favourite players in the world but Falcao has been the best striker in the world for over a year now

    van Persie has 46 goals since the beginning of last season, Falcao has 49 but van Persie gets significantly more assists. Obviously stats aren't everything, but I can't honestly say that I think Falcao's general play is better.

    Genuine question, do people think Falcao is clearly better? He seems to be all the rage now with lots of people claiming he's up there with Ronaldo and Messi. I wouldn't say there's a whole lot between himself and RVP based on current ability tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    x43r0 wrote: »
    Serious lack of Suarez. Of course he wouldn't have come near winning it but I would have thought he might make the 23-man list

    He wasn't in the best 23 players in the Premier League last season, never mind the world


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,979 ✭✭✭Vurnon San Benito


    Falcao is a completely different player to van Persie, Ronaldo, Messi, or indeed anyone else on that list!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,038 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    as a united fan, i think he is lucky to be there.united poor in Europe so he didnt get a chance to shine in the CL, didnt have a great euros and was largely poor from feb to may, despite scoring goals.

    his goal scoring hid alot of poor performances, he said so himself.

    I wouldnt mind a few liverpool players hiding bad performances with goals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,038 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    He wasn't in the best 23 players in the Premier League last season, never mind the world

    Bollox is all i can say to that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,424 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    On his form overall during the year Rooney does not deserve to be there.

    Saying that you could say same for couple of more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭ahnowbrowncow


    Wow, that really is shocking that Rooney is on it.
    He won nothing last season

    It's not really, he scored more than drogba and balotelli combined last year. And only for aguero popping up at the end he would of won the league.

    This is coming from a fellow chelsea fan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Bollox is all i can say to that.


    He's been very good this season. Last season he was a mixture of fancy touches and lack of end product wrapped up in an 8 game suspension


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    1. Messi
    2. Ronaldo
    3. Iniesta

    Fairly straightforward this year imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    The betting for this is interesting. Ronaldo can be got at 7/2 with Messi a best priced 5/6. Worth a bet on Ronaldo anyone think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,465 ✭✭✭kitakyushu


    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    The betting for this is interesting. Ronaldo can be got at 7/2 with Messi a best priced 5/6. Worth a bet on Ronaldo anyone think?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,038 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    He's been very good this season. Last season he was a mixture of fancy touches and lack of end product wrapped up in an 8 game suspension

    Hi suspension is the only think keeping him out of that 23 i think when you look at some of the other players in there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,627 ✭✭✭Sgt Pepper 64


    Amazed John Terry isnt on it - maybe next year eh?!


  • Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭*Hank Scorpio*


    Strikers, strikers everywhere!

    No good defenders out there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,038 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Amazed John Terry isnt on it - maybe next year eh?!

    Im sure he will be there when the award is being given out, i'm here all week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,424 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Amazed John Terry isnt on it - maybe next year eh?!

    Im sure he will celebrate with whoever wins anyway, just like he won it himself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,623 ✭✭✭double GG


    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    The betting for this is interesting. Ronaldo can be got at 7/2 with Messi a best priced 5/6. Worth a bet on Ronaldo anyone think?

    Definitely worth a bet from me anyhow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭bullvine


    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    The betting for this is interesting. Ronaldo can be got at 7/2 with Messi a best priced 5/6. Worth a bet on Ronaldo anyone think?

    I think Ronado shades it this year being so instrumental in breaking the Barca Dominance, really think he should get it, alas Messi will probably get it though.


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