Premier League Draft

Bounty Hunter

Yurt wrote: »

Is it current form or current ability ?

I woulda thought it would be ability although one could argue their form is showing that ability as otherwise if someone who clearly isnt a star player has a real purple patch during this draft they would suddenly have to be rated as game changers

eagle eye

Well the wording in the op of the picks thread is the following

Players are to be judged on current ability.

IncognitoMan

Its ability. If you pick brad jones for example he is still a muck keeper no matter if he goes out and has the game of hes life toady against newcastle

SirDelboy18

Regardless form plays a big part in determining Current Ability.

eagle eye

Good pick from Jax Teller there. He was my next pick if he was still available.

Jax Teller

Pm'd Baz but think he might be away .

SirDelboy18

I had considered HBA. Think he is a good pick.

Also, Baz2009 is gone until Monday night - so I hope somebody has a list of his choices, because otherwise this draft will slow way down.

Yurt

Ah **** has he PM'd anyone his choices ? If not should we give him til Monday night ?

Blatter

As said in the OP, it's up to the individual as to how 'current ability' is exactly defined.

Personally, I look at what level I think a player is capable of performing to, and their current form, and strike a balance between the two.

For example, if Rooney had been absolutely muck since the start of the season, he'd have still have been maybe my 5th choice out of all the players available to me in the PL, purely on the basis of what he's shown to be capable of in the recent past. Now if he had been in excellent form at the start of the season, he'd have probably been my 2nd choice.

Liam O

Yurt wrote: »

Ah **** has he PM'd anyone his choices ? If not should we give him til Monday night ?

If he hasn't sent a list to someone then it would be pointless, would be skipping him anyway in the morning. But it would be unfair on him to be skipped and miss out on a round 2 player imo.

eagle eye

Yeah he was told to pm his picks to somebody and he never came back on and confirmed that he had sent picks on. He should have done that and that person could have been pm'd. I say move on and let him make his picks when he gets back.

Jesus Wept

Yurt wrote: »

Theres people that seriously wanted to play and he's taking the piss.

I was pushed for time today, Brad is in good form.

Yurt

Andy Carroll wrote: »

I was pushed for time today, Brad is in good form.

You were pushed for time today so you picked Brad Jones who is in very mediocre form.He's probably in the top 30 keepers in the league but no way should he be picked in this game.

Your taking the piss.

Blatter

Top 30 keepers? That's being extremely generous tbh :pac:

Jesus Wept

Yurt wrote: »

You were pushed for time today so you picked Brad Jones who is in very mediocre form.He's probably in the top 30 keepers in the league but no way should he be picked in this game.

Your taking the piss.

It's subjective, there are no wrong choices.
Sub me out mods if you wish.

Yurt

Andy Carroll wrote: »

It's subjective, there are no wrong choices.
Sub me out mods if you wish.

It is subjective,but if you really think Brad Jones is in better form than any other keeper in the league than words fail me.

SirDelboy18

Blatter do you want to confirm whether we move on and I'll make my pick? Obviously if someone has the PM then great. But otherwise we'll be bypassing him anyway in the morning - we may as well continue.

Blatter

SirDelboy18 wrote: »

Blatter do you want to confirm whether we move on and I'll make my pick? Obviously if someone has the PM then great. But otherwise we'll be bypassing him anyway in the morning - we may as well continue.

Id prefer to wait to be honest. It'd be pretty unfair if several people picked and he managed to get online tonight or tomorrow morning without his 12 hours having elapsed. I know it's unlikely that he'll be on but you never know. Also, this way, less people will be able to pick by the time he gets online again, meaning more players will be available to him. I think it's unfair not to let the 12 hours run.

It's not going to hold things up that much, you can pick at 9.29 in the morning if he doesn't get online by then.

eagle eye

As you can see below Blatter you told him to pm picks and he never responded. He came back on and responded to you but never sent the picks. He made it pretty clear he would not be on until late Monday night.

I think we should move on.

baz2009 wrote: »

I'm going to have little to no internet access from Friday morning 'til late Monday night. If that fecks it up, then kick me out of it!

Blatter wrote: »

Is it just this weekend where that'll be the case, or every weekend?

You'll be grand as long as you PM somebody a list of picks in the order you want them!

baz2009 wrote: »

Just this one, going to England for it.

Cool.

Moneymaker

Surprised Ba didn't get picked earlier.

Blatter

He said that before the order of the draft was made. He was third picker and he picked on Thursday evening. He might have assumed (wrongly) that his next turn almost certainly wouldn't come around until after the weekend. In fairness there's been 33 picks since his and he might see that as a lot for 4 days. I think it's unfair to assume that he's been totally negligent.

Jax Teller

He would have had to make a long list there's been like 32 picks since his last one .

Maybe skip him for this round but I don't think I'd be fair for him to miss out on 2 rounds.

Blatter

Jax Teller wrote: »

He would have had to make a long list there's been like 32 picks since his last one .

Maybe skip him for this round but I don't think I'd be fair for him to miss out on 2 rounds.

This is another thing, the list would have been huge. I think it's fair to let his time elapse for this round and then move on. I don't think there's much danger of him missing his 3rd pick, he'll more than likely have plenty of time for that.

SirDelboy18

Blatter wrote: »

This is another thing, the list would have been huge. I think it's fair to let his time elapse for this round and then move on. I don't think there's much danger of him missing his 3rd pick, he'll more than likely have plenty of time for that.

Would we then be potentially waiting the 12 hours for him again in the third round? Because if we go by the speed of the picks, LiamO and I will have ours done quite quickly and it'll be back to him again very early tomorrow.

Ares

Andy Carroll making a mockery of the whole thing. Sub him out to fúck please.

Liam O

Ares wrote: »

Andy Carroll making a mockery of the whole thing. Sub him out to fúck please.

It's not that big a deal, he'll be knocked out in the first round, it's not serious business.

G.K.

Jax Teller wrote: »

Gk can you do that chart thing you did during the Euros draft ? . I tried to do something but couldn't figure it out .

I'm doing it for my own benefit - will post for everyone at end of this round.

Jesus Wept

Ares wrote: »

Andy Carroll making a mockery of the whole thing. Sub him out to fúck please.

I post on time, that counts for a lot.

Yurt

Andy Carroll wrote: »

I post on time, that counts for a lot.

Can i ask you your logic in picking Brad Jones ? Did you think if you hadn't snapped him up this round you'd have missed out on him ?

Do you think he has the most ability in the premier league ? Has he been the most consistent player in the 5 odd games he's played ?

Your on a wind up and you know it.

Jesus Wept

Yurt wrote: »

Can i ask you your logic in picking Brad Jones ? Did you think if you hadn't snapped him up this round you'd have missed out on him ?

Do you think he has the most ability in the premier league ? Has he been the most consistent player in the 5 odd games he's played ?

Your on a wind up and you know it.

Please sub Yurt in for me.

Yurt

Andy Carroll wrote: »

Please sub Yurt in for me.

If you were even following the competition you would realize that i'm already in it.

Jesus Wept

Yurt wrote: »

If you were even following the competition you would realize that i'm already in it.

I haven't paid as much attention to your posts as you have mine, no.
Who did you pick?

Yurt

Andy Carroll wrote: »

I haven't paid as much attention to your posts as you have mine, no.
Who did you pick?

Probably because i'm taking it seriously.I picked Gareth Bale and Lucas Leiva. You have Brad Jones and Andy Carroll.Who next Kevin Nolan ? Carragher ?

Turtyturd

It has to be Doni...make his give his prize money to charity, seems like a fair punishment.

Liam O

Yurt wrote: »

Probably because i'm taking it seriously.I picked Gareth Bale and Lucas Leiva. You have Brad Jones and Andy Carroll.Who next Kevin Nolan ? Carragher ?

Since you're taking it seriously can you not name unpicked players in thread please. Especially one who could go in the next couple of rounds.

Jesus Wept

Yurt wrote: »

Probably because i'm taking it seriously.I picked Gareth Bale and Lucas Leiva. You have Brad Jones and Andy Carroll.Who next Kevin Nolan ? Carragher ?

No, carra is muck.

Turtyturd wrote: »

It has to be Doni...make his give his prize money to charity, seems like a fair punishment.

Think he is in Brazil or something?
Is he eligible... need a tricky little winger.

SirDelboy18

Blatter wrote: »

Id prefer to wait to be honest. It'd be pretty unfair if several people picked and he managed to get online tonight or tomorrow morning without his 12 hours having elapsed. I know it's unlikely that he'll be on but you never know. Also, this way, less people will be able to pick by the time he gets online again, meaning more players will be available to him. I think it's unfair not to let the 12 hours run.

It's not going to hold things up that much, you can pick at 9.29 in the morning if he doesn't get online by then.

You were definitely right on this one - Good man Baz for getting on this tonight

Liam O

ah Baz, I was going to take Raf, Knew we should have skipped you

Really tough choice there but I now have a really solid spine to my team.

Nearly picked Sagna too, didn't realise GK had him...

G.K.

Andy Carroll wrote: »

Think he is in Brazil or something?
Is he eligible... need a tricky little winger.

He's eligible - still contracted to pool. I think he's on his way back too.

G.K.

Also:



Edit: Gah, slightly too early for SirDelboy's pick, which is a damn fine one btw.

Xavi6

Hmmmm, Sahin described as one of the best CMs in the Premier League. Can't say I agree with that one.

Surpised Rafael went so high as well.

Yurt

Xavi6 wrote: »

Hmmmm, Sahin described as one of the best CMs in the Premier League. Can't say I agree with that one.

Surpised Rafael went so high as well.

I was waiting on both of those players on ability Sahin is one of the best players in the league he just hasn't settled in as quick as some Liverpool fans would have wanted.

And as for Rafael there's very few quality right backs in the league.

IncognitoMan

feck you SirDelboy18 I thought Jan migh sneak down to me

IncognitoMan

baz2009 didnt pm his picks to anyone did he?

Liam O

Xavi6 wrote: »

Hmmmm, Sahin described as one of the best CMs in the Premier League. Can't say I agree with that one.

Surpised Rafael went so high as well.

I don't see many players in that position better than him. He's better than all United's, all City's outside Yaya and all Chelsea's outside maybe Ramires but it's close on that one.

Eathrin

Liam O wrote: »

I don't see many players in that position better than him. He's better than all United's, all City's outside Yaya and all Chelsea's outside maybe Ramires but it's close on that one.

Dembele, Fellaini, Arteta who were picked before him are better imo.
There are a couple others not picked yet that spring to mind also.
I think I would have waited till round 4 to pick Sahin if he was still available.

Xavi6

Liam O wrote: »

I don't see many players in that position better than him. He's better than all United's, all City's outside Yaya and all Chelsea's outside maybe Ramires but it's close on that one.

I guess my reasoning is that it's based on current ability but we've seen feck all of him consistently since he was at Dortmund so there isn't much to go on, apart from what he was like in 2010/11.

If he gets back to that form fair enough but I'd have a much bigger question mark over him than someone with slightly lesser ability but playing well week in, week out in the league.

Jax Teller

If Baz doesn't pick before 19.57 it's my go I think ?

bullvine

Sahin has a big rep but whats he actually done in the Prem league so far? Any game I have seen of him so far hes been subbed off.

Fuzzy_Dunlop

Jax Teller wrote: »

If Baz doesn't pick before 19.57 it's my go I think ?

17:57 isn't it?