Star Wars: The Force Awakens [** SPOILERS FROM POST 4472 ONWARD **]

david75

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RoadhouseBlues

When the intro music comes on, I'm going to be hopping on the seat with excitement:-). I wont get a wink of sleep the night before.

Ryaller

Without spoiling anything... I'm still trying to process just how right Abrams got this. I was cautiously optimistic, but it's so much better than I could have ever hoped for.

If this gets bashed, well there's just no pleasing some people.

david75

Ryaller wrote: »

Without spoiling anything... I'm still trying to process just how right Abrams got this. I was cautiously optimistic, but it's so much better than I could have ever hoped for.

If this gets bashed, well there's just no pleasing some people.

Agree 100%

Ipso

doubledown wrote: »

Great! Delighted for you. It was freezing in there!

No pleasing some people.

Corholio

Ryaller wrote: »

Without spoiling anything... I'm still trying to process just how right Abrams got this. I was cautiously optimistic, but it's so much better than I could have ever hoped for.

If this gets bashed, well there's just no pleasing some people.

Surely it's someones opinion if they don't like it. I hate the whole 'if someone doesn't like it there's something wrong with them' spiel that is around these films at times.

The Golden Miller

marcus2000 wrote: »

I've tickets for this tomorrow . Do i need to have seen any of the other ones (the prequels/sequels/equel) ...will I be lost? (sorry, for not have seen any of them before).!!!

Considering there's 6 films, there's not really much you need to know going into this one if you haven't seen any of the others. It's effectively a struggle between the good guys and the bad guys for control over the galaxy. Where we left it off last, the good guys won and have been reaffirming their position since. We pick it up with the reemergence of the baddies. Not much else you need to know really

doubledown

Ipso wrote: »

No pleasing some people.

But it was! Baltic I tells ya!

The Golden Miller

Corholio wrote: »

Surely it's someones opinion if they don't like it. I hate the whole 'if someone doesn't like it there's something wrong with them' spiel that is around these films at times.

Think it's more aimed at the fanboys who will say it's crap for the sake of it, even if they think it's the greatest film of all time, just because it isn't the originals. Well even if thats not what he meant, you can be sure that will happen anyway

Ryaller

Corholio wrote: »

Surely it's someones opinion if they don't like it. I hate the whole 'if someone doesn't like it there's something wrong with them' spiel that is around these films at times.

Of course it's someones opinion. That was my opinion.

david75

I'd consider myself a hardcore fan though ive never done any of the EU stuff, and i dont see anything in this that hardcore fans will have to complain about apart from the aforementioned fewsmall quibbles but theyre barely anything.

Hurler85

I have to admit I have never seen any of the Star Wars films (bad form I know) but am eager to get going on them. What's the best way to watch them, chronologically or by the order released?

Cantona's Collars

Hurler85 wrote: »

I have to admit I have never seen any of the Star Wars films (bad form I know) but am eager to get going on them. What's the best way to watch them, chronologically or by the order released?

Chronologically and then forget you ever saw Episodes 1-3.

david75

you dont need to see 1&2 at all..watch revenge of the sith and go to a new hope and on from there.

david75

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Tigger

id go with despecialised 4,5 the rise of darth vader cut of the prequils and then despecialised 6

Sad Professor

Questions for those who have seen it:

What’s the score like? Is it mostly new? And loud (i.e. not buried under the sound effects like in the prequels)?

Does Abrams emulate Lucas’s visual style beyond a few homages? Or does he just do his usual Bay/Spielberg lovechild thing for the most part? Does it feel jarring compared to the style of the previous films?

In terms of imagination and world building, would it be fair to say this is a step down from the prequels? Similar ships, similar worlds, similar creatures, etc, as the OT.

doubledown

Sad Professor wrote: »

Questions for those who have seen it:

What’s the score like? Is it mostly new? And loud (i.e. not buried under the sound effects like in the prequels)?

Does Abrams emulate Lucas’s visual style beyond a few homages? Or does he just do his usual Bay/Spielberg lovechild thing for the most part? Does it feel jarring compared to the style of the previous films?

In terms of imagination and world building, would it be fair to say this is a step down from the prequels? Similar ships, similar worlds, similar creatures, etc, as the OT.

The score didn't stand out for me. Only made out a couple of new themes. Need to listen to it in isolation to appreciate it.

It looks and feels like a Star Wars film, to Abrams' credit.

It relies very heavily on the OT for ships, sets, alien design etc

Shakey_jake

Stabilize your rear deflectors... Watch for enemy spoilers.

FloatingVoter

As a long time fan of the dark side, is there any hope of our lot winning this time ?

I am a grumpy old man in a hoodie.

Rubber_Soul

Hurler85 wrote: »

I have to admit I have never seen any of the Star Wars films (bad form I know) but am eager to get going on them. What's the best way to watch them, chronologically or by the order released?

Watch them as they were intended to be watched i.e the order released. Watching them chronologically would just spoil Empire for you.

FloatingVoter

For a newcomer, the show is all about Darth Vader (who trained him, what he begat, is there a man in the machine ?). Watch 4,5,6 to get the picture of who he is, then watch 1,2,3 with the aid of a remote control to get a picture of his back story.
I'm not joking about the remote, I watched all 6 over the weekend in the space of 4 hours. I know the classic 3 by heart and the prequels are effects laden disasters (30 minutes each for the first two and Revenge of the Sith approaches watchable).

Into The Blue

Rubber_Soul wrote: »

Watch them as they were intended to be watched i.e the order released. Watching them chronologically would just spoil Empire for you.

Machete order, 4, 5, 2, 3, 6.
Empire doesn't get spoiled, and you know why yoda does what he does.....

Red King

I wouldn't inflict the prequels on my worst enemy, not even Revenge of the Sith.

They are brutal. Even in Revenge of the Sith I cringe throughout the whole thing.

I'd love to see Disney just erase them from history.

Sad Professor

I finished my marathon of all the films the other night and I think Sith is easily the worst. Too much plot and action, not enough story. There’s no rewatchability. And it suffers from all the same issues as the previous two films, but at least they told reasonably standalone stories about political scheming and Jedi going on missions. Turn the sound off and they are perfectly watchable. Sith is just a third act except the only thing Lucas successfully set-up in the previous films was Palpatine’s rise to power. Nothing else works. Not Anakin’s fall, not his relationship with Padme, not Obi-wan’s confrontation with him, none of it. Because the characters are still puppets on strings. I hate the way Obi-wan has to be told by Yoda to go and kill Anakin. You trained him, Obi-wan, he’s your responsibility. No one should have to tell you what you have to do now. Same with the end. Yoda tells him to go Tatooine. The characters have no agency whatsoever.

BoJack Horseman

Sad Professor wrote: »

Nothing else works. Not Anakin’s fall, not his relationship with Padme, not Obi-wan’s confrontation with him, none of it. Because the characters are still puppets on strings. I hate the way Obi-wan has to be told by Yoda to go and kill Anakin. You trained him, Obi-wan, he’s your responsibility. No one should have to tell you what you have to do now. Same with the end. Yoda tells him to go Tatooine. The characters have no agency whatsoever.

True dat.

'Sith' has some well executed scenes.... the opening battle scene was quite good & the final confrontation between Anakin & Obiwan was again quite good...

but the "fall" was, I thought, surely some sort of glitch in the editorial room..
It was so brief... so convoluted & so trivial, Padme may get hurt... ergo I must turn evil & slaughter younglings..

It was a tragic waste of what was/is such an iconic fall from grace.

Baggy Trousers

I am so excited!!

Cantstandsya

24 hrs...

david75

just enjoy the excitement and the run up its worth it

Red King

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

True dat.

'Sith' has some well executed scenes.... the opening battle scene was quite good & the final confrontation between Anakin & Obiwan was again quite good...

but the "fall" was, I thought, surely some sort of glitch in the editorial room..
It was so brief... so convoluted & so trivial, Padme may get hurt... ergo I must turn evil & slaughter younglings..

It was a tragic waste of what was/is such an iconic fall from grace.

Well I agree about the fall but the opening battle was cluttered and daft (Anakin jumping out if his fighter, cracking jokes with Obi Wan after crashing a huge ship into Coruscant likely killing loads in the process) and the final duel was beyond silly not to mention full of dodgy CGI.