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Star Wars: The Force Awakens [** SPOILERS FROM POST 4472 ONWARD **]
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Do people really think Kylo could switch to the light in Episode 8 or 9? I think after killing so many people, including his Father, how could people (especially his mom) accept him back?
Also, can Jedi's bring peeps back from the dead???
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Lots of spoilers ahead...
Um....
Just a 6/10 for me. It was ok, but just ok. An above average actioner, but only because it was familiar and it didn't totally suck balls like the prequels.
There's certainly a lot to like, but there's quite a bit, too, that I simply couldn't get on board with.
Some of the good stuff ---> BB-8, there's more personality in that robot than anyone in the entire 6+ hours of the prequel trilogy. A great little character and the owner of the best LOL moment in the film.
Han and Chewie's interaction was still brilliant (waddayamean, you're cold?).
Kylo Ren was very good, but taking the helmet off was a bit of a mistake of sorts, especially as there was bugger all wrong with his face. Why bother with the helmet? Over all an interesting character and it'll be good to see what they do with him in the next two films.
Some of the effects, both creature and hardware were fantastic and helped build a believable world, especially on Jakku.
Rey is a decent enough character and her section on Jakku is probably the best part of the film. But, unfortunately and inevitably, over the next couple of pictures, she'll get all "Jedi" and poncy.
Han Solo is still the best character in the entire series and nobody will be able to trump him ever.
Some of the bad stuff --->
Han Solo is still the best character in the entire series and nobody will be able to trump him ever.
Killing him off was a poxy idea and I'll never be ok with it. I know Ford wanted to kill him off in 'Return of the Jedi', but there's going to be a serious character vacuum now that he's dead. A bad turn of events. Personally, I'd rather that Finn was killed off and Solo was just fucked up at the end, instead of the other way around.
Speaking if Finn, he just didn't do it for me at all. I never bought into the idea that he was a stormtrooper. Not once. I simply cannot accept that this whooping, high fiving, joker was raised from a small child to be part of a crack military force, unquestioning, uncompromising and devoted entirely to duty. But once the helmet comes off, he's full of comic moments, silly dialogue and is waaaay too cool for school. It would have been much better if he been a stiffer and more serious character, conflicted with the things he'd seen and the indoctrination he been receiving his entire life. Perhaps a better angle would have been if he was resistance spy of some sort within the New Order, but had to blow cover to get Poe Dameron out of "not the Deathstar."
Some of the CGI implementation was rubbish. Seeing the Falcon bash itself off the ground and fly through trees without a bother really was a bit much and completely unnecessary too. Seriously, it was thrown around like my old Corgi die cast metal model from 30 odd years ago. Eye rolling. The aerial combat scenes too were a bit jerky at times and physically unpleasing.
Yay...Max Von Sydow! 2 minutes later -> ah FFS!!
I don't what Brendan's kid was up to, but it wasn't doing anything for me.
Mr Snook, or Snoke or whatever looked rubbish. Pretend Emperor and completely unneeded.
Lightsabre fight...'cos lightsabre fight. :rolleyes: Not only that, people who never touched a lightsabre in their entire lives are automatically pretty good with it? What?
Too much "Dark side" "light side" bollocks. I hate when the Sith, or whatever, refer to themselves as the "dark side". It just sounds stupid. It's like calling themselves the badguys.
Too much fan service. OTT fan service in fact and too much retreading of the original series. It seemed at times that 'The Force Awakens' was terrified to be its own story.
All in all, it was an ok night at the cinema to see a slightly above average action film. Disney will no doubt make an obscene amount of dough from it (which is no sign of a good film) and they'll milk the franchise until it barely resembles anything we remember. But there's still hope that eventually somebody will make something to rival the films from 1977 and 1980.0 -
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I really liked it, not perfect, but felt like a Star Wars film and a nice cinema treat. Really showed up how wrong I think they got it with the prequels in terms of style and dialog, I really didn't like the look of those films and they've aged harshly.
Was great to see Harrison in such good form, been so long and it felt like Han Solo was never gone, that Harrison wasn't rusty at getting back into his shoes. Was great seeing him and Chewie arguing with each other again
While Gleeson is having a great year I thought his acting was a bit iffy in this, like he was doing a spoof of a stiff-upper lip British man by the way he tightly moved his mouth.
BB8 was great and didn't feel like a tacked on toy, they did a great job making a simple object seem so animated. I really think it benefited the fact that he was a real object, not CGI (for the most part) and it made him feel a part of everything.
Speaking of which, I loved that they brought back actual puppets / physical make-up for aliens for majority of scenes, that they didn't need to "update" characters like Admiral Ackbar with CGI. There was CGI characters but there was enough of a blend and mix that kept me happy.
I'm not a big Star Wars person to begin with but I liked the trilogy and I think this was a fitting sequel to them, even if it was very close to A New Hope.0 -
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He says it happened to Hitler though...Think he is comparing The First Order Stormtroopers to Nazi Youth. And some of them defected instead of committing atrocities maybe.
I think the worst CGI shot in the whole film was the Millenium falcon sitting on the dock on Skellig Micheal, it was absolutely brutal, like someone messsing around with after effects on Youtube.0 -
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He says it happened to Hitler though...
I think what he means is that it happened under Hitler.
Although considering that the nazi party never fully convinced the Germans to all become nazis, that's not surprising. They could only ever get 8-10% membership out of a nation of 80 million people.
The vast majority of Germans were not nazis and a lot of party members were simply lip service members using membership to further their career or because it was required.
In any case, discussions of Germany, the nazis and Star Wars is pretty null and void. There's a superficial resemblance at best.0 -
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