Star Wars: The Force Awakens [** SPOILERS FROM POST 4472 ONWARD **]

McLoughlin

Radiosonde wrote: »

Disney suspended the release of the 3D-ified saga in cinemas, why would they release a 3D Blu-Ray? For all their faults, they are a company with a long history and a lot of treasured classics on the books who surely know how to handle a legacy. I'm sure when they get around to it they'll release properly remastered versions of the non-special edition OT.

The 3D were made but never released Disney could release them in the lead up to the new films with the films also on regular blu ray.

Goodshape

Think i mentioned it before on this thread but worth repeating – for a blu-ray quality original trilogy, have a look online for the 'Despecialised Edition'. Someone cut it together from the best sources available. Really good professional quality job.

SO much nicer than the Special Editions.

Adamantium

I still think this the best fan teaser trailer ever, like a old slumbering giant awakening, I love the tingle of the music and the darkening of the font at the beginning and music quietly playing out at the end. I wouldn't mind at all if this were the real thing. It's perfect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzfUJSGPqdQ

Roar

Goodshape wrote: »

Think i mentioned it before on this thread but worth repeating – for a blu-ray quality original trilogy, have a look online for the 'Despecialised Edition'. Someone cut it together from the best sources available. Really good professional quality job.

SO much nicer than the Special Editions.

This. A New Hope looks absolutely fantastic.

david75

The new Star Wars Episode VII movie is expected to be called The Ancient Fear.

I'll take it.
No idea what it refers to though

johnny_ultimate

david75 wrote: »

The new Star Wars Episode VII movie is expected to be called The Ancient Fear.

I'll take it.
No idea what it refers to though

Obviously Max Von Sydow is playing a thinly veiled version of George Lucas.

Radiosonde

david75 wrote: »

The new Star Wars Episode VII movie is expected to be called The Ancient Fear.

I'll take it.
No idea what it refers to though

Gah. Reminiscent of The Phantom Menace. Even if true, wouldn't be surprised if it changed.

norrie rugger

Reminds me of Sunday night Glenroe, the instiller of the Ancient Fear of Monday

Sad Professor

Given the source is Harry Knowles, I'd take that title rumour with a grain of salt. Here he is in 2004 claiming the title of Episode III is "The Creeping Fear".

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/17252

Recon_

So I may get slammed for this but I just can't believe they are getting the old crew back. It's quiet a disappointment.

If you have watched The Clone Wars animated series it is a very enjoyable show. If you have watched the historical logs they released for The Old Republic MMO they where also a pleasure to watch.

They should have gone back to The Old Republic or 500 years after the Sith Empire returned and made a kick ass balls to the wall Jedi vs Sixth movie when the Jedi where in their prime. Fast action light saber action.

Either way I'm not convinced getting Han solo and the boys back will do this franchise any favours.

pixelburp

Any rumour emanating from aintitcool, especially Knowles, should automatically have the label 'may be bullsh*t' attached to it. I'd trust their tattle about as much as I would any other tabloid news source, which isn't a great deal. And when it comes to (arguably) the biggest film in production at the moment, surely the percentage of whitenoise is only going to be greater.

Mr Freeze

Sad Professor wrote: »

Here he is in 2004 claiming the title of Episode III is "The Creeping Fear". ]

Yikes, that would have been the worst title ever.

norrie rugger

Mr Freeze wrote: »

Yikes, that would have been the worst title ever.

Sounds like you could be bursting for a crap but not able to get to a loo

Adamantium

Recon_ wrote: »

I may get
They should have gone back to The Old Republic or 500 years after the Sith Empire returned and made a kick ass balls to the wall Jedi vs Sixth movie when the Jedi where in their prime. Fast action light saber action.

Either way I'm not convinced getting Han solo and the boys back will do this franchise any favours.

God no, we had enough fast paced lightsaber action and the "Jedi in their prime". I'd much rather see a more unique concept such as one we're probably where a galaxy devastated by war and a jedi order in an embryonic state with a more morally ambiguous threat than the "Sith". A load of goody two shoes vs a load guys with black capes will make me roll in my eyes.

Even as kid, the idea of what happens after VI, fascinated me. What do you when rebels turn into politicians. Can they do it, were they ever fit for anything but fighting? Will the galaxy ever find out that Luke and Leia were the son and daughter of Vader, and would they believe there to be some conspiracy, what do they do with that knowledge. Far more interesting than 1000 superheroes on screen giving us seizures.

I really do hope that Luke/Han/Leia are still the 'main' characters of the new trilogy. It'd be cool to see a bunch of competent, older people getting **** done for a change, instead of a bunch of twenty somethings being told to learn the ways of the force and warned about the dark side for the third time. You can imply destiny without saying it

Al though given the writing I do believe we are going to get 3 films of Empire Strikes back quality writing. Let's by honest the concept is what holds Star Wars even during the prequel trilogy, not the writing (even on the older ones). It was never that excellent.

Imagine what the writers can do NOW that they couldn't even do on the OT (e.g Kasdan) because they were under the leash and sway of Lucas and privy to his whims and strange flights of fancy.

Combine the two and we are going to get something special.

Honestly I think we if we got the resurrected soul of Stanley Kubrick to direct we's still have people saying that it was not good enough.

Adamantium

Mr Freeze wrote: »

Yikes, that would have been the worst title ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwL8wlBMflA

That silent laugh says "Oh maaan George"

Sad Professor

Ideally I think the title should be able to stand by itself, as The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi did, without having to be a first or second subtitle of “Star Wars”. It can’t be that hard to come up with something recognisably Star Wars that fits the storyline of the film and doesn’t sound stupid.

I agree with Darko that it would be great to see some older characters as the main characters of a big budget franchise. I can’t see it happening, though, at least not for the whole trilogy as some of the actors just a little bit too old. But maybe they’ll be the focus of the first film before the next generation takes over.

Speaking of which, can anyone think of a good "passing the torch” film? It seems to be a notoriously difficult thing to get right. Either you reduce the original characters to walk-on appearances, pissing off the fandom, or you bring their wrinkled asses back for one last hurrah with the help of some annoying sidekick that is obviously intended to take their place in the sequel. I can understand why Arndt might have shied away from giving the original trio too large a role.

Roar

Adamantium wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwL8wlBMflA

That silent laugh says "Oh maaan George"

Always got the impression that Ewan McDonald absolutely hated his Star Wars experience and that it wasn't at all what he thought it was going to be when he signed up

Roar

Roar wrote: »

Always got the impression that Ewan McDonald absolutely hated his Star Wars experience and that it wasn't at all what he thought it was going to be when he signed up

He never had anything nice to say about the experience. I assume that he hoped for something like his uncle experienced, matte paintings, huge models and acting alongside other people. Instead he spent most of his time on a soundstage where everything was green and he had to act against a tennis ball.

Mickeroo

[Deleted User] wrote: »

He never had anything nice to say about the experience. I assume that he hoped for something like his uncle experienced, matte paintings, huge models and acting alongside other people. Instead he spent most of his time on a soundstage where everything was green and he had to act against a tennis ball.

They should have left the tennis balls in. Would have been better than jar jar binks. Probably would have had more charisma than Hayden Christenson too.

Radiosonde

Sad Professor wrote: »

Speaking of which, can anyone think of a good "passing the torch” film? It seems to be a notoriously difficult thing to get right. Either you reduce the original characters to walk-on appearances, pissing off the fandom, or you bring their wrinkled asses back for one last hurrah with the help of some annoying sidekick that is obviously intended to take their place in the sequel.

I can't really think of many films that did that, never mind good ones. Crystal Skull seems like it's an abandoned attempt to relaunch the franchise with *erm* Mutt. Star Trek Generations, but it's terrible. The preference seems to be for sticking with original stars - even Die Hard still has Bruce Willis and Terminator 5 Arnie. One of those long-running horror series, or a Japanese franchise like Godzilla, might provide an example.

Zubeneschamali

Radiosonde wrote: »

The preference seems to be for sticking with original stars - even Die Hard still has Bruce Willis and Terminator 5 Arnie.

I've heard suggestions that Alien Resurrection was supposed to be a torch-passer with Winona Ryder taking it on.

Adamantium

Deleted User wrote: »

He never had anything nice to say about the experience. I assume that he hoped for something like his uncle experienced, matte paintings, huge models and acting alongside other people. Instead he spent most of his time on a soundstage where everything was green and he had to act against a tennis ball.

He said that it them tough films to make as they had less and less to interact with, but loved the idea of making them. Much like Alec Guinness. He still thinks of them rather fondly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTWRtavVdB4

Scroll to 2:08 for SW.

Radiosonde

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

I've heard suggestions that Alien Resurrection was supposed to be a torch-passer with Winona Ryder taking it on.

That's notoriously bad as well. It's an interesting question, since Star Wars will almost certainly have to do it. Three more Luke Skywalker movies would be pushing it given Hammill's age (they'd probably run into the problem of the original Star Trek movies, where the characters were already moaning they were too old in Wrath of Kahn, obviously not anticipating another 4 films). And I'd wager Han won't make it to the final credits of Episode 7.

Adamantium

Radiosonde wrote: »

That's notoriously bad as well. It's an interesting question, since Star Wars will almost certainly have to do it. Three more Luke Skywalker movies would be pushing it given Hammill's age (they'd probably run into the problem of the original Star Trek movies, where the characters were already moaning they were too old in Wrath of Kahn, obviously not anticipating another 4 films). And I'd wager Han won't make it to the final credits of Episode 7.

Star Trek 2009 passed the torch in a way but it was back to their younger selves to move forward (still such a stroke of genius, when I think about it)

I do like the old ST movies for how the cast and crew eventually ended up making some of the movies and episodes, and it really felt like had they good sense of what they were about by keeping it in the family, which is highly unusual nowadays . It was probably also the reason they became staid by Nemesis

Talk about how you can get away with anything as long as you are sincere.
Love this review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO-4cQwjLiU

Sad Professor

Ford might be in the best shape, but Hamill and Fisher aren’t actually that old. Hamill is same age Guinness was and Fisher is only 57. They could easily be main players for all three films. Especially considering Disney want Episode 8 and 9 in 2017 and 2019 respectively, although that would mean bringing in another director since Abrams won’t work on that kind of schedule.

Radiosonde

Sad Professor wrote: »

Ford might be in the best shape, but Hamill and Fisher aren’t actually that old. Hamill is same age Guinness was and Fisher is only 57. They could easily be main players for all three films. Especially considering Disney want Episode 8 and 9 in 2017 and 2019 respectively, although that would mean bringing in another director since Abrams won’t work on that kind of schedule.

Well, there's old enough to stand in front of a camera and act, in which case they could front these movies into their 90s if they live long enough, and then there's young enough to plausibly front a series of action-adventure blockbusters.

krudler

Deleted User wrote: »

He never had anything nice to say about the experience. I assume that he hoped for something like his uncle experienced, matte paintings, huge models and acting alongside other people. Instead he spent most of his time on a soundstage where everything was green and he had to act against a tennis ball.

Neeson hated it too, didn't he almost give up acting because of it?

krudler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nJS-LPcFfw

new honest trailer

tony1kenobi

Sad Professor wrote: »

Speaking of which, can anyone think of a good "passing the torch” film?.

The Godfather.

Adamantium

tony1kenobi wrote: »

The Godfather.

On an somewhat off topic, but still on topic, did anyone know that George Lucas has supposed to direct Apocalypse Now at one point, I couldn't imagine him dealing with all the REAL monsoons, helicopters and sets being stolen and destroyed chaotic nature of South East Asia over the course of an Atlas Shrugged length shoot, nearly 2 years, was it? The man would be dead ( considering everybody else in reality almost died and went insane)