Star Wars: The Force Awakens [** SPOILERS FROM POST 4472 ONWARD **]

fitz

I just finished a rewatch of the original trilogy...Harmy's De-Specialised ones. Brilliant to see the theatrical cuts in HD.

What struck me is how badly the backstory hinted at in the original trilogy was done in the prequels. Leia remembering her mother, Uncle Owen and Obi Wan talking about Anakin like he joined a cause to fight in the clone wars and became a Jedi. Aside from being completely inconsistent with what happened in the prequels, it just highlights how there was a much better story to be made out of them.

Looking forward to the new movie, I reckon they're going to nail it.

Dair76

A minor point, but I loved that there was actual stunt work on display in that trailer (explosion sending stormtroopers flying) rather than just another CGI-fest.

Zubeneschamali

fitz wrote: »

What struck me is how badly the backstory hinted at in the original trilogy was done in the prequels.

Prequels? Disney made the prequels already?

tok9

Last night I decided to finally watch the original trilogy for the first time.

Part of the reason I've never really watched them is because I've seen bits and pieces of all the movies and know of the major plot points so I never really saw the point in watching them.

But due to the recent trailers for the movie and game I finally decided I'll give them a watch.

So far I've watched the first two movies and I think they are fine. Enjoyable movies that I wouldn't have any real interest in watching again. I reckon this is down to what I said before in hearing so much and knowing so much beforehand that I think the movies are okay. Empire Strikes Back is a lot better than A New Hope anyway.

I'll watch the 3rd one tomorrow night. I'll probably think similarly about that too but I'm still glad I've finally watched the movies. At least people will stop looking at me strangely :P

Just one thing to note that I really hope isn't in the new film. Sound in space, I bloody hate that in movies.

Zubeneschamali

tok9 wrote: »

I'll watch the 3rd one tomorrow night. I'll probably think similarly about that too

No, RotJ is where the rot set in.

Q. What happens if you hit a human with light saber? He doesn't have a light saber, he's just standing there, because you are a Jedi and he isn't. So what happens?

a) That can't happen, it's a family movie
b) He get's chopped in two, but it has to be offscreen, it's a family movie

No, the correct answer (in Rotj) is:

c) He falls over, apparently without a scratch, as if you hit him with a broom handle and said "Fall down or you're fired".

That's it, George, use the Force.

J Mysterio

Wut

tok9

Just finished Return of the Jedi and I think pretty much the same as the other ones.

I realised at the end I must have been watching the updated versions as it had the actor who plays Annakin in the newer ones in it.

I've watched them now anyway, I can't say I've any interest in ever watching them again but I do like the look of this new movie.

ads20101

Don't rule out watching them again.

Some of the best films ever made IMHO

As for the new trailer - I think I nearly had an accident when han & chewie appeared at the end

tigger123

If anyone's going back to watch the whole thing again I'd highly recommend watching them in 'machete order'. There's some great articles online about it, plus it cuts TPM out of it altogether.

thegreengoblin

tok9 wrote: »

Just finished Return of the Jedi and I think pretty much the same as the other ones.

I realised at the end I must have been watching the updated versions as it had the actor who plays Annakin in the newer ones in it.

I've watched them now anyway, I can't say I've any interest in ever watching them again but I do like the look of this new movie.

Glad you've watched them but I can't help wondering why you haven't watched them before now. I know people have different entry points into the saga but the original trilogy is the cornerstone of the whole thing....it's where it began, it laid a path for what followed. I'm not having a go at you or anything, but did you really find them that poor that you've no interest in ever watching them again? I honestly find that amazing!

Zubeneschamali

thegreengoblin wrote: »

did you really find them that poor that you'd never watch them again?

If I hadn't watched Star Wars and Empire in the cinema when they came out, I doubt I'd care now.

the_monkey

Brian Shanahan wrote: »

Don't worry on that score, JJ Abrams is in control. He's a man that could manage to mess up Wrath of Khan even after having been given the completed vers....


Oh, wait he did.


I'd recommend not going until after the first week is over, not just on the grounds that Abrams is over the film (though scepticism that he'll finally deliver something worth watching is a valid position to hold), but given the way modern cinema works, you'll avoid all the knuckle draggers and mouth breathers and be able to enjoy the film in peace (pretty much nearly every film has it's cinema take massively frontloaded these days, largely due to marketing strategies generating massive hype for massively mediocre films), if it turns out to be good.

You didn't like the 1st Star Trek he did then ?

FunLover18

thegreengoblin wrote:

I'm not having a go at you or anything, but did you really find them that poor that you've no interest in ever watching them again? I honestly find that amazing!

I've always been of the impression that in order to truly love Star Wars you had have seen the original trilogy in the cinema with the context that there was nothing else like this out there. Or at least that's how I explain the hysteria around the franchise because as someone who grew up in the 90s with the SW films on TV at Christmas etc I always found them to be pretty average (certainly amongst my generation SW just isn't that much of a thing) and I think most SW fans will admit that they arent masterpieces in film making (open to angry correction). I could take or leave them myself but I completely get how people have fallen in love with the galaxy.

All that said I'm very excited to see what Abrams can do it with it and I would give anything to be able to have the kind of emotional reaction that some of the posters on here have had to the trailer because I don't think there's another franchise that can do that.

mrsoundie

FunLover18 wrote: »

I've always been of the impression that in order to truly love Star Wars you had have seen the original trilogy in the cinema with the context that there was nothing else like this out there. Or at least that's how I explain the hysteria around the franchise because as someone who grew up in the 90s with the SW films on TV at Christmas etc I always found them to be pretty average (certainly amongst my generation SW just isn't that much of a thing) and I think most SW fans will admit that they arent masterpieces in film making (open to angry correction). I could take or leave them myself but I completely get how people have fallen in love with the galaxy.

All that said I'm very excited to see what Abrams can do it with it and I would give anything to be able to have the kind of emotional reaction that some of the posters on here have had to the trailer because I don't think there's another franchise that can do that.

As far as I can see (from someone who saw it originally in the cinemas in the 1977) you have hit the nail on the head, although my son who perhaps sees it from the other side of the spectrum (as in seeing it the other way around) is still very excited about it. (Seeing the Star Destroyer crashed in the planet was awesome).

tok9

thegreengoblin wrote: »

Glad you've watched them but I can't help wondering why you haven't watched them before now. I know people have different entry points into the saga but the original trilogy is the cornerstone of the whole thing....it's where it began, it laid a path for what followed. I'm not having a go at you or anything, but did you really find them that poor that you've no interest in ever watching them again? I honestly find that amazing!

I'm genuinely not really sure how I didn't see it on tv when I was younger. I guess I was born at a bad time in 89 since it was a good few years after. I had intended to watch the trilogy with a while as my older housemates were in shock that I hadn't seen them.

Ya I genuinely don't have an interest in watching them again. If I went into everything I disliked I know I'd annoy people here and that's honestly not my intention.

I can absolutely imagine at the time being amazed at this but personally I don't think it's aged very well.

Edit: Also as I said earlier, I wasn't completely oblivious to it. I'd definitely seen parts of the movies but never the whole movie.

thegreengoblin

Mini-teaser for Rogue One was shown today. Hopefully officially online soon.

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/star-wars-rogue-one-plot-details-death-star-1201475420/

Agent Coulson

Rogue One Teaser (Cam).

Josey Wales

So will we find out how those Bothan's died in Rogue One?

I really wasn't expecting the spin-off movies to be set before the original trilogy.

thegreengoblin

Not sure if this was mentioned but Alan Dean Foster is doing the novelisation of The Force Awakens. I love how they announced it :pac:

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/04/18/alan-dean-foster-writes-star-wars-the-force-awakens-novelisation/

Slydice

Josey Wales wrote: »

So will we find out how those Bothan's died in Rogue One?

Bothans were the second Death Star (edit) so we'll have to wait for more than Rogue One =/ They look cool in google image search though so an appearance would be cool. (/edit)

More clear and HD version of the Rogue One teaser:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivv51UmwTrw

RickDeckard

Im having a chuckle at the horror expressed in the first few pages on this thread compared to where we are now!

Good things can happen in life it seems...

Pawwed Rig

RickDeckard wrote: »

Im having a chuckle at the horror expressed in the first few pages on this thread compared to where we are now

I noticed that aswell :pac:

Build it and they will come.........

I can't friggin wait

Slydice

Though, Myrddin seemed to be mindful of his thoughts on Page 2

Myrddin wrote: »

I'll not be boarding the 'this is automatically gonna be bad' bandwagon. With control removed from Lucas, & handed to fresh minds etc...I'm optimistic about this trouncing the prequel trilogy

pixelburp

I particularly loved some of the initial reaction to the Disney takeover, with the outrage that Disney might cheapen the Star Wars brand with inevitable toy lines and merchandise, as if such a thing had never been a problem with the franchise

Tipsy McSwagger

The original trilogy is one brilliant film (empire), one very good film (a new hope) and Jedi is great until the ewoks show up and that's when the franchise fell apart.

Tony EH

Josey Wales wrote: »

I really wasn't expecting the spin-off movies to be set before the original trilogy.

While I am not expecting much from the spin off films, I would like to see a film(s) that charts the rise of the Empire to the events that happen in 'Star Wars'.

A film or series of films about the 20 years between the prequels that shall not be named and 'Star Wars' would be great.

It would have to be dark, though. No horsing around.

Pawwed Rig

maybe I am just old but when did Star Wars start being called 'A New Hope'?
When I was a kid it was always just Star Wars

Zubeneschamali

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

maybe I am just old but when did Star Wars start being called 'A New Hope'?

1981. Lucas added Episode IV: A New Hope to the opening crawl to line it up with Empire (which was Episode V from day one).

Pawwed Rig

Nobody called it that though in my circles. I think the first time I heard it was around Phantom Menace release time

the_monkey

Because then it became more apparent that this was a trilogy of trilogies ..
I remember back in '97 GL mentioning that it was a 3*3 and he took the middle trilogy which had the best story to make...