First snow of the year!

Wolfe_IRE

munsterlegend wrote: »

Cork the HQ of snow Winter 2012!

There will be war at the next Cork County Council meeting over why the Cork SnowShield had not been erected in time.

gbee

;0 IS IT OFFICIAL then!

Can Cork claim first snow of 2012/13?

Wolfe_IRE

there was snow on Sliabh Sneacht in Inishowen and in Kerry's McGillicuddy reeks as well today. But yes Gbee, Cork deserves this one...:D

munsterlegend

I wonder when the Cork Ski'ing season will be starting.

Rebelbrowser

munsterlegend wrote: »

I wonder when the Cork Ski'ing season will be starting.

I actually bought the little fella ski gear in Lidl this morning so it would be dead handy if someone would now create a piste with chairlifts in Mitchelstown or somewhere. Now we are guaranteed snow all winter, every winter in Cork it would clearly make economic sense.

Seriously, if only it was still 2005 and I suspect Anglo would have bankrolled just such a scheme!

Su Campu

HellFireClub wrote: »

EDIT: Just had this posted in my Timeline on Facebook...

Where did you get it posted from?

HellFireClub

Su Campu wrote: »

Where did you get it posted from?

https://www.facebook.com/meteotimesIRL

Sponge Bob

Larbre34 wrote: »

All the specialist salt barn storage capacity is full, including the extra provided after the two bad winters, it was barely touched last year.

Exactly

Iancar29

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HellFireClub

Iancar29 wrote: »

Check out the Webcams in Scotland!

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Jesus CHRIST!!! To be up in Wick/Thurso area now!!!!!!! :eek::eek::eek:

sunbabe08

was in the study hall all day, so saw no snow

okfine

What a Kick-Off to the winter, Touch wood it's the first of many this season

*Does Snow Dance

DOCARCH

okfine wrote: »

What a Kick-Off to the winter, Touch wood it's the first of many this season

....and it's still only autumn.

okfine

DOCARCH wrote: »

....and it's still only autumn.

o.k I got that wrong

slowburner

DOCARCH wrote: »

....and it's still only autumn.

1st of November is first day of meteorological winter, no?

Harps

Nope, December, January and February are the three coldest months so meteorologically speaking..they're winter. Even March is usually colder than November

Emeraldy Pebbles

Tactical wrote: »

It's not snow that causes economic damage, it's the lack of preparedness by us as a nation.

Snow doesn't put people on the dole, how many did the last falls cause to loose their jobs and end up on the dole as a direct result.

There was a totally inadequate response at local authority and governmental level to road conditions but that's another story.

Tactical wrote: »

The Nordic countries operate with minimal difficulties during the time of snow and icy conditions they encounter.

This drives me mad. The Nordic countries KNOW this weather is coming every year so they can put money into dealing with the snow. They HAVE to. Snow is still very rare in Ireland and unfortunately, other areas have more pressing need for money!

jeltz

gbee wrote: »

;0 IS IT OFFICIAL then!

Can Cork claim first snow of 2012/13?

There was snow in Ulster last week. It was mentioned on the weather programme. There was more in Donegal and the North West overnight, they mentioned it earlier on.

jeltz

Emeraldy Pebbles wrote: »

This drives me mad. The Nordic countries KNOW this weather is coming every year so they can put money into dealing with the snow. They HAVE to. Snow is still very rare in Ireland and unfortunately, other areas have more pressing need for money!

Snow is not remotely rare in Ulster it snows every year, guaranteed!

There are even private gritting and ploughing services along with the public services. http://www.u.tv/Articles/Article.aspx?guid=ec443264-1de2-4369-b41e-72689b9b1504

Every night from now until the middle of April, we will have over 300 staff and 132 gritters on standby to salt main roads, helping drivers to cope with wintry conditions.

"Salt barns and stockpiles have already been filled to maximum capacity and Roads Service is now holding stocks of almost 110,000 tonnes of salt."

Mr Kennedy said £5m had been set aside for the gritting operation which involves covering around 7,000km of main roads in just over three hours.

He added that, in the event of prolonged snowfall, all machines will be fitted with snow ploughs and efforts will be directed to motorways and other busier routes.

"The operation will continue until all roads are cleared, but this may take some time, even with all resources deployed," said the minister.

"In very deep snow, Roads Service will use its nine snow blowers, the latest of which can shift 1,600 tonnes of snow an hour."

Tactical

Emeraldy Pebbles wrote: »

This drives me mad. The Nordic countries KNOW this weather is coming every year so they can put money into dealing with the snow. They HAVE to. Snow is still very rare in Ireland and unfortunately, other areas have more pressing need for money!

I think you may have missed the point I was making and the relationship to the original poster who appeared to be suggesting that snow was responsible for putting people on the dole.

I was making the point that the main adjustment to be made in relation to snow and sever weather was not spending millions but rather adjusting our own attitudes towards it and accepting some of the responsibility for coping and dealing with it.

Birdnuts

Travellin back from North Mayo today and there was a nice bit of Snow on the Nephins. Also encoutered some wet snow/sleet around the Charlestown area.

slowburner

Harps wrote: »

Nope, December, January and February are the three coldest months so meteorologically speaking..they're winter. Even March is usually colder than November

So,
March, April, May, is spring
June, July, August, is summer
September, October, November, is autumn
and
December, January, February, is winter - according to the criteria above.

I've a notion that MT (and others) use different, less restricting criteria, including daylight duration.

i would have thought the Irish seasonal divisions were
Last two weeks of April, is summer.
The rest of the year is winter.




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Emeraldy Pebbles

Tactical wrote: »

I think you may have missed the point I was making and the relationship to the original poster who appeared to be suggesting that snow was responsible for putting people on the dole.

I was making the point that the main adjustment to be made in relation to snow and sever weather was not spending millions but rather adjusting our own attitudes towards it and accepting some of the responsibility for coping and dealing with it.

The reason people are ill-prepared is that we don't have to deal with this kind of thing very often. A German girl I work with told me that back home, people DO get caught on the hop at first, much like we do.

Ireland has a very spread out population. We don't have the money to have ploughs ready for even a fraction of the roads in Ireland. With the small amount of snowfall we get, it can't be prioritised. In Nordic countries, it can be as it is known that this kind of weather is coming. You really can't compare Ireland to there, not even on the grounds of "attitude".

slowburner

It strikes me that you are both pretty much saying the same thing, with a variance on the degree to which people need to look after themselves in snowbound conditions.

Emeraldy Pebbles

slowburner wrote: »

It strikes me that you are both pretty much saying the same thing, with a variance on the degree to which people need to look after themselves in snowbound conditions.

Of course there's personal responsibility, and as far I can see, many people do shovel their own driveways. Well, they did around my way during the snowy 2010 period. But at a greater level, it's hard for Ireland to justify putting the money into preparation for snow as they do in colder countries, as there are much more pressing needs that need to be prioritised.

slowburner

Emeraldy Pebbles wrote: »

Of course there's personal responsibility, and as far I can see, many people do shovel their own driveways. Well, they did around my way during the snowy 2010 period. But at a greater level, it's hard for Ireland to justify putting the money into preparation for snow as they do in colder countries, as there are much more pressing needs that need to be prioritised.

Of course.
This state is not in a position to take a wager on the weather.
It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

donegal_man

Originally Posted by Rasmus
......... shovel snow from in front of their properties, ........

Cousin of mine cleared the snow from in front of his shop two years ago and was advised by his solicitor that it was a very bad idea that could leave him open to being sued by both anyone who happened to fall and the local council. The compo culture strikes again

DOCARCH

slowburner wrote: »

So,
i would have thought the Irish seasonal divisions were
Last two weeks of April, is summer.
The rest of the year is winter.

There is a certain truth to that!

jeltz

Emeraldy Pebbles wrote: »

The reason people are ill-prepared is that we don't have to deal with this kind of thing very often. A German girl I work with told me that back home, people DO get caught on the hop at first, much like we do.

They got caught out this week with the sudden snow as did Austria because the temperatures were around 20 degrees and they had forgotten winter was around the corner.

If only it was like that here.

jeltz

Emeraldy Pebbles wrote: »

Of course there's personal responsibility, and as far I can see, many people do shovel their own driveways. Well, they did around my way during the snowy 2010 period. But at a greater level, it's hard for Ireland to justify putting the money into preparation for snow as they do in colder countries, as there are much more pressing needs that need to be prioritised.

In the UK there is a scheme where farmers use their own snow ploughs to clear public roads around them when it does snow and they get paid for the hours they do that. That costs very little as they only do it when it is actually needed.