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Obama Vs Romney

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    So final score looking like 332-206. I would have predicted closer.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Here's one that wasn't prepared earlier.


  • Registered Users Posts: 82,752 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I can already tell this will be no John McCain concession speech, that one made me tear up and I didn't even vote for the guy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 581 ✭✭✭phoenix999


    Fair play Mitt. Enjoy your comfy retirement.


  • Registered Users Posts: 82,752 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Election officials in non-reporting counties in Florida went home for the night and counting will resume tomorrow, until then it's not likely the winner of Florida will be announced. Current figures are quite close.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 930 ✭✭✭poeticseraphim


    That's gibberish. If you're going to try to be funny then at least get the translation right...


    SEE THAT RIGHT THERE IS WHY PEOPLE HATE IRISH AND GAELGOIRS..CAUGHT YA!!!

    HE TRIED THE CÚPLA FOCAIL AND YOU HUNG HIM!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    Overheal wrote: »
    I can already tell this will be no John McCain concession speech, that one made me tear up and I didn't even vote for the guy.

    Massive respect for that man, respect that I don't have for many politicians, I think the world would have been in a much better state had his turn come 8 years earlier.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Obama's first priority once he gets back to work should be to address the mess left behind in the wake of Sandy.

    He should mention that in his speech in a few minutes too.

    There are hundreds of thousands of lives turned upside down as a result of that disaster and a repair bill running into tens of billions.

    Tonight is for celebration and rightly so.

    But there is a lot of urgent unfinished business to be done on the east coast of the States.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    Fox News now shamlessly sniping at journalists. That's rich - coming from a shower that would do the National Inquirer proud.

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/11/07/five-ways-mainstream-media-tipped-scales-in-favor-obama/


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    Lapin wrote: »
    But there is a lot of urgent unfinished business to be done on the east coast of the States.

    Ah sure I'm grand. Don't worry about me !


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    That's gibberish. If you're going to try to be funny then at least get the translation right...

    Would ya f... off and relax. :rolleyes:

    Take it up with Google Translate and look for a sense of humour while you're at it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 82,752 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    meoklmrk91 wrote: »
    Massive respect for that man, respect that I don't have for many politicians, I think the world would have been in a much better state had his turn come 8 years earlier.
    Perhaps. The odd thing about 2008 was I lost all my respect for McCain. Look up John McCain vs. John McCain on youtube. it reveals all. Thing is though, McCain knew the score, was ready to concede as soon as Obama hit 270, and gave a concession speech that actually appeared like a true moment of clarity for the man, as if he was just glad to be out of the election cycle, and the pandering and the smear attacks. I don't think McCain liked the things he was having to do to try and win. He managed to redeem himself for a moment there.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 581 ✭✭✭phoenix999


    Spread wrote: »
    Fox News now shamlessly sniping at journalists. That's rich - coming from a shower that would do the National Inquirer proud.

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/11/07/five-ways-mainstream-media-tipped-scales-in-favor-obama/

    They didn't waste anytime. What ****e.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 581 ✭✭✭phoenix999


    Where the hell is Obama? I need to sleep


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    phoenix999 wrote: »
    They didn't waste anytime. What ****e.
    > Those Biased Debate Moderators

    Wow. Grasping at straws...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Gary Johnson to finish up below 1%

    Best result was in his home state of New Mexico with 3%

    I thought he would do better but still he made a decent go of it

    He's 59, he can certainly try again next time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    The difference between internal aid Republican style and Democrat style.
    Paul Krugman shows up the Republicans for their fuck ups during disasters over the years.

    Op-Ed Columnist

    Sandy Versus Katrina

    By PAUL KRUGMAN

    Published: November 4, 2012



    As Sandy barreled toward New Jersey, there were hopeful mutters on the right to the effect that it might become President Obama’s Katrina, with voters blaming him for the damage, and that this might matter on Tuesday. Sorry, guys: polls show overwhelming approval for Mr. Obama’s handling of the storm, and a significant rise in his overall favorability ratings.

    Krugman_New-articleInline.jpg
    Fred R. Conrad/The New York Times

    Paul Krugman

    And he deserves the bump. For the response to Sandy, like the success of the auto bailout, is a demonstration that Mr. Obama’s philosophy of government — which holds that the government can and should provide crucial aid in times of crisis — works. And conversely, the contrast between Sandy and Katrina demonstrates that leaders who hold government in contempt cannot provide that aid when it is needed.


    So, about that response: Much of the greater New York area (including my house) is still without power; gasoline is scarce; and some outlying areas are feeling neglected. Right-wing news media are portraying these continuing difficulties as a disaster comparable to, nay greater than, the aftermath of Katrina. But there’s really no comparison.
    I could do a point-by-point — and it’s definitely worth it, if you’re curious, to revisit the 2005 Katrina timeline to get a sense of just how bad the response really was. But for me the difference is summed up in two images. One is the nightmare at the New Orleans convention center, where thousands were stranded for days amid inconceivable squalor, an outrage that all of America watched live on TV, but to which top officials seemed oblivious. The other is the scene in flooded Hoboken, with the National Guard moving in the day after the storm struck to deliver food and water and rescue stranded residents.
    The point is that after Katrina the government seemed to have no idea what it was doing; this time it did. And that’s no accident: the federal government’s ability to respond effectively to disaster always collapses when antigovernment Republicans hold the White House, and always recovers when Democrats take it back.
    Consider, in particular, the history of the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
    Under President George H. W. Bush, FEMA became a dumping ground for unqualified political hacks. Faced with a major test in the form of Hurricane Andrew in 1992, the agency failed completely.
    Then Bill Clinton came in, put FEMA under professional management, and saw the agency’s reputation restored.
    Given this experience, you might have expected George W. Bush to preserve Mr. Clinton’s gains. But no: he appointed his campaign manager, Joe Allbaugh, to head the agency, and Mr. Allbaugh immediately signaled his intention both to devolve disaster relief to the state and local level and to downgrade the whole effort, declaring, “Expectations of when the federal government should be involved and the degree of involvement may have ballooned beyond what is an appropriate level.” After Mr. Allbaugh left for the private sector, he was replaced with Michael “heckuva job” Brown, and the rest is history.
    Like Mr. Clinton, President Obama restored FEMA’s professionalism, effectiveness, and reputation. But would Mitt Romney destroy the agency again? Yes, he would. As everyone now knows — despite the Romney campaign’s efforts to Etch A Sketch the issue away — during the primary Mr. Romney used language almost identical to Mr. Allbaugh’s, declaring that disaster relief should be turned back to the states and to the private sector.
    The best line on this, I have to admit, comes from Stephen Colbert: “Who better to respond to what’s going on inside its own borders than the state whose infrastructure has just been swept out to sea?”
    Look, Republicans love to quote Ronald Reagan’s old joke that the most dangerous words you can hear are “I’m from the government and I’m here to help.” Of course they’ll do their best, whenever they’re in power, to destroy an agency whose job is to say exactly that. And yes, it’s hypocritical that the right-wing news media are now attacking Mr. Obama for, they say, not helping enough people.
    Back to the politics. Some Republicans have already started using Sandy as an excuse for a possible Romney defeat. It’s a weak argument: state-level polls have been signaling a clear and perhaps widening Obama advantage for weeks. But as I said, to the extent that the storm helps Mr. Obama, it’s well deserved.
    The fact is that if Mr. Romney had been president these past four years the federal response to disasters of all kinds would have been far weaker than it was. There would have been no auto bailout, because Mr. Romney opposed the federal financing that was crucial to the rescue. And FEMA would have remained mired in Bush-era incompetence.
    So this storm probably won’t swing the election — but if it does, it will do so for very good reasons.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Daughter number 1 looks like she would rather be anywhere else on earth but there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Obama killing it in this acceptance speech.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    He's dragging this out.

    A bit like the Donegal captain after winning the All Ireland this year.


    I hope he doesn't burst into song.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭doomed


    MadsL wrote: »
    Obama killing it in this acceptance speech.

    Wow! You would never see a speech like that from an Irish Politician.
    Almost makes you want to be an American.


  • Registered Users Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Sappa


    Great news Obama gets another term.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,127 ✭✭✭✭kerry4sam


    President Obama always speaks with immense pride, enthusiasm, and sincerity, and damn him! but he always brings a tear to my eye :o

    Delighted for President Obama and Vice-President Biden :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 930 ✭✭✭poeticseraphim


    Awesome speech......awh you gotta love ya some America...love it when we all wake up in the morning and president Obama is president of the united states of America :-)!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    So who's gonna run for 2016? :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    I tell ya, whoever wrote that speech deserves a raise. It was brilliant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    meoklmrk91 wrote: »
    So who's gonna run for 2016? :P

    Palin. She wont go away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭ITS_A_BADGER


    meoklmrk91 wrote: »
    So who's gonna run for 2016? :P

    you can bet your britches Mitt romneys gonna run again, his concession speech to me seemed like he was buttering up america for a return


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    What was that song they were playing a few minutes ago.

    Woke up, switched on the TV and saw Romney hugging people with the caption saying "Romney 53% - Obama 47%"

    Genuinely thought for a moment that Romney had won it, but they were just showing the caption for one of the states. PHEW!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    you can bet your britches Mitt romneys gonna run again, his concession speech to me seemed like he was buttering up america for a return

    For the Democrat nomination? See Mitt. See Mitt Flip Flop .


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