Will Obama Go Down As The Greatest US President Ever??

geetar

Underpaid Mike wrote: »

Your post is exactly why he is a joke of a president, the colour of his skin should be irrelevant, show me a single achievement he has had in 4 years?
Nobel prize after 4 weeks in office was simple pandering before you try and say it.

the nobel prize isnt something that democrats even mention, so why are you bringing it up? the whole world was a bit wierded out by it, and nobody claims it to be one of Obamas great accomplishments.

scroll through this website for a while. the man has done an awful lot.

http://whatthe****hasobamadonesofar.com/

edit: youll have to replace the **** with fuck


history was made because he was the first black president, but your using that very fact to condemn his actual achievements during his presidency. he has done more then George Bush, more then what John McCain would have, and hopefully will be allowed do more then Romney ever could.

El Tarangu

Fishooks12 wrote: »

Idiotic post

What of Bill Clinton? A brilliant economic mind and the first American president to balance the budget for decades

He also had the highest approval rating of any president leaving office since they began taking poll data

And no (major) foreign wars on his watch.

And RTDH - would you ever cop on to yourself?

Underpaid Mike

The only things i can think of that he has done of note in his presidency are
1) kill bin laden
2) obamacare

#2 is a disaster and will have to be repealed because a broke country cannot finance universal healthcare. Its simple economics
#1 was the result of a war he criticised on a number of occasions

So what exactly has he done, i mean hard facts here?
And this is not a democrat vs republican thing, im a huge clinton fan for all his faults

Educate yourself, the president of the USA shouldnt be know for his likeable personality and endorsements from celebs, it should because of his actions and what he has contributed. Says a lot that he is about to be relected, reminds me of bertie ahearn in this joke of a country. Everybody loved him at the time too

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanhorn/2012/06/05/obama-runs-from-his-failed-presidency-as-fast-as-he-can/

Rhyme

Cybercubed wrote: »

But its hardly a ringing endorsement to lose the popular vote to someone like Mitt Romney if you're going to be one of the greatest presidents ever!

That doesn't stain the quality of Obama's term in my opinion. A large part of America is incapable of self-rule.

The_Kew_Tour

Clinton was a great President.

When he went into doing something(like troubles in North) he got it done proper.

Would love to have been a fly in the room when he had that meeting with Gerry Adams. because whatever he said Adams was totally different man after it.

Turtyturd

Has anyone said no yet?

geetar

Underpaid Mike wrote: »

14.7% of the US population are unemployed
Granted there is a global recession but the economy isnt exactly something he should be proud of now is it?
And dont say someone else would not have done better, thats conjecture.
Fact is 14.7% of the total country are out of work which is shocking

i dont know where youre getting that figure from.

its actually 7.9% at the moment, and that is adjusted to ignore the seasonal spike in jobs.

http://www.wbir.com/news/article/240296/16/171000-jobs-added-in-Oct-unemployment-rate-79

theres a nice graph here showing the steady decline in employment

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate

Underpaid Mike

Look up U6 and U3 employment like a good lad.
Come back when you know what you are talking about.
True unemployment rate in the US is 14.7%

Edit to attach a nice graph of what impact he has had on unemployment
http://portalseven.com/employment/unemployment_rate_u6.jsp

geetar

Underpaid Mike wrote: »

Look up U6 and U3 employment like a good lad.
Come back when you know what you are talking about.
True unemployment rate in the US is 14.7%

Edit to attach a nice graph of what impact he has had on unemployment
http://portalseven.com/employment/unemployment_rate_u6.jsp

ah nice one, trying to be condescending always make you look smart.


the U6 isnt true unemployment, that's misleading beause it also takes people who arent actively looking for work, but are in the work force into account.

either way you look at it both figures are on the decline. and FYI, your U6 value is now 14.6%

and its a bit ignorant to post a graph which peaks due to things out of obamas control.

the graph i posted was showing obamas plan coming into action, and working. the first 2 years of unemployment growth was a hangover of the bush administration and the economic crisis, both things out of the presidents control.

with all your criticisms of obama, could you enlighten us all how you would have done things differently, or been in any way more effective?

do you honestly support Romney's economic plan? because if you do, i highly doubt you have any credible economic insight into this discussion

Underpaid Mike

geetar wrote: »

ah nice one, trying to be condescending always make you look smart.


the U6 isnt true unemployment, that's misleading beause it also takes people who arent actively looking for work, but are in the work force into account.

either way you look at it both figures are on the decline. and FYI, your U6 value is now 14.6%

and its a bit ignorant to post a graph which peaks due to things out of obamas control.

the graph i posted was showing obamas plan coming into action, and working. the first 2 years of unemployment growth was a hangover of the bush administration and the economic crisis, both things out of the presidents control.

with all your criticisms of obama, could you enlighten us all how you would have done things differently, or been in any way more effective?

do you honestly support Romney's economic plan? because if you do, i highly doubt you have any credible economic insight into this discussion

The Bureau of Labor Statistics also calculates six alternate measures of unemployment, U1 through U6, that measure different aspects of unemployment:[41]
U1:[42] Percentage of labor force unemployed 15 weeks or longer.
U2: Percentage of labor force who lost jobs or completed temporary work.
U3: Official unemployment rate per the ILO definition occurs when people are without jobs and they have actively looked for work within the past four weeks.[1]
U4: U3 + "discouraged workers", or those who have stopped looking for work because current economic conditions make them believe that no work is available for them.
U5: U4 + other "marginally attached workers", or "loosely attached workers", or those who "would like" and are able to work, but have not looked for work recently.
U6: U5 + Part-time workers who want to work full-time, but cannot due to economic reasons


Can you explain to me why the unemployment rate is not U6 exactly?
Our unemployment rate is calculated using the U6 measurement here in Ireland
Also how exactly does a country with close to 5 trillion in debt finance another stimulus package, hire new teachers, continue to rapidly expand its government and finance universal healthcare?
To me those are the "achievements" of Obama. Socialist policies in the most capitalist country on earth. Baffling

Conas

If everyone around the world had a chance to vote in this election Obama would stroll back in. Mainly because Romney doesn't seem to like anyone

Russia, China, Cuba, Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan. That list will probaly grow too. Republicans seem to hate everyone in the world.

I'm sure Vladimir Putin is excited about the thoughts of macho man Romney showing him a little more backbone should he be elected.

IvySlayer

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Clinton was a great President.

Clinton handled the economy very well, aswell as having extremely low unemployment! He actually worked with the Republicans instead of blaming them, unlike Obama.

Ghost Buster

Didnt Monica Lewinski go down on the greatest President in US history?

desertcircus

Underpaid Mike wrote: »

The only things i can think of that he has done of note in his presidency are
1) kill bin laden
2) obamacare

#2 is a disaster and will have to be repealed because a broke country cannot finance universal healthcare. Its simple economics
#1 was the result of a war he criticised on a number of occasions

So what exactly has he done, i mean hard facts here?
And this is not a democrat vs republican thing, im a huge clinton fan for all his faults

Educate yourself, the president of the USA shouldnt be know for his likeable personality and endorsements from celebs, it should because of his actions and what he has contributed. Says a lot that he is about to be relected, reminds me of bertie ahearn in this joke of a country. Everybody loved him at the time too

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanhorn/2012/06/05/obama-runs-from-his-failed-presidency-as-fast-as-he-can/

Given that the UK spends a smaller proportion of its GDP on providing free universal healthcare than the US does n currently not providing it, it's manifestly not simple economics.

Latchy

No ...

The speech's JFK gave during his presidency were of a great man who knew his history, did his homework and put his views and beliefs across to the American people and the world in general in a manner like no other .

mike65

He hasn't been very good but nor have the circumstances, worst downturn since the depression then the GOP takes control of congress after 2 years. It really is just the stupidest system they have. I know why it happened but its not 1776 and hasn't been for a while now.

Conas

Exactly Congress have given Obama a horrid time. All Republicans sing off the same hymn sheet, and put the party before the people. I think Obama is going to have a horrid next four years even if he wins. Republicans are nuts!!!