gaming rig build advice needed

colm102

Hey guys im looking for some advice and builds from you guys for a gaming pc.Please keep it in the 1000 budget thanks guys all help/advice and builds welcome.

1. What is your budget? [€1000]

2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? [Gaming/light editing]

3. Do you need a copy of Windows? [yes]

4. Can you use any parts from an old computer? [No]

5. Do you need a monitor? [yes]
5a. If yes, what size do you need. [21]

6. Do you need any of these peripherals? [no]

7. Are you willing to try overclocking? [yes]

8. How can you pay? [Any]

9. When are you purchasing? [Within next 2 weeks]

as many build as possible please

marco_polo

This would be a pretty decent gaming build, and supports a bit of overclocking. Somes to just under the grand all in (bar KB+M)

Item|Price
BitFenix Merc|€32,20
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W|€43,32
ASRock Z77 Pro3|€86.09
Intel Core i5-3570K|€208.05
8GB-Kit G.Skill RipJaws PC3-8500U |€32.54
PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB|€179.53
Samsung SSD 830 128GB|€87.56
WD Caviar Blue 1TB |€68.71
ASUS DRW-24B5ST|€20.20
ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 13 Pro|28.60
Acer G226HQLBBD|€109.00
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit|€82.35
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€997,14

colm102

Thanks for that.Now is that the best for money if so i might pull the trigger on this ill just wait to see what other people think.One other thing do i need any cables ect or do they all come with it and how long is the shipping from this site.

Monotype

I'd get faster RAM. 1600MHz is just €2 more.
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/1600+Low+Voltage/44321/8GB-Kit+G.Skill+RipJaws-X+PC3-12800U+CL9.article

Maybe squeeze the extra few cents for this monitor, I think.
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=60167

Looks grand apart from that.

colm102

Monotype wrote: »

I'd get faster RAM. 1600MHz is just €2 more.
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/1600+Low+Voltage/44321/8GB-Kit+G.Skill+RipJaws-X+PC3-12800U+CL9.article

Maybe squeeze the extra few cents for this monitor, I think.
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=60167

Looks grand apart from that.

Yes the monitor looks fine is the ram worth it speed wise.Also can you put this together in a build so I can see the final price.Thanks

Monotype

Just put all the items in your cart and you'll see the total.

colm102

Thanks yes that is grand just 1005 euro also are you the company able to put the computer together if so how much is it? Also do you know how long is there shipping?

Monotype

They'll put it together for €20.
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/Service/746/Rechner+-+Zusammenbau.article

They might not put in the graphics card or the heatsink if they think it would get damaged in shipping.
Shipping is typically 1.5-2 weeks. Build time could be a bit longer. Their main way of paying is bank transfer so it can take a little longer the first time buying with them (i.e., 3 days to process the payment so it would really be the full two weeks).

colm102

Monotype wrote: »

They'll put it together for €20.
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/Service/746/Rechner+-+Zusammenbau.article

They might not put in the graphics card or the heatsink if they think it would get damaged in shipping.
Shipping is typically 1.5-2 weeks. Build time could be a bit longer. Their main way of paying is bank transfer so it can take a little longer the first time buying with them (i.e., 3 days to process the payment so it would really be the full two weeks).

Yah thats grand id be willin 2 pay the 20 extra so ill just have to install graphics card and heatsink no bother also do they install the programmes for everything part they put in ? Also do I need any other cables,glue ect ?

Monotype

They don't install for the 20. You might need an extra Sata cable. I'll link tomorrow if you can't find one. You will also need a kettle type lead that you get with most computers.

colm102

ok may install myself den haha yes plz link it btw thanks for all d help

marco_polo

Nice call mono, no idea there were IPS panels going for a mere 115.

Monotype

Here's an SATA cable:

http://www2.hardwareversand.de/S-ATA/40328/LogiLink+SATA+0.3m+Kabel+mit+Sicherungslasche.article

There's dearer ones with angled tops and fancier latches, but that should do fine.

Edit: You'll also need an English install disc for Windows. Details of how to get this is in the Windows guide in my signature.

colm102

ok thanks for that is that all i need now so if i order that now i shud b ok.also what do mean about being in your signature ?

colm102

Monotype wrote: »

Here's an SATA cable:

http://www2.hardwareversand.de/S-ATA/40328/LogiLink+SATA+0.3m+Kabel+mit+Sicherungslasche.article

There's dearer ones with angled tops and fancier latches, but that should do fine.

Edit: You'll also need an English install disc for Windows. Details of how to get this is in the Windows guide in my signature.

what do you mean by details of how to get is in the windos guide in your signature?

Monotype

My signature is the writing underneath my post. If you have signatures disabled, you can enable them here:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/profile.php?do=editoptions

Go down to the third main box, "Thread Display Options" and tick the box for "Show Signatures". Then scroll to the bottom and hit save changes.

The guide I was talking about it this one here. When you buy your German key, you can use it with an English copy of Windows.

Edit: I think that's everything that you need, by the way, apart from some patience with a new build.

colm102

Monotype wrote: »

My signature is the writing underneath my post. If you have signatures disabled, you can enable them here:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/profile.php?do=editoptions

Go down to the third main box, "Thread Display Options" and tick the box for "Show Signatures". Then scroll to the bottom and hit save changes.

The guide I was talking about it this one here. When you buy your German key, you can use it with an English copy of Windows.

Edit: I think that's everything that you need, by the way, apart from some patience with a new build.

thanks for that so im good to go ? haha ill need alot of patience thanks for everything ill be ordering around 2 weeks and post up a pic of the hopefully finished (not fried ) gaming pc thanks again

colm102

would it be better to go for a 600w power supply ? and sound card ? would this be better http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30074&agid=1627

Monotype

450W is enough, even if you overclock. Maybe 550W if you planned to do a lot of expansions like a stack of hard drives. Going above that is unnecessary unless you want to have more than one graphics card.

colm102

Theres been a change of build ive had some advice from a very very experienced friend he advised me on this what do you think http://www1.hardwareversand.de/basket.jsp

and can you tell me if that motherboard has bluetooth,sound card and wireless card ?

Monotype

I can't see your basket. You have to link the individual items or use Fluffy's script. Here's Fluffy's script.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=72858800

colm102

power supply : http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30069&agid=1628

motherboard:http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=57456&agid=1601

graphics card : http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=66275&agid=1156

solid state drive :http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=56866&agid=1145

ram:http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=44316&agid=1205

processor:http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=56296&agid=1617

case:http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50576&agid=631

monitor :http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=65690&agid=1648

cd drive :http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=59406&agid=699

cooler :http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=49255&agid=669

dont need windows now gettin windows ultimate edition for free from my fried

WAT do u think

also does that motherboard have bluetooth soundcard and wireless card

Monotype

Looks like it has wireless alright. b, g and n. It's kind of expensive for a motherboard. I mean, you're paying €50 just for wireless? Well there's extras like multiple graphics cards, but I don't know if you'd use that.
I don't see bluetooth. Sound is integrated, yes.

Anyway, wireless on a desktop is inferior to homeplugs:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-PA411KIT-AV500-Powerline-Adapter/dp/B0084Y9N3O/

The GTX 660 used to be a bit better than the 7850, but some drivers that were released recently, really gave the AMD cards a boost, so they could be nearly equal. The 7850 is also a good bit cheaper.

RAM is slow. See my first post in this thread for recommendation. Also grab the monitor too; it's quite a good one.

If you have a bit of extra money, perhaps a nicer case would be a good investment? The Bitfenix Shinobi is a good option from the same maker, Bitfenix. There's plenty of others on there that may take your fancy.

colm102

Monotype wrote: »

Looks like it has wireless alright. b, g and n. It's kind of expensive for a motherboard. I mean, you're paying €50 just for wireless? Well there's extras like multiple graphics cards, but I don't know if you'd use that.
I don't see bluetooth. Sound is integrated, yes.

Anyway, wireless on a desktop is inferior to homeplugs:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-PA411KIT-AV500-Powerline-Adapter/dp/B0084Y9N3O/

The GTX 660 used to be a bit better than the 7850, but some drivers that were released recently, really gave the AMD cards a boost, so they could be nearly equal. The 7850 is also a good bit cheaper.

RAM is slow. See my first post in this thread for recommendation. Also grab the monitor too; it's quite a good one.

If you have a bit of extra money, perhaps a nicer case would be a good investment? The Bitfenix Shinobi is a good option from the same maker, Bitfenix. There's plenty of others on there that may take your fancy.

watche mean wirelesd is inferior to homeplug and cud u recommend a motherboard wit wireless bluetooth and soundcard

Monotype

I mean wireless doesn't offer a consistent connection and the lag can make it really unsuitable for games or even streaming media.

You'd be just as well off getting the bluetooth and wireless cards by themselves.

E.g., http://www2.hardwareversand.de/Bluetooth/43734/LogiLink+Adapter+USB+2.0+to+Bluetooth+V2.1+EDR+Nano+(BT0013).article
and
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/PCI-Express/48078/ASUS+PCE-N10.article

colm102

so if i buy i buy the origanl motherboard and add d bluetooth and wireless it would be better and cheaper? i assume the original motherboard obviously has sound interegated.

Monotype

Yeah, it would work out cheaper. Wireless for desktops is not really that common and it's only a feature they throw in when they've done everything else.

If you wanted just a few extra features on the motherboard, I'd go for something like the G45 from MSI.
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/DDR3/57133/MSI+Z77A-G45%2C+Intel+Z77%2C+ATX%2C+DDR3.article

If you wanted to spend more, it should be because you need a specific feature. For example, firewire, eSATA or mSATA.

colm102

so what do most of you use instead of wirless ? adapters ? so that motherboard has bluetooth and wireless and some extras ?

Monotype

No, that motherboard hasn't got bluetooth or wireless. I'm just suggesting it as an alternative as it has a few extra connectors that the original didn't have and it's not much dearer. You don't get wireless except in the top end boards. It's not popular in desktops.

Proper ethernet wiring will get you the fastest, most stable connection. Then there's homeplugs which are not quite as good, but it's an easy solution. Finally, there's wireless. Handy for a laptop that you're moving around constantly but for a desktop, you really should be looking at better. Especially since desktops are on much longer and that's a lot of high frequency radiation being broadcast around unnecessarily on a lengthy basis.

colm102

how much would the ethernet cables be ? so you wud advise to just get the bluetooth ( i kinda need it) and leave the wireless ?

Monotype

Yeah, the bluetooth can be handy for phones. Even just to plug it in when you need it. I'd consider homeplugs definitely before wireless, unless there's some reason why you can't use them - e.g., student campus accommodation, getting wireless from a different building etc. For a typical house or appartment, they'd be one of the better solutions.

Proper wiring depends on how far you are from the router. If you're not too far, it's easy enough. You just get a cable and you're done.

You can get 20 or 30 metre ones for about €15. If you are right next to the router, a 5 metre or less one would do fine.
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/165/Network.search

If it's very far away, you start needing repeaters and you'd be best to lay down your own cabling.