Waterford Airport.

notharrypotter · 14-10-2015 9:35pm

questionmark? wrote: »

Can you provide a direct link to that please?

I had a look at the Irish Avaiton Authority's website and I can't see where to get figures for Waterford.

CAA is the UK Civil Aviation Authority.

IAA is the Irish Aviation Authority and does not do passenger statistics.

On mobile will get link later.

Dozen Wicked Words · 14-10-2015 9:42pm

My dad flew back to UK from Waterford last weekend, very impressed with it all. Ideal for him as his mobility is severely limited now. Assistance was a bit ad hoc but much friendlier than assistance in UK.

Plane showed it's age he said but very pleasant flight and he also appreciated the cup of tea and pastry on board. If his health lasts enough to come over again he said he'd definitely fly into Waterford instead of Dublin.

Fingers crossed for the people of Waterford and the South East the airport is a long term success.

Johnnyvegas2 · 15-10-2015 6:23pm

25 out this morning, 35 on the way back. Numbers haven't been great last couple of weeks though so hopefully people of Waterford/South East get behind it and continue to use the service.

Plane Fan · 15-10-2015 9:04pm

Johnnyvegas2 wrote: »

25 out this morning, 35 on the way back. Numbers haven't been great last couple of weeks though so hopefully people of Waterford/South East get behind it and continue to use the service.

33 pax on tonight's inbound from LTN

notharrypotter · 15-10-2015 10:16pm

UK August CAA passenger statistics.

To find the September version goggle "uk caa september traffic statistics"

Jamie2k9 · 15-10-2015 10:50pm

Those loads are not terrible and fairly decent.

dzilla · 16-10-2015 10:10am

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Those loads are not terrible and fairly decent.

Any idea what the break even on a Fokker 50 is? I have read 1/4 of capacity on some guides. They are cheap to run and maintain so a midweek flight with 25 - 40 people on it would not be bad.

The Sukhoi jets VLM want to buy are in profit after 50 seats are filled I think

wellboytoo · 16-10-2015 2:41pm

35 + on this mornings flight out to LTN

Jamie2k9 · 16-10-2015 4:05pm

dzilla wrote: »

Any idea what the break even on a Fokker 50 is? I have read 1/4 of capacity on some guides. They are cheap to run and maintain so a midweek flight with 25 - 40 people on it would not be bad.

The Sukhoi jets VLM want to buy are in profit after 50 seats are filled I think

14 would see around right, If I remember the ATR72s required 24/72 to break even. The fares see good as well so it should be fine.

35/50 is decent and I think they will be happy if they get that or above on all flights.

Jamie2k9 · 16-10-2015 4:11pm

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Auguat saw BHX lf of 64.4% and LTN lf of 72%.

September saw BHX lf 44.7% of and LTN lf of 55%

LTN drop expected as would BHX but not quiet as bad as 44%

hardybuck · 16-10-2015 4:25pm

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

September saw BHX lf 44.7% of and LTN lf of 65.4%

LTN drop expected as would BHX but not quiet as bad as 44%

To compound matters August 2015 had passenger traffic of roughly 45% of the August 2014 total.

hardybuck · 16-10-2015 4:26pm

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

September saw BHX lf 44.7% of and LTN lf of 65.4%

LTN drop expected as would BHX but not quiet as bad as 44%

To compound matters BHX August 2015 had passenger traffic of roughly 45% of the August 2014 total.

BadCharlie · 19-10-2015 3:59pm

Went on the 8th Of October about 26 heads "Thursday flight"
Came back on sunday night 11th of October About 30 heads.

dzilla · 19-10-2015 10:23pm

BadCharlie wrote: »

Went on the 8th Of October about 26 heads "Thursday flight"
Came back on sunday night 11th of October About 30 heads.

Ah sure. Bitta comfort

b757 · 02-11-2015 2:35pm

Flights to LTN and BHX available up until 27-Oct-2016.

http://flyvlm.com/

Johnnyvegas2 · 18-11-2015 12:45am

From waterford airport website - a good idea.

A new 'Pro Pass' programme from VLM Airlines now offers frequent flyers on the Waterford-Luton and Waterford-Birmingham services great value return fares of under €150.

A set of vouchers for six return flights on the popular routes can now be purchased for €898 with the flight vouchers valid for use over a six-month period.

questionmark? · 18-11-2015 2:38pm

Johnnyvegas2 wrote: »

From waterford airport website - a good idea.

A new 'Pro Pass' programme from VLM Airlines now offers frequent flyers on the Waterford-Luton and Waterford-Birmingham services great value return fares of under €150.

A set of vouchers for six return flights on the popular routes can now be purchased for €898 with the flight vouchers valid for use over a six-month period.

Good idea for businesses. Last minute return flights for €150 will keep the accounts department happy!

b757 · 19-11-2015 4:11pm

Oct '15

WAT BHX - 841 50% LF
WAT-LTN - 3102 59% LF

hardybuck · 24-11-2015 11:40am

It may have been mentioned here, but I'm not sure, but the new Secretary General for the Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport is a Waterford man and the former CEO of Waterford Airport - Graham Doyle.

dzilla · 24-11-2015 2:44pm

hardybuck wrote: »

It may have been mentioned here, but I'm not sure, but the new Secretary General for the Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport is a Waterford man and the former CEO of Waterford Airport - Graham Doyle.

Don't know him personally but always felt he did great work as the Airport CEO.

hardybuck · 24-11-2015 3:18pm

dzilla wrote: »

Don't know him personally but always felt he did great work as the Airport CEO.

He now has a position of great influence...

dzilla · 24-11-2015 3:22pm

hardybuck wrote: »

He now has a position of great influence...

He was kind of working with his hand tied behind his back I suppose considering runway length. Flybe where a massive coup to get them in when he did. Big airline with big route network, would love to see them back but they have bigger fish to fry it would appear!

notharrypotter · 24-11-2015 5:54pm

hardybuck wrote: »

He now has a position of great influence...

parish pump policies, will we ever learn?

hardybuck · 24-11-2015 6:11pm

notharrypotter wrote: »

parish pump policies, will we ever learn?

Well this is not the politics forum, but how many people vote for their local candidate with a view to the national picture?

Also, the art of lobbying is massive in decision making. Waterford Airport and the huge number of different interest groups who need decision would be in to Government Depts. like Finance, DPER, Transport etc. looking to influence policy.

If you've someone who's already familiar and possibly positive towards your cause and from your area, you're lobbying effort might be a little easier.

dzilla · 25-11-2015 7:35pm

The way of the world

notharrypotter · 25-11-2015 8:06pm

hardybuck wrote: »

Well this is not the politics forum, but how many people vote for their local candidate with a view to the national picture?

Also, the art of lobbying is massive in decision making. Waterford Airport and the huge number of different interest groups who need decision would be in to Government Depts. like Finance, DPER, Transport etc. looking to influence policy.

If you've someone who's already familiar and possibly positive towards your cause and from your area, you're lobbying effort might be a little easier.

and

Secretary General for the Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport

Are incompatible positions.

Granted lobying is to be expected from local politico's to the relevant minister.

The Secretary general of any department is supposed to put the big picture first.

They are not elected but are supposedly selected as the best person for the role.

If any senior civil servant started to give preferential treatment to one group then they should go.

They are there to represent ALL our interests and act as a break to some of our typical ministerial "pet projects".

hardybuck · 25-11-2015 10:41pm

notharrypotter wrote: »

and
Are incompatible positions.

Granted lobying is to be expected from local politico's to the relevant minister.

The Secretary general of any department is supposed to put the big picture first.

They are not elected but are supposedly selected as the best person for the role.

If any senior civil servant started to give preferential treatment to one group then they should go.

They are there to represent ALL our interests and act as a break to some of our typical ministerial "pet projects".

You'll find that senior civil servants are humans and have opinions.

Furthermore, ministerial 'pet projects', or Government Policy as it's sometimes called, will be presented to civil servants who then figure out the details.

tankbarry · 26-11-2015 12:58pm

26 MILLION NO MILLION. that's the only thing Graham Doyle will be remembered for

Plane Fan · 03-12-2015 12:14am

Are VLM going to expand for Summer 2016 does anybody know or will it remain at just LTN & BHX?

questionmark? · 08-12-2015 3:07pm

Plane Fan wrote: »

Are VLM going to expand for Summer 2016 does anybody know or will it remain at just LTN & BHX?

Building the sustainability of the current routes and then we may see Manchester back as it's the next obvious route.

Waterford Airport.

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