You dirty robbing b##stard!!!

Esel

Not Bag-o-nails-town?

Funny, until this thread I thought it was spelled Bagnalstown. Interesting that, according to Wikipedia, Muine Bheag has a BP Scout Group. I thought the SAI (i.e. BP) and CBSI merged a good few years ago. Maybe there is a throwback thing going on? www.scouts.ie shows it as "2nd Carlow - Idrone".

PickledLime

green123 wrote: »

it is this kind of soft attitude that is the reason that people make so many mistakes.

nobody is ever to blame for anything and nobody is ever at fault and so they just keep making silly mistakes because there are no consequences.

people need to start taking more care and taking responsibility for their own actions

Crikey. Good to see the spirit of human kindness is alive and well on boards.

Of course the OP made a foolish mistake leaving the wallet down. I'm also going to guess that seeing as the OP has kids to feed, he's clocked up his fair share of employment over the years and contributed to the State, and therefore the social welfare of others via his own taxes. What's wrong in asking to get dug out of a bind from a system that you've contributed to?

I think you'd be pretty swift to reach out if your kids were left sick from hunger because of an opportunistic scumbag.

Amalgam

Lumbo wrote: »

Libraries are full of trained scum's children these days. They use it as a free baby sitting service when they go shopping.

A man with red hair, that visited the Ilac Centre Library (Dublin) a few years back, would send their baby daughter under the tables, crawling on all fours, soother in mouth, quietly rifling through student bags, stashed by their feet.

Libraries are full of dedicated and/or opportunistic dippers, not the best place to leave something alone.

Del2005

queen of Umaill wrote: »

He will be able to get proof from Garda when they view cctv and get a letter i am sure they will speed it up as it is their food and heat and living we are discussing.If not then again seriously sick country we are living in.

The camera may show his wallet being taken. Where's the proof there was anything in it?

racso1975

Del2005 wrote: »

The camera may show his wallet being taken. Where's the proof there was anything in it?

Wallet was not taken. Money was taken out of the wallet.

pickarooney

racso1975 wrote: »

Bagenalstown library.

This would never have happened in Mrs. Mahon's day.

confuseddotcom

Spook_ie wrote: »

Who in their right mind leaves a wallet unattended?

A wallet or money can get stolen in many ways attended or un-attended including being taken from somebody's person. They could easily have just been standing there and had the wallet swiped from their pocket or bag or something like that, but it's hardly the point. O.p. I hope the thief is caught and made to pay you back every single cent.

goodie2shoes

Hopefully this guy will turn over a new leaf before he gets caught.

I bet the Guard that arrests him will have to say "Book him! Dano"

Sorry couldn't resist.:D

goodie2shoes

i wonder will they 'er read him the book of evidence?

Laneyh

Sorry your money was stolen and that when you decided to vent on here you were met with smart arse remarks. Hopefully some good karma comes your way

Skid

aaronjumper wrote: »

Bagenalstown - How do you pronounce that?

Mwe-ne-veg

goodie2shoes

you were a little naive to leave your wallet unattended, but then again the thief probably read your intentions. LOL.:D

Agent Smith

Keith186 wrote: »

Moral of the story is always turn your phone off in the library!

I like to read that as the father from Arrested Development :pac:

Wacker The Attacker

racso1975 wrote: »

Just had my wallet emptied by some ****in ****e bag while in the local library. Had stepped away to photocopy something and phone went off and stepped outside for 2 min.

Just in case you are reading this you c#@t that money was my social welfare payment that me and family need. I hope to god you get the fukin karma you deserve

You are equally culpable. Leaving youre wallet out of your sight was a stupid thing to do and you were as good as asking for it to be robbed.

Topper Harley

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

You are equally culpable. Leaving youre wallet out of your sight was a stupid thing to do and you were as good as asking for it to be robbed.

Of the two parties involved, one was naive and made a mistake, the other was a thief who committed a crime. The OP is a victim here and while he didn't help himself, to describe him as equally culpable and asking for his wallet to be robbed is unfair. People are not obligated to rob just because the opportunity presents itself.

If you're walking by a house with a window open, that you could easily climb through, could you convince yourself that you are only half to blame for breaking in and helping yourself to anything you like. of course not. And likewise, just because a wallet was left unattended does not exonerate the thief from part of the blame.

Would people be more sympathetic towards the OP if he had dropped his wallet accidentally only to later find it emptied?

Spook_ie

Topper Harley wrote: »

Of the two parties involved, one was naive and made a mistake, the other was a thief who committed a crime. The OP is a victim here and while he didn't help himself, to describe him as equally culpable and asking for his wallet to be robbed is unfair. People are not obligated to rob just because the opportunity presents itself.

If you're walking by a house with a window open, that you could easily climb through, could you convince yourself that you are only half to blame for breaking in and helping yourself to anything you like. of course not. And likewise, just because a wallet was left unattended does not exonerate the thief from part of the blame.

Would people be more sympathetic towards the OP if he had dropped his wallet accidentally only to later find it emptied?

Probably, BUT he didn't he left it "unattended" while he went to answer the phone.

Del2005

Topper Harley wrote: »

If you're walking by a house with a window open, that you could easily climb through, could you convince yourself that you are only half to blame for breaking in and helping yourself to anything you like. of course not. And likewise, just because a wallet was left unattended does not exonerate the thief from part of the blame.

A lot of thefts are done from occupied houses. The majority of people won't jump through the window but scumbag thiefs will. By leaving the window open you've made their "job" easier. Unfortunately the days of leaving open windows unattended are long gone. From a quick Google it appears insurance companies aren't too fast on paying out for non forced entry, the act of leaving your wallet unattended is the same.

Topper Harley

Del2005 wrote: »

A lot of thefts are done from occupied houses. The majority of people won't jump through the window but scumbag thiefs will. By leaving the window open you've made their "job" easier. Unfortunately the days of leaving open windows unattended are long gone. From a quick Google it appears insurance companies aren't too fast on paying out for non forced entry, the act of leaving your wallet unattended is the same.

One of those Google links you provided explained it well in that people have a duty to protect their insured belongings. And I suppose you can expand this to include all your belongings, but surely you, me and everyone else (especially thieves) have a greater duty not to steal from people.

Yes, the OP was responsible for not taking enough care, but the thief is the one who committed a crime. People shouldn't loose sight of that when blaming the OP. Naivety aside, the OP was entitled to leave his wallet temporarily unattended and not have it robbed, the thief was not entitled to rob the wallet just because he could. And so, I place most, if not all, the blame on the thief.

Spook_ie wrote: »

Probably, BUT he didn't he left it "unattended" while he went to answer the phone.

And if it had been dropped accidentally, it would also have been unattended while he went to answer the phone. But that doesn't make it any less wrong for the thief to help themselves to his money.

Spook_ie

Topper Harley wrote: »

One of those Google links you provided explained it well in that people have a duty to protect their insured belongings. And I suppose you can expand this to include all your belongings, but surely you, me and everyone else (especially thieves) have a greater duty not to steal from people.

Yes, the OP was responsible for not taking enough care, but the thief is the one who committed a crime. People shouldn't loose sight of that when blaming the OP. Naivety aside, the OP was entitled to leave his wallet temporarily unattended and not have it robbed, the thief was not entitled to rob the wallet just because he could. And so, I place most, if not all, the blame on the thief.


And if it had been dropped accidentally, it would also have been unattended while he went to answer the phone. But that doesn't make it any less wrong for the thief to help themselves to his money.

#
Actually no it wouldn't have been unattended it would have been LOST as in " **** I lost my wallet " rather than " **** I left my wallet on that table in the library "

Wacker The Attacker

Topper Harley wrote: »

Of the two parties involved, one was naive and made a mistake, the other was a thief who committed a crime. The OP is a victim here and while he didn't help himself, to describe him as equally culpable and asking for his wallet to be robbed is unfair. People are not obligated to rob just because the opportunity presents itself.

If you're walking by a house with a window open, that you could easily climb through, could you convince yourself that you are only half to blame for breaking in and helping yourself to anything you like. of course not. And likewise, just because a wallet was left unattended does not exonerate the thief from part of the blame.

Would people be more sympathetic towards the OP if he had dropped his wallet accidentally only to later find it emptied?

Crimes of this nature are almost entirely opportunistic. Give a thief like this an opportunity and they'll take it most times.

In an ideal world we'd be able to leave our stuff unprotected in a public place but we dont live in an ideal world.

OldNotWIse

My name is URL wrote: »

Scumbags in libraries now? Is there no sanctuary?!

Though I suspect reading is last on their list :rolleyes:

OldNotWIse

Del2005 wrote: »

I've no problem with them getting a sub, but if they don't have to pay it back I have a serious problem with them getting anything off the SW to replace money that they left unattended.



You've no idea what my financial situation is. If the only money I had to feed my family was in my wallet, I'd make damn sure not to leave it where someone has the opportunity to steal it. I keep my wallet secured at all times if there's money in it or not.

You're right of course, OP's family should go hungry to attone for his sin of naivety

goodie2shoes

it's good to see we are raising a better educated well read type of thief nowadays.
it's such a welcome change from the knife-wielding "give us yer money!" type of thug so reminiscent of the '80s.

all that taxpayers money spent on free education is paying dividends i see ........:D

Topper Harley

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

Crimes of this nature are almost entirely opportunistic. Give a thief like this an opportunity and they'll take it most times.

In an ideal world we'd be able to leave our stuff unprotected in a public place but we dont live in an ideal world.

True, but that doesn't remove any of the blame from the culprit. He's still the guilty one here, in my book, and not the OP.

Spook_ie wrote: »

#
Actually no it wouldn't have been unattended it would have been LOST as in " **** I lost my wallet " rather than " **** I left my wallet on that table in the library "

You're arguing over semantics now. Surely if it's been dropped on the ground and lost, it's unattended until someone finds it. But that's irrelevant, the point is, it doesn't excuse the thief, he's still the guilty party.

Red21

Spook_ie wrote: »

Who in their right mind leaves a wallet unattended?

Who leaves their passport at home when going for a flight?
Who tips their car of a parked car?
Who leaves their passcard/cash in the Atm?
Who leaves their keys at the checkout in tesco?
Who loses their wedding ring?
Who leaves their jacket at a bar/nightclub?
The list goes on and on and eventually you'll have everybody included, because from time to time we all do stuff thats really stupid and outta character, the OP could've been carrying a wallet for 20 years without any incident, but on the internet you'll still get people only too eager to stick the knief in at any oppurtunity they'll find.
I'm not just talking about this post because there has been far worse than this said, i'm talking about the 230+ thanks it has recieved. It's not an AH thing nor is it a Boards.ie thing, it's an internet thing how so many people are willing to be a cxxt a the drop of a hat.
If I oor you met someone who had the misfortune of having this happen them, i'd try help them and id sympathise with them, but here's the thing, I believe that the majority of the 230+ would do the same.
Why do people have to be like this on the internet, when you know that the more brutal a place it is the worse for yourself (internet user)in the long run.

goodie2shoes

Red21 wrote: »

Who leaves their passport at home when going for a flight?
Who tips their car of a parked car?
Who leaves their passcard/cash in the Atm?
Who leaves their keys at the checkout in tesco?
Who loses their wedding ring?
Who leaves their jacket at a bar/nightclub?
The list goes on and on and eventually you'll have everybody included, because from time to time we all do stuff thats really stupid and outta character, the OP could've been carrying a wallet for 20 years without any incident, but on the internet you'll still get people only too eager to stick the knief in at any oppurtunity they'll find.
I'm not just talking about this post because there has been far worse than this said, i'm talking about the 230+ thanks it has recieved. It's not an AH thing nor is it a Boards.ie thing, it's an internet thing how so many people are willing to be a cxxt a the drop of a hat.
If I oor you met someone who had the misfortune of having this happen them, i'd try help them and id sympathise with them, but here's the thing, I believe that the majority of the 230+ would do the same.
Why do people have to be like this on the internet, when you know that the more brutal a place it is the worse for yourself (internet user)in the long run.

wtf are u rambling on about?

Red21

goodie2shoes wrote: »

wtf are u rambling on about?

That social media is a quagmire. Take this thread and the overwhelming support for the above comment which has no other purpose than making the victim of a crime feel worse than he/she already does.

When something out of the ordinary like this happens you can take it as a given, that the victim is fully aware that their actions on this occasion were foolish. But here on boards, even though the OP had said the event had just happened the majority of people felt that the most important thing at a time like this, is to let the OP know it was their own fault. Just on the off chance they didn't feel bad enough already.

racso1975

Cheers red really appreciate that!!! As well as the lovely PM's I have got off of people and others on this thread.

goodie2shoes

racso1975 wrote: »

Cheers red really appreciate that!!! As well as the lovely PM's I have got off of people and others on this thread.

it's truly heartening to know there are still good people out there.
God Bless you!

poeticseraphim

dodderangler wrote: »

+1 on that
Sure he might aswell have left his phone wallet house keys and address on table aswell
Maybe bank account details aswell
Your own fault mate
In these times you'd have to be but slow to leave a wallet on a table unattended
Suppose it's a lesson for you

You could say this about most wrong doing. This attitude actually shows lax morals. It is inherently wrong to steal. It should be condemned.

Those who have placed blame at the OP actually have no real moral compass. It is partially why politicians get away with what they do.


You have a right to expect people to obey the law. If you did not society could not function.

I don't understand the emotional immaturity shown here. Why further hurt someone who has been hurt? The way some have reacted in wrong in and of itself.

Sorry OP.

And I REALLY hope you get that job:) Maybe it will turn into the memory of the job application you got and not the negative thing.


EVERYONE WISH THE OP GOOD LUCK IN THE NEW JOB!!!:)


LET'S TURN THIS THREAD AROUND.

GOOD LUCK OP YOU WILL ROCK THE INTERVIEW! FEEL GOOD!

dodderangler

But he says that he hopes karma gets the fella that done this
Who's to say this isn't karma gettin the op back
I'm sure he's no saint
No one is.

Spook_ie

Let me see now

Red21 wrote: »

Who leaves their passport at home when going for a flight?Nope
Who tips their car of a parked car?Not so far
Who leaves their passcard/cash in the Atm?Nope
Who leaves their keys at the checkout in tesco?Lost some keys once but not at a checkout
Who loses their wedding ring?Nope
Who leaves their jacket at a bar/nightclub?Nope
The list goes on and on and eventually you'll have everybody included, because from time to time we all do stuff thats really stupid and outta character, the OP could've been carrying a wallet for 20 years without any incident, but on the internet you'll still get people only too eager to stick the knief in at any oppurtunity they'll find.
I'm not just talking about this post because there has been far worse than this said, i'm talking about the 230+ thanks it has recieved. It's not an AH thing nor is it a Boards.ie thing, it's an internet thing how so many people are willing to be a cxxt a the drop of a hat.
If I oor you met someone who had the misfortune of having this happen them, i'd try help them and id sympathise with them, but here's the thing, I believe that the majority of the 230+ would do the same.
Why do people have to be like this on the internet, when you know that the more brutal a place it is the worse for yourself (internet user)in the long run.

danslevent

On a happier note, I left my purse behind me on a table in my University gym today. Handed into reception with all monies still there

Topper Harley

Spook_ie wrote: »

Let me see now

Well done you. But pride comes before the fall.

I, like many others (but apparently not everyone), sometimes make mistakes. A bit of humility can help in acknowledging them. Usually they go unpunished, but I'd like to think I learn from them anyway. And then I don't go berating others for making mistakes of their own, as if I've never made any.

Spook_ie

Topper Harley wrote: »

Well done you. But pride comes before the fall.

I, like many others (but apparently not everyone), sometimes make mistakes. A bit of humility can help in acknowledging them. Usually they go unpunished, but I'd like to think I learn from them anyway. And then I don't go berating others for making mistakes of their own, as if I've never made any.

There are mistakes, there are mistakes that are avoidable, I put leaving a wallet unattended while you go outside to make a phone call as an avoidable mistake, he has my sympathy in he lost money he doesn't have it for making an avoidable mistake. If he'd been running outside to save the life of a little child running into the road then yeah but he was making a phone call

Topper Harley

Spook_ie wrote: »

There are mistakes, there are mistakes that are avoidable, I put leaving a wallet unattended while you go outside to make a phone call as an avoidable mistake, he has my sympathy in he lost money he doesn't have it for making an avoidable mistake. If he'd been running outside to save the life of a little child running into the road then yeah but he was making a phone call

All mistakes are avoidable, that's what makes them mistakes. If they were unavoidable, then they wouldn't be mistakes, they'd just be a shit situation.

You are just an example of a vary cavalier attitude on here towards the OP. You are far from the worst though. There are some here who are acting as if the OP actually deserved this, which is ridiculous.

deisebibo

dodderangler wrote: »

+1 on that
Sure he might aswell have left his phone wallet house keys and address on table aswell
Maybe bank account details aswell
Your own fault mate
In these times you'd have to be but slow to leave a wallet on a table unattended
Suppose it's a lesson for you

Ah jeez, give him a break, I left my phone down in Ikea one day (ringing to find out what exact item a friend needed) afterwards writing the number down on the docket. I wandered off happily with my trolley and bag, and only when i got to checkout realised my phone was gone, retraced my steps and thankfully found it again where i had left it down (totally expected it to be gone).

Can easily happen, god if everyone was soooo perfect,

daveyeh

Thief steals cash from unattended wallet : To be expected.

Library staff & CCTV no help : To be expected.

Gardai don't care : To be expected.

SW may refund stolen money : :eek: WTF????

If it's true, I want in on this scam.