Liverpool Vs Newcastle 4th Nov KO 4:00pm (Sky Sports 1)

Luckycharms_74

Brendan Rodgers lamented Liverpool's continued reliance on Steven Gerrard, plus Luis Suárez, after the Capital One Cup defeat by Swansea, but he was not the first Anfield manager to do so. Gerrard will become the 10th player in Liverpool's history to make 600 appearances for the club on Sunday and needs victory not to record the milestone but to ignite the season. As do Newcastle, who have yet to win away from home so far this campaign. Liverpool have not won back-to-back league games at home since September 2011.Suárez and Demba Ba are both in the form to maintain the fixture's high-scoring traditions.

Venue Anfield, Sunday 4pm

Tickets Sold out

Last season Liverpool 3 Newcastle 1

Referee Anthony Taylor

This season's matches 7 Y13, R2, 2.14 cards per game

Odds Liverpool 4-7 Newcastle 5-1 Draw 3-1

Liverpool

Subs from Reina, Gulacsi, Carragher, Coates, Shelvey, Henderson, José Enrique, Downing, Assaidi, Morgan, Robinson, Cole, Yesil, Pacheco

Doubtful Reina (hamstring), Johnson (thigh)

Injured Lucas (thigh, 26 Nov), Borini (foot, Jan), Kelly (knee, Mar)

Suspended None Form guide DWDWLD

Disciplinary record Y14 R2

Leading scorer Suárez 6

Newcastle

Subs from Harper, S Taylor, Ferguson, Anita, Bigirimana, Sammy Ameobi, Cissé, Obertan, Marveaux, Campbell

Doubtful Ba (shin)

Injured Elliot (groin, 10 Nov), Vuckic (knee, Aug), R Taylor (knee, Aug), Gosling (knee, unknown), Ferguson (hip, unknown)

Suspended Tioté (second of three)

Form guide WDLDWD Disciplinary record Y21 R1

Leading scorer Ba 7

Match pointers

• Liverpool have won 15 and lost none of the past 17 top-flight games against Newcastle at Anfield

• Newcastle's match against West Bromwich last week was only the second time that Papiss Cissé and Demba Ba have scored in the same Premier League match

• Luis Suárez has either scored or assisted 80% of Liverpool's league goals this season (excluding own goals)

• The only goal that Newcastle have scored in their last six visits to Liverpool was an own goal from Daniel Agger in this fixture last season

• Liverpool have won just three of their last 14 home games in this division, losing six and drawing five times

BorneTobyWilde

4-3

Luckycharms_74

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

4-3

The moment that I rememberr from that match was Keegan slumped over the hoardings after Collymores winner

Moneymaker

Not looking forward to this one. Last win was 18 years ago and we just never seem to turn up here regardless of what state Liverpool are in.

Easy 2-0 win for Liverpool. We're not playing well and Liverpool need to start winning games at Anfield, pretty much the perfect game for them.

Turtyturd

Class Banner...Coloccini looks like a war veteran who is missing legs.:pac:

Anyway since LuckyCharms beat Mike65 to starting this thread Newcastle are going to win. Should be interesting to see if Andy Carroll is in amongst the away supporter.

3-1 Newcastle.

mike65

I can only see a loss here! At some point Newcastle have to win at Anfield again and they may not get a better chance than tomorrow. (hopefully that's enough reverse-cycleology!)

Morzadec

I find this hard to predict.

I think Newcastle could cause us some problems. In particular I think Ben Arfa could have some joy running at us if he has too much space.

That said, I would expect Liverpool to dominate most of the ball. A lot will depend (as always in Anfield) on our ability to finish and in particular what kind of game Suarez has.

I'll go 2-1 Liverpool but I'm not too confident about it.

Washington Irving

4-3 Liverpool, Shelvey with the routine injury time winner

wcarey1975

3-0 not saying who to though

Will I Amnt

Massive price for Newcastle although they do have a horrible record at Anfield.
Still, I'll be tempted to stick a few bob on them considering Liverpools recent home form.

I'm actually shocked at Liverpool's price of 4/7(betfair)

I'd have us as an evens shot or bigger.

Newcastle are indeed a massive price.

But I do like the 6/4 on Suarez to score anytime given his form..

Vurnon San Benito

5/1 for a NUFC win. I will be having a nice dabble on that for sure.

BetterCallSaul

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

This is the first Liverpool vs Newcastle game I remember watching as a kid, so I've never seen us win at Anfield.

Safe to say I'm not too confident about tomorrow.

klose

SaulGoode9 wrote: »

4-3 Liverpool, Shelvey with the routine injury time winner

I am unaware of this ever happening?

~Rebel~

whippedcream wrote: »

I am unaware of this ever happening?

He means in terms of the legendary 4-3 Liverpool V Newcastle games won at the death, rather than Shelvey specifically scoring last minute winners.

ROCKMAN

Doocey wrote: »

5/1 for a NUFC win. I will be having a nice dabble on that for sure.

Think i'll be joining you 5/1 Just too tempting..

_blank_

Why are they 5/1?

Must be something the bookies aren't telling.

amiable

_blank_ wrote: »

Why are they 5/1?

Must be something the bookies aren't telling.

The bookies know people back Liverpool blind.
They can offer odds shorter than their true market value and still get people to back them.

kenyard

liverpool are playing well just not scoring.
wing backs have been poor recently, with wisdom being shown up against swansea. but he has been solid up to that point.
i think newcastle are lacking the creativity to trouble us. we will dominate posession and i can see suarez having a few chances as colocini wont be able to keep up with him and probably they will sit deep as a result.
if we have a decent distance striker i can see that being where the goal comes from. so only one option there - gerrard.

BetterCallSaul

LAWRO'S PREDICTION

"This is a tough-looking game for Liverpool against a Newcastle side that I feel have played better and should have more points than their league position and tally suggests so far. It is a massive game for Reds boss Brendan Rodgers too. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the way his teams play the game but the problem is they have to get results too."

What is this man smoking.

doc_17

I would like to see Reina back in sooner rather than later. We certainly don't want to alienating him. Jones is dodgy under the high ball.

I thought Enrique did ok against Everton. Maybe that'll boost his confidence if he starts again today

niallo27

_blank_ wrote: »

Why are they 5/1?

Must be something the bookies aren't telling.

Probably because of the record they have there, 18 years without a win. They never play well at anfield.

Luckycharms_74

600th game for Gerrard today, what an achievement

Will I Amnt

Looking forward to this one now. It was a pretty barren weekend so far for goals, hopefully this will go against the grain.
Suarez anytime scorer does look a good bet, he's in excellent form in front of goal, as is Demba Ba.

Tough one to call, I'm guessing 3-2 to either side but couldn't resist a little nibble on Newcastle at that price.

Morzadec

cambo2008 wrote: »

Looking forward to this one now. It was a pretty barren weekend so far for goals, hopefully this will go against the grain.
Suarez anytime scorer does look a good bet, he's in excellent form in front of goal, as is Demba Ba.

Tough one to call, I'm guessing 3-2 to either side but couldn't resist a little nibble on Newcastle at that price.

Not sure if I'd agree with you there - he was good in this regard against Everton but in the two previous matches he was not at all clinical.

I certainly wouldn't back against him scoring today, but he may well miss a couple of decent chances and fail to get on the mark.

To be honest Suarez's form in front of goal today is going to be crucial and I'd go as far as to say it will be the deciding factor today.

Leiva

I fancy our CB's today in front of goal for corners and set pieces.

Xavi6

Leiva wrote: »

I fancy our CB's today in front of goal for corners and set pieces.

Not now that the clocks have changed

Turtyturd

Morzadec wrote: »

Not sure if I'd agree with you there - he was good in this regard against Everton but in the two previous matches he was not at all clinical.

I certainly wouldn't back against him scoring today, but he may well miss a couple of decent chances and fail to get on the mark.

To be honest Suarez's form in front of goal today is going to be crucial and I'd go as far as to say it will be the deciding factor today.

He probably won't want to score against us if we are going to sign him in January.

Will I Amnt

Morzadec wrote: »

Not sure if I'd agree with you there - he was good in this regard against Everton but in the two previous matches he was not at all clinical.

I certainly wouldn't back against him scoring today, but he may well miss a couple of decent chances and fail to get on the mark.

To be honest Suarez's form in front of goal today is going to be crucial and I'd go as far as to say it will be the deciding factor today.

He's still missing chances alright but you can't really argue with his goals/game ratio which is what I was getting at with the excellent form.

I think he gets into far more goal scoring positions than most forwards in the league which makes up for his conversion rate.

Leiva

Xavi6 wrote: »

Not now that the clocks have changed

Read on mf read on !

Paully D

The Trinity Killer from Dexter (John Lithgow) is at Anfield

5starpool

Confirmed #LFC team v Newcastle: Jones, Wisdom, Enrique, Agger, Skrtel, Sahin, Gerrard, Allen, Suso, Sterling, Suarez.
Subs: Gulacsi, Henderson, Assaidi, Carragher, Shelvey, Downing, Coates.

#NUFC line-up vs #LFC: Krul; Anita, S.Taylor, Coloccini, Santon; Ben Arfa, Perch, Cabaye, Gutierrez; Ba, Cisse

Yakult

Paully D wrote: »

The Trinity Killer from Dexter (John Lithgow) is at Anfield

Better known as Dick from 3rd Rock from the Sun. Legend.

Knex*

When is Assaidi going to be given a chance from the start? Would prefer him over Suso today.

Paully D

5starpool wrote: »

Confirmed #LFC team v Newcastle: Jones, Wisdom, Enrique, Agger, Skrtel, Sahin, Gerrard, Allen, Suso, Sterling, Suarez.
Subs: Gulacsi, Henderson, Assaidi, Carragher, Shelvey, Downing, Coates.

#NUFC line-up vs #LFC: Krul; Anita, S.Taylor, Coloccini, Santon; Ben Arfa, Perch, Cabaye, Gutierrez; Ba, Cisse

Anita the weak link there for Newcastle. Any one of that Liverpool front three that plays out wide should be able to terrorize him.

Cue a man of the match performance and goal for Anita :pac:

double GG

Ba starts! Glad I backed the Newcastle win last night.

Leiva

Suso really needs to tuck in and give Wisdom a hand at times.

Turtyturd

Knex. wrote: »

When is Assaidi going to be given a chance from the start? Would prefer him over Suso today.

Looks like he is going to be this years Coates....good to see Farquaad there.

Will I Amnt

Both Cisse and Ba start. Surprised at that tbh.

cambo2008

cambo2008 wrote: »

Both Cisse and Ba start. Surprised at that tbh.

Why,they play every game together.

Turtyturd

There really should be a seperate Fantasy Football and Football betting thread.

double GG

rarnes1 wrote: »

Why,they play every game together.

I think he meant from the fact Ba was supposed to be carrying an injury and was a massive doubt to start.

Turtyturd

Turtyturd wrote: »

There really should be a seperate Fantasy Football and Football betting thread.

There is, but no harm mentioning bets on the match in hand. If discussing bets from other matches fair enough. Don't see the big deal myself.

Vurnon San Benito

Getting nervous now.

Put a few cheeky bets on:

Toon to win @ 5/1
Cabaye MOTM @ 16/1 covered with Suarez MOTM @ 6/1, or HBA @ 9/1.
Also backed Benny FGS @ 18/1.

Knowing my lucky - John Joe Shelvey will score in the 2nd minute and Lpool will hold out for a 1-0 win with Allen as MOTM!

Seriously though, this is our best chance of beating Liverpool since that 4-3 encounter. Howay the Lads!

ohyesthefinest

How long is Pepe out for?

double GG

double GG wrote: »

I think he meant from the fact Ba was supposed to be carrying an injury and was a massive doubt to start.

Ah right.

BetterCallSaul

Paully D wrote: »

Anita the weak link there for Newcastle. Any one of that Liverpool front three that plays out wide should be able to terrorize him.

Cue a man of the match performance and goal for Anita :pac:

Anita has looked very good at RB. He's looked very poor in midfield.

It will be a big test for him today though.

BetterCallSaul

Doocey wrote: »

Getting nervous now.


Seriously though, this is our best chance of beating Liverpool since that 4-3 encounter. Howay the Lads!

This is what I was thinking last season.

5starpool

Knex. wrote: »

When is Assaidi going to be given a chance from the start? Would prefer him over Suso today.

Assiadi wasn't very good against Swansea. I'm glad Suso is still ahead of him in the team as I think Suso is the better player.

Leiva

ohyesthefinest wrote: »

How long is Pepe out for?

and Johnson