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DCM 2012 Graduates - the next step
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Tbh I'm all over the place at the moment trying to decide what to do over the winter. Flipping between 10k, half plans, 3.15 marathon plans and now the ultra. I defo want to do an ultra sometime but seeing what it could do to a weekend I'm not sure.
STOP tomred your putting ideas into my head
Ha ha +1 on being all over the place with the what next ideas, these long dark evenings are giving me way too much thinking time, I don't know what to aim for.
The consensus here does seem to be the more miles the better no matter what distance your aiming for. So say if one was just aiming to focus on 5-10k for the time being, what length long run should we be looking at?
Wife is back so I never mentioned the word ultra!! Dont even know what it is ....last time I heard of the word I was smoking one....silk cut ultra to be exact. I was trying to give up john player blue at the time!!.
Ur a bit of a long run specialist Doco12. I remember ur logs on here and was wondering how u did those steady pace 20 milers. Come to think of it I fookin hate 20 milers on my own so adding a 30 prob is not a good idea. I'd also prob kill my labrador's and then I'd be buried with them !!0 -
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Onwards and upwards as they say. That mcmillan thing has been accurate enough in predicting up to half times for me this year. I think though you need to be running for longer than I have to be able to match its marathon predictions.
That's true but you are matching up better than most at your stage which is probably why you are best going down the short sharp route
As DrQ says, plenty of intervals and 5k races (you'll be surprised how quickly your 5k time improves just by racing 5ks) and target a 10k in the new year.
If you are near Dublin you can make a parkrun part of your weekly schedule...0 -
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Let me preface this mini report with the acknowledgment that I am well aware that the times on this are less than inspiring in the grand scheme of running and this forum here in particular.
That said though I personally enjoy reading race reports from all ends of the spectrum. The race is for most runners against yourself and your own abilities and this for me makes most race reports equally interesting. Granted epic reports and position chasing races like claralaras recent DCM report and Blockys cross country debut stand out a bit So on with the report which I am dropping here in the absence of a regular log on boards. (Plan is to return to logging properly early next year when a decent base / times to report will hopefully be supplied)
As most of you know from here I’m coming back from a long lay off and that itself coming after less than a years running since getting off the couch and out there from scratch. This would actually be my first race since DCM last year. Over the past few months I’ve dragged myself back up to running up to 8k on LSRs and 3-4k pace runs. Target here was for sub 30min – sneaky dream time under 29:04 which would be a PB. Knowing there was a cruel hill in the middle of this my strategy was to try and bank 30 seconds per km on the first 3k, hang on for the hill and then give it what I could for the last 1k.
Lined up at the start and was very emotional. The whole idea of the race is to remember / run for loved ones lost and memories were with me of my nan in particular who raised me like a mother.
Start – 2k
There were 4 start sections. Runners, Runners / Joggers, Joggers / Walkers and then Walkers themselves. I lined up at the top of the 3rd section Joggers / Walkers so in theory the faster joggers and runners would be ahead of me and all walkers behind me. Reality was I spent the first 2k weaving in and out of slower moving traffic including plenty of groups of walkers walking abreast blocking those behind. Should have expected it but was still a bit out of sorts trying to hit my time in the midst of it. Was reasonably comfortable though.
Watch splits:
5:38
5:33
3k
Predominantly downhill section. I was trying to balance making up a decent time on this section with saving a bit of juice for the hill to come. As it was I ended up with a similar split time to the first 2k so I think I erred too much on the side of caution.
5:38
4k
Whopper of a hill here. When you’re down in the furry glen before the 3k is up and you can see the road high up above you with runners from the race passing by you get an awful glimpse of the hill to come. A few people around me were thrown by this – a couple even blew up and stopped and this was before the hill even started. I knew it was coming though, had trained a bit on hills in the last few weeks and knew I had banked time. Just had to get up it without blowing up and ruining the 5th K. It was hard but not as hard as expected. Dedicated the effort to my Nan and powered up it. Total climb of 24 metres in this 1k with 18m of it in the first 400m though so very happy with the time.
6:07
5K
Went through 4k and my watch had me at just over 23 minutes. Happy days ! – I had 7 min to get to the finish to hit goal A and 6 minutes or so to hit a PB. I thought I had enough in the legs to open it up and come home in a majestic sprint but although I thought I was my pace wasn’t any different than the first km. About 150m from the finish line my family were there and I grabbed my daughter to run over the finish line with me. Lost a few seconds but couldn’t care less. She wanted to remember her Papa (my wives father who has also sadly passed) Went over the finish line and felt like throwing up. Must have looked like it so as one of the stewards says to me that I will be grand when I get an apple into me. WTF ?
5:33
Chip time 28:38 – New PB
Delighted with that result. I’ve come a long way back but am under no illusions as to how far I still have to go. For the moment though I'm happy to be out there improving on a weekly basis, getting fitter and continuing to drop the excess weight. I'm back to where I was (on shorter distances anyway) pre DCM 12 and now I feel I am going forward newly improving rather than catching up on what was previously lost. Going to allow myself a celebration beer watching Love / Hate tonight as celebration.
For you Nan.0 -
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Pacing Mule wrote: »Let me preface this mini report with the acknowledgment that I am well aware that the times on this are less than inspiring in the grand scheme of running and this forum here in particular. That said though I personally enjoy reading race reports from all ends of the spectrum. The race is for most runners against yourself and your own abilities and this for me makes most race reports equally interesting. Granted epic reports and position chasing races like claralaras recent DCM report and Blockys cross country debut stand out a bit So on with the report which I am dropping here in the absence of a regular log on boards. (Plan is to return to logging properly early next year when a decent base / times to report will hopefully be supplied)
As most of you know from here I’m coming back from a long lay off and that itself coming after less than a years running since getting off the couch and out there from scratch. This would actually be my first race since DCM last year. Over the past few months I’ve dragged myself back up to running up to 8k on LSRs and 3-4k pace runs. Target here was for sub 30min – sneaky dream time under 29:04 which would be a PB. Knowing there was a cruel hill in the middle of this my strategy was to try and bank 30 seconds per km on the first 3k, hang on for the hill and then give it what I could for the last 1k.
Lined up at the start and was very emotional. The whole idea of the race is to remember / run for loved ones lost and memories were with me of my nan in particular who raised me like a mother.
Start – 2k
There were 4 start sections. Runners, Runners / Joggers, Joggers / Walkers and then Walkers themselves. I lined up at the top of the 3rd section Joggers / Walkers so in theory the faster joggers and runners would be ahead of me and all walkers behind me. Reality was I spent the first 2k weaving in and out of slower moving traffic including plenty of groups of walkers walking abreast blocking those behind. Should have expected it but was still a bit out of sorts trying to hit my time in the midst of it. Was reasonably comfortable though.
Watch splits:
5:38
5:33
3k
Predominantly downhill section. I was trying to balance making up a decent time on this section with saving a bit of juice for the hill to come. As it was I ended up with a similar split time to the first 2k so I think I erred too much on the side of caution.
5:38
4k
Whopper of a hill here. When you’re down in the furry glen before the 3k is up and you can see the road high up above you with runners from the race passing by you get an awful glimpse of the hill to come. A few people around me were thrown by this – a couple even blew up and stopped and this was before the hill even started. I knew it was coming though, had trained a bit on hills in the last few weeks and knew I had banked time. Just had to get up it without blowing up and ruining the 5th K. It was hard but not as hard as expected. Dedicated the effort to my Nan and powered up it. Total climb of 24 metres in this 1k with 18m of it in the first 400m though so very happy with the time.
6:07
5K
Went through 4k and my watch had me at just over 23 minutes. Happy days ! – I had 7 min to get to the finish to hit goal A and 6 minutes or so to hit a PB. I thought I had enough in the legs to open it up and come home in a majestic sprint but although I thought I was my pace wasn’t any different than the first km. About 150m from the finish line my family were there and I grabbed my daughter to run over the finish line with me. Lost a few seconds but couldn’t care less. She wanted to remember her Papa (my wives father who has also sadly passed) Went over the finish line and felt like throwing up. Must have looked like it so as one of the stewards says to me that I will be grand when I get an apple into me. WTF ?
5:33
Chip time 28:38 – New PB
Delighted with that result. I’ve come a long way back but am under no illusions as to how far I still have to go. For the moment though I'm happy to be out there improving on a weekly basis, getting fitter and continuing to drop the excess weight. I'm back to where I was (on shorter distances anyway) pre DCM 12 and now I feel I am going forward newly improving rather than catching up on what was previously lost. Going to allow myself a celebration beer watching Love / Hate tonight as celebration.
For you Nan.
Congrats PM , job well done! Great PB.0 -
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Yeah, well done PM - I know that circuit well and the hill is no gimme. You did your homework well.
Great PB.
[edit - absolutely agree with RedRunner's comment. No need for the semi-apology. Nearly everyone here has come through a similar journey and most of us are "joggers" at the end of the day.]0 -
Thanks for the encouragement guys and gals
I really don't want to drag up old bull**** but said old bull**** is the reason I prefaced it. (Irony !) My old log turned into a bit of a battle zone about efforts made and whether or not previous progress should be applauded or not etc. Just don't want to get into it again so wanted to make sure there was no hint of me thinking I am better than I am (Which I never did of course but perceptions can be inaccurate) I genuinely don't care in the greater scheme of things but I do want to keep my head down, do my work etc and let boards be a place to hang out and discuss the sport I love and not a place where I'm arguing / defending a position. That's not what it should be about !
I know where I am at. I know the effort I've put in and I am very happy with myself and am proud of my progress. I'm not putting myself down in any way at all but I do appreciate the points being made and where they come from.
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AuldManKing wrote: »Nice work PM - onwards and upwards.
You can nearly hear the pride in the report!
Onwards and downwards lots of wiggle room for more pbs next year. 0 -
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I love when this happens.
Was due a recovery / easy run tonight but really didn't fancy it. Windy, cold and rainy. You know when you tell yourself it will be grand once you get out but you suspect deep down that you are lying to yourself. But then you get out there and within 5 steps know this is a great run. The buzz is there, the rain is glorious, the wind is a challenge and everything feels good. Ended up staying out for double what I had originally intended to do and only went home because I was hungry 0
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