DCM 2012 Graduates - the next step

saligator

Yay! delighted there's a new thread! Gonna log my training and post more (if i've something to say) as I was very quiet on the previous thread.

Goals:
Have registered for HM in Barcelona in Feb, would like to do that in under 2hrs, (previous PB was 2.11 in Achill which is fairly hilly). I'll def do Achill again as well as the usuals like the Great Ireland Run, Mini Marathon, Docklands etc; hopefully will get PB's in all of them!!

Would def love to do another marathon, dunno where or when yet.

Need to focus on strenthening and core work...but then again I say that every yr and don't folow thru.....

Steroo

Great thread. Thanks guys I'm in. I'm still basking in beer and chocolate since dcm but that'll stop next week! Going for an easy 3 miles on wed. I can't manage to copy and paste the titles on my phone so here's my plan: sign up for cork marathon June bh. I pre registered for Berlin but not decided yet, will it be v costly?
Planning a 10k in clontarf in dec.
need to get faster and work on core and form.
I want a garmin from Santa!
Dcm 2012 was 4:16 so I want sub 4 or better next year
10k sub 50 mins
Half: sub 1:50
I do a bit of cycling so ill keep that up
And I'll start hill work around Howth v soon.

Would defo enjoy meeting up for weekend runs as suggested by mr slow I think.

Good luck all

blockic

StephenRooney wrote: »

I pre registered for Berlin but not decided yet, will it be v costly?

Looks like i'm out of Berlin too. Gutted! Was really planning my year around it next year. Going to be in the States with work so won't get back for it. Should be back for Dublin though.

Need to find a new target marathon now!

PM, just an idea on the tracker, might or might not work. In a couple of weeks when people have decided what race they are targeting for spring/summer maybe we can put in a races tab and people can put thier names down against a race.

This way people can see who is doing the same race and as a result be at the same stage training wise.

rainbow kirby

blockic wrote: »

Looks like i'm out of Berlin too. Gutted! Was really planning my year around it next year. Going to be in the States with work so won't get back for it. Should be back for Dublin though.

Need to find a new target marathon now!

How about possibly doing one in the US if you're going to be there for a while?

career_move

E coli posted this on the "class of 2011" thread last year for people aiming at the Waterford half

"My advice would be post recovery (1 week) to aim to try similar schedule during the week with the only difference being stretch out the long run at weekend following this pattern

Week 1 Saturday and Sunday 70 min easy
Week 2 Saturday 90 min easy
Week 3 Saturday Sunday 60 min easy


After this taper for the remaining week"

What do you think Meno?

blockic

rainbow kirby wrote: »

How about possibly doing one in the US if you're going to be there for a while?

Ha, I'm already on it!

Chicago Marathon - 13th October should fit in nicely!

Anyone know if this has a required qualification time or is it open entry?

menoscemo

career_move wrote: »

E coli posted this on the "class of 2011" thread last year for people aiming at the Waterford half

"My advice would be post recovery (1 week) to aim to try similar schedule during the week with the only difference being stretch out the long run at weekend following this pattern

Week 1 Saturday and Sunday 70 min easy
Week 2 Saturday 90 min easy
Week 3 Saturday Sunday 60 min easy


After this taper for the remaining week"

What do you think Meno?

Looks good. I was going to add 10 minutes to the LSR each week so as to be doing 80 minutes at the end of week 3. Much of a muchness I would imagine. You already have the fitness built up from marathon training and we are unlikely to add to that fitness before Waterford. It's just a matter of maintaining and recovering before then (though I will maybe add in a 'feeler' session about 10 days out...)

tang1

blockic wrote: »

Ha, I'm already on it!

Chicago Marathon - 13th October should fit in nicely!

Anyone know if this has a required qualification time or is it open entry?

There are start corrals, A,B,C and so on. Going on your DCM finishing time you would qualify for corral B. Thats based on a sub 3.35 marathon or sub 1.35 half. You have both.

menoscemo

blockic wrote: »

Ha, I'm already on it!

Chicago Marathon - 13th October should fit in nicely!

Anyone know if this has a required qualification time or is it open entry?

I think that one is like Berlin as in you can register without qualifications times/charity entries (the only US 'major' you can do that for). You'll oikely have to be quick though once registration opens.

It'll also fit in well for your plans to pace DCM next year

Pacing Mule

blockic wrote: »

Looks like i'm out of Berlin too. Gutted! Was really planning my year around it next year. Going to be in the States with work so won't get back for it. Should be back for Dublin though.

Need to find a new target marathon now!

PM, just an idea on the tracker, might or might not work. In a couple of weeks when people have decided what race they are targeting for spring/summer maybe we can put in a races tab and people can put thier names down against a race.

This way people can see who is doing the same race and as a result be at the same stage training wise.

Sounds like a plan !

RayCun

curr33 wrote: »

the 8m marathon warm down in Phoenix pk on Sat. Partly cross country so hopefully gentle enough.

if it's a race, it won't be gentle

curr33

RayCun wrote: »

if it's a race, it won't be gentle

My races are gentle enough:)

menoscemo

curr33 wrote: »

My races are gentle enough:)

They shouldn't be

Mr Slow

curr33 wrote: »

My races are gentle enough:)

5k:
Mile 1 - This is tough
Mile 2 - OMG will this ever end I feel sick
Mile 3 - I hate 5k's I'm not meant to run this fast, someone shoot me so I can stop
Last .1 -

Then you cross the finish line, recover and smile and say something like 'Racing is what it's all about'

blockic

Hi guys,

Just in case you havn't seen it. Kurt is organising an order for Boards t-shirts if you are interested here.

Make it alot easier to spot/ support each other when we are out racing!

snowman224

What are your next goals? (another marathon, concentrate on shorter distances etc.)

Another marathon (or two) in 2013.
Looking at the waterford half in December as I think I need a longer run goal than a 10km.

What type of training to you intend to do over the winter? (strengthening, endurance, just keep ticking over)

Strengthen my quads. I had two knee ops on the same knee and my quad on that leg is much smaller than the other one. :-| Should really have sorted that before DCM2012... probably no coincidence all the problems I had were on the other leg.

Where do you hope to see yourself to be in 12 months with your running? (PBs, races run etc.)

Another marathon (Stockholm, June & entering NYC lottery)

Beat my PBs:
5m : 39:37 Race Series 2012
10k: 48:13 Curragh
HM: 2:12:49 1st half of DCM2012 - aiming for sub 2 in Waterford
Marathon: 4:53:37 DCM

Marathon time is the big one I want to take down.
Next goal, under 4:30
Want to be under within a year. Should be possible.
Terrible display in DCM2012 - not reflective of my ability at all.

KillianByrne

Waterford Half entered - I'm taking this one slow & steady. :rolleyes:

Deedee2012

Mr Slow wrote: »

5k:
Mile 1 - This is tough
Mile 2 - OMG will this ever end I feel sick
Mile 3 - I hate 5k's I'm not meant to run this fast, someone shoot me so I can stop
Last .1 -

Then you cross the finish line, recover and smile and say something like 'Racing is what it's all about'

That's why I hate short distances, hand on heart I'd rather run a marathon than a 5k

ncmc

blockic wrote: »

Hi guys,

Just in case you havn't seen it. Kurt is organising an order for Boards t-shirts if you are interested here.

Make it alot easier to spot/ support each other when we are out racing!

Brilliant, so excited to get one of these! Wonder will it be ready in time for the Waterford 1/2!

rasher_m

snowman224 wrote: »

What are your next goals? (another marathon, concentrate on shorter distances etc.)

Another marathon (or two) in 2013.
Looking at the waterford half in December as I think I need a longer run goal than a 10km.

What type of training to you intend to do over the winter? (strengthening, endurance, just keep ticking over)

Strengthen my quads. I had two knee ops on the same knee and my quad on that leg is much smaller than the other one. :-| Should really have sorted that before DCM2012... probably no coincidence all the problems I had were on the other leg.

Where do you hope to see yourself to be in 12 months with your running? (PBs, races run etc.)

Another marathon (Stockholm, June & entering NYC lottery)

Beat my PBs:
5m : 39:37 Race Series 2012
10k: 48:13 Curragh
HM: 2:12:49 1st half of DCM2012 - aiming for sub 2 in Waterford
Marathon: 4:53:37 DCM

Marathon time is the big one I want to take down.
Next goal, under 4:30
Want to be under within a year. Should be possible.
Terrible display in DCM2012 - not reflective of my ability at all.

You should be capable of a sub 4 with that 10km time. I got 4.22 and my 10km best was 52 mins and that was totally flat!

Micilin Muc

Deedee2012 wrote: »

That's why I hate short distances, hand on heart I'd rather run a marathon than a 5k

I was the same, until I got more experience in doing races. I puked after the finish line of my last 10km, but the race was so satisfying, and didn't take over my life like a marathon does!

Deedee2012

Micilin Muc wrote: »

I was the same, until I got more experience in doing races. I puked after the finish line of my last 10km, but the race was so satisfying, and didn't take over my life like a marathon does!

I think half marathon could be my distance

snowman224

rasher_m wrote: »

You should be capable of a sub 4 with that 10km time. I got 4.22 and my 10km best was 52 mins and that was totally flat!

Think there was a couple of minutes left in Kildare that day too. Was a HORRIBLE course and on a horribly windy day with the last 2km or so uphill.

Thanks for the vote of confidence!

curr33

Deedee2012 wrote: »

That's why I hate short distances, hand on heart I'd rather run a marathon than a 5k

Wouldn't bother getting out of bed for less than 10K!:)

tang1

snowman224 wrote: »

Think there was a couple of minutes left in Kildare that day too. Was a HORRIBLE course and on a horribly windy day with the last 2km or so uphill.

Thanks for the vote of confidence!

I done the 10km that day to, it was a horrible day for running, went out 3 weeks later and ran 4 and a half mins quicker than my Kildare time. So you defo have a faster time in you.

snowman224

tang1 wrote: »

I done the 10km that day to, it was a horrible day for running, went out 3 weeks later and ran 4 and a half mins quicker than my Kildare time. So you defo have a faster time in you.

I was half a stone lighter then though

Unbelievably put on weight while training for a marathon. I beat science!!

Was looking at the run in the dark, Dublin there. 10km next wednesday.
Closing date for entry is this wed.

Might be a good opportunity to give my PB a test.

aoifo

Heres my contribution once i get the all clear with my foot tomor:) fingers crossed
What are your next goals? (another marathon, concentrate on shorter distances etc.)

My plan is to do a couple of shorter distance races over the next 3 months, maybe 10k and Half Marathon in the spring

What type of training to you entend to do over the winter? (strenthening, endurance, just keep ticking over) might take up a yoga class for strenthening core muscles

Will follow HH recover plan( once i get the clear on my foot, )

Where do you hope to see yourself to be in 12 months with your running?
10k-45mins
half marathon under 2hrs- did one in may in 2hrs 10mins

docrock

Ok finally getting around to add my two cents to this thread.You boys & girls were fast off the mark in fairness to you.Like someone else earlier I didnt make McGrattens either so it would be nice to put faces to the names, plus what really pisses me off is that I must have been running in some of youre shoes for a long way without knowing it & who knows a bit of a chat might have passed the miles a bit easier all round.

What are your next goals? (another marathon, concentrate on shorter distances etc.)
Just to keep up the training & see what happens, it was always in the back of my mind to do a marathon but I never thought that I'd get to that level & I know youve heard it a thousand times before but if I can do it anyone can.I also never thought that I'd enjoy or manage to fit in the training either or in fact miss it as much now that I've done nothing over the past week - except eat rubbish!!! I dont know what I'll do to be honest,I told myself never again 1,000 times over the last 4 miles but I feel that theres a small bit of unfinished business all the same.Did I enjoy Dublin, yeah had a ball for 21 odd miles but the last 5 will live with me forever:eek:Am I wiser & would I do things differently to avoid the meltdown & make me enjoy the whole experience again, most definately but the jury is still out as to whether I'll have another go or not.The strange thing is that I cant wait to get out for a few miles but I picked up a foot injury which only flared up on tuesday. I thought that it would settle down a bit more than what it has so I went off to A&E this morning for an xray which came back fine. They said it probably only a tissue injury which should clear up with a bit of rest & physio.I have been bathing it in epsom salts & putting on some difflam cream but as long as I know theres nothing broken I'm more at ease with it -the timeframe didnt really bother me up until this week but I feel that unless I start doing something again I'll end up watching the champions league & the rugby over the winter, which is not what I want to do.

What type of training to you entend to do over the winter? (strenthening, endurance, just keep ticking over)
Definately core strengthening training a few times a week on top of the usual miles.If I had the chance to do one thing again before last Monday it would be to strengthen my hamstrings,quads, hips - that general area was where the real pressure came on.

Where do you hope to see yourself to be in 12 months with your running? (PBs, races run etc.)
I would like to do a sub 4 hr marathon & I think thats what will keep me running to that level.I know what to do now (kind of anyway) its whether I have the drive to do it or not is the question.I suppose the target first was to get under an hour for 10k, then under 2 hrs for the half & 4 for the full, the only one of those that I havent done is the latter & the others are being done comfortably at this stage.I'd also like to be about a stone lighter than where I am at the moment which I think would make a massive overall difference - its not that easy to lose weight when youre starved after a 20k run though:eek:

Hey, aoifo how's your foot since Dublin, you seemed to pick up the same injury as me???? I was fine on Monday & then on Tuesday out of nowhere I cant walk on it without pain. Its just below the ankle area on the outside of my foot but as I said above after the trip to xray its just a soft tissue injury which can be sorted fairly quickly.

I look forward to posting a bit more here than what I did on on the novices thread (only found it in Sept) & well done with all the efforts.

saligator

anybody opt for the iTab for their medal and know when/how we get it? haven't heard anything about it since the marathon, friend of mine said she never got hers last year and had to chase them up months later when she finally remembered it......ok i admit it...i iwant to show off my time and medal

Mr Slow

saligator wrote: »

anybody opt for the iTab for their medal and know when/how we get it? haven't heard anything about it since the marathon, friend of mine said she never got hers last year and had to chase them up months later when she finally remembered it......ok i admit it...i iwant to show off my time and medal

I had to chase them too last year but I got it in the end.

Mr Slow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBBkcv-3BX8

rasher_m

Anyone up for a run in the park this weekend?
If so then I'll stick it in the running thread

Trampas

1st run since dcm today. Good to be back.

Going to drop up to Donadea AC next week. Been talking to Ultraman.

To Paris or not to Paris is the question

davemcmahon

Just back from a game of football tonight for the first time in nearly a year (since before I started running). I couldn't believe the difference in fitness and general speed. The biggest thing I noticed was that I seem to have moved away from being a heel striker.

Would this change my gait? does this mean I need to look at getting a different type of runner, my current pair are Brooks Ravenna (a support runner)? Also is it worth getting a pair of racing flats?

On a separate note I'm getting used to using my HRM while running and using it to gauge my effort.

curr33

aoifo wrote: »

Heres my contribution once i get the all clear with my foot tomor:) fingers crossed
What are your next goals? (another marathon, concentrate on shorter distances etc.)

My plan is to do a couple of shorter distance races over the next 3 months, maybe 10k and Half Marathon in the spring

What type of training to you entend to do over the winter? (strenthening, endurance, just keep ticking over) might take up a yoga class for strenthening core muscles

Will follow HH recover plan( once i get the clear on my foot, )

Where do you hope to see yourself to be in 12 months with your running?
10k-45mins
half marathon under 2hrs- did one in may in 2hrs 10mins

didn't get the all clear on my foot today - tendons. Physio told me to wait another few weeks so I can only cycle/swim. Hope you get on better!

bren69

Got out for my first run since DCM today so thought it was time to add myself to this thread. Thanks to blockic, meno and PM.

What are your next goals?
Get to 1000 miles for the year (currently 891)
Connemara half in April

What type of training do you intend to do over the winter?
Going to keep running 4 times a week but try to add a bit of variety.
Also plan to get out on the bike a couple of times a week. Might try a couple of duathlons next year.

Where do you hope to see yourself to be in 12 months with your running?
5k - sub 22 (never raced)
10k - sub 45 (47:44 July 2012)
HM - sub 1:42 (1:47 Sept 2012)
Marathon - sub 3:45 (3:58:31 DCM 2012)

DOCO12

Trampas wrote: »

To Paris or not to Paris is the question

Snap with this one Trampas. I know we've been told we should leave it until May/ June but I can't get Paris or Rotterdam out of my head. Paris suits better work wise and has the atmosphere scenery etc? But the non-congested fast course in Rotterdam is appealing too. Ah what to do? The different race reviews have me very confused! Anybody know if either of these sell out fast?

Anyone else feel like they've so much free time from lack of training? Hence why I'm doing nothing but looking up races I'm feeling very lazy and sluggish. Can't justify my over-eating either

menoscemo

DOCO12 wrote: »

Snap with this one Trampas. I know we've been told we should leave it until May/ June but I can't get Paris or Rotterdam out of my head. Paris suits better work wise and has the atmosphere scenery etc? But the non-congested fast course in Rotterdam is appealing too. Ah what to do? The different race reviews have me very confused! Anybody know if either of these sell out fast?

I advised against a March marathon, April is better .

As far as I know, Rotterdam does not sell out. I heard that up until a few years ago you could even buy an entry on the morning of the race. Not sure if you can do that any more...

coalshed

Bit disappointed with my first run since DCM tonight...not one person cheered or clapped for me.

I'm somewhat interested in Rotterdam too, flights from Dublin (to Amsterdam) looked very reasonable when I checked them today.

docjewel

Hi everybody,
I hope ye don't mind a late gatecrasher joining the party.:D
A little background to my running,started last year doing my first 5k at the start of the summer.Had thought about doing the Dublin Marathon last year but took RayCun's advice on the novice thread & instead worked on building a base through last year & start of this year.Unfortunately the lure of a marathon couln't wait until October so did the inaugural Waterford Marathon.
Ended up doing Dublin in 3:43:52:)
Some weeks I can only run 3 or 4 days a week but there are other weeks when I might get out for 6 or 7 days so I run when I can & use the days where I can't as rest days.

What are your next goals? (another marathon, concentrate on shorter distances etc.)

Over the next few months,Waterford Half Marathon,John Treacy 10 in Dungarvan & maybe Ballycotton 10(If I can get an entry & see what all the fuss is about),Maybe a few shorter races leading up to the Summer,hopefully leading up to either Cork or Waterford Marathon & fingers crossed Dublin City Marathon again.

What type of training to you entend to do over the winter? (strenthening, endurance, just keep ticking over)

Over the winter hope to be able to hit the local athletics club winter league on as many Wednesday nights as possible & use it for speed work.
Also add a bit more structure to my running.

Where do you hope to see yourself to be in 12 months with your running? (PBs, races run etc.)

Like most people would love to knock some time off my PB's but would really like to knock a good chunk off my marathon time which hopefully in turn would have a domino effect on the rest of the PB's:cool:

upthe19th

Found out today that I can't do waterford marathon next year. Had hoped it would be one of the 2 I had planned to do. Not too happy about it, but thems the breaks...away that weekend.

So Cork is the next marathon goal...3rd june 2013....signed up and accommodation sorted. Let the games begin! (again:))

ncmc

upthe19th wrote: »

Found out today that I can't do waterford marathon next year. Had hoped it would be one of the 2 I had planned to do. Not too happy about it, but thems the breaks...away that weekend.

So Cork is the next marathon goal...3rd june 2013....signed up and accommodation sorted. Let the games begin! (again:))

Woohoo! Welcome to the Cork group! I haven't signed up yet, i'm always a bit nervous that something will happen and I won't be able to run, but it is definitely my next big goal. You will love it, I ran the relay in it this year and there is a great atmosphere, similar to Dublin in a lot of ways and the finish in Patrick St is great.

We must start picking a pub for the post race Boardsie Boozeup!

Steroo

ncmc wrote: »

Woohoo! Welcome to the Cork group! I haven't signed up yet, i'm always a bit nervous that something will happen and I won't be able to run, but it is definitely my next big goal. You will love it, I ran the relay in it this year and there is a great atmosphere, similar to Dublin in a lot of ways and the finish in Patrick St is great.

We must start picking a pub for the post race Boardsie Boozeup!

I'm defo on board for Cork too... think I'll book it this week to have it in stone. Any recommendations on good price & handy accomodation?

Mr Slow

ncmc wrote: »

We must start picking a pub for the post race Boardsie Boozeup!

Meno will announce this closer to the time

Cork is a great race I've run it the last two years and what it lacks in volume of runners it makes up for in spirit.

The River Lee hotel is gorgeous and pretty close to the start line, the Lancaster Lodge is beside it, a touch more cost effective but very comfortable. Both are located ideally for coming through the finish and going straight to your hotel, the last thing you want is to be fighting through crowds to get to a shower.;)

ncmc

StephenRooney wrote: »

I'm defo on board for Cork too... think I'll book it this week to have it in stone. Any recommendations on good price & handy accomodation?

Some good deals on Booking.com at the moment, The Clarion, Gresham, Maldron, Hotel Isaac all around the €79-110 mark. I live near the city so have never stayed in any of them, but location wise, they would all be pretty good.

ncmc

Mr Slow wrote: »

Meno will announce this closer to the time

Cork is a great race I've run it the last two years and what it lacks in volume of runners it makes up for in spirit.

The River Lee hotel is gorgeous and pretty close to the start line, the Lancaster Lodge is beside it, a touch more cost effective but very comfortable. Both are located ideally for coming through the finish and going straight to your hotel, the last thing you want is to be fighting through crowds to get to a shower.;)

*Awaits all Meno's posts with baited breath....*

How did you find the relay changeover points when you were running Mr Slow? I only ran through one changeover and it did add a bit of congestion. I would imagine it could be a bit of a pain for those running the whole thing. Plus having all these people sprinting past fresh as a daisy cos they're only running 5 miles! Must be a bit of a psychological bummer!

KillianByrne

6miles done - training plan says 11m per mile which I think would be close to walking so I managed to slow it to 10.10per mile. It felt really really slow like a first time out at 20stone kind of slow but I'm going to trust the plan as much as possible.

However, I'll enjoy the next few months if it stays like this!

upthe19th

StephenRooney wrote: »

I'm defo on board for Cork too... think I'll book it this week to have it in stone. Any recommendations on good price & handy accomodation?

I'm stayin with friends, so I can't help you there. But I'd say cork is good for places to stay....the earlier it can be booked might give a better chance of better prices...but it is a bank holiday as well

Mr Slow

ncmc wrote: »

*Awaits all Meno's posts with baited breath....*

How did you find the relay changeover points when you were running Mr Slow? I only ran through one changeover and it did add a bit of congestion. I would imagine it could be a bit of a pain for those running the whole thing. Plus having all these people sprinting past fresh as a daisy cos they're only running 5 miles! Must be a bit of a psychological bummer!

As you approach each changeover there are several stewards directing full runners left and relay runners to the right or vice versa so there's no interruption, what you do get is a wall of relay runners cheering as the full distance runners come through and that gives you a great lift.

ncmc

Mr Slow wrote: »

As you approach each changeover there are several stewards directing full runners left and relay runners to the right or vice versa so there's no interruption, what you do get is a wall of relay runners cheering as the full distance runners come through and that gives you a great lift.

That's a great way of looking at it actually, I have heard some runners giving out about being overtaken by the relay and half runners, but like you, my attitude would be more runners = better atmosphere, so it's all good!