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DCM 2012 Graduates - the next step
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chinguetti wrote: »
Ye know that Meno will expect to be paid in pints after races:p. So speed training is for the pub, not the races:DHey all!!
Great to see such a big uptake on this, I'll be hammered if we get a good group together.
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Great, at least we will be at the same stage with training.
I plan (at the moment) to follow meno's plan for the rest of the year and start of Jan, then maybe work out a 12 week plan starting in mid January leading up to the marathon. No idea what that will contain yet.
As I said, ideally ye wouldn't be doing a marathon so soon, instead buidling up strength and speed so you can really smash your next marathon. BUT there is probably no need to deviate from our plan. We will be building up the miles and sessions through January and by that stage you will be doing close to peak mileage (on the HH Novice 1 plan) week in week out. This training will be good for April marathoners anyway (90%of 10k/marathon training is the same). Marathoners can simply add a few miles to their long runs each week so that they are doing 15 milers regularly by then.
After January I can simply post a 10k-HM plan and a separate Marathon Plan. We'll have 8 weeks before taper to get ye race fit which will be loads. Obviously it would be easier if all the marathoners were racing the same week
As a matter of interest what programme did you follow for DCM and at what weekly mileage did you peak?0 -
After January I can simply post a 10k-HM plan and a separate Marathon Plan. We'll have 8 weeks before taper to get ye race fit which will be loads. Obviously it would be easier if all the marathoners were racing the same week
As a matter of interest what programme did you follow for DCM and at what weekly mileage did you peak?
Sounds good meno! Followed HHN2 for DCM but added in an extra mile on most of the LSRs. Peaked at about 37miles
..need to up that big time now! 0 -
Sounds good meno! Followed HHN2 for DCM but added in an extra mile on most of the LSRs. Peaked at about 37miles ..need to up that big time now!
You'll be surprised how quickly 30-40 mile weeks become easy, I peaked at 35 miles for my first marathon and thought it was all the miles you could fit into a week, now I'm looking at Krusty and his 100+ :eek:0 -
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Sounds good meno! Followed HHN2 for DCM but added in an extra mile on most of the LSRs. Peaked at about 37miles ..need to up that big time now!
With your HM speed and a few blocks of 50 mile weeks, you'll tear strips of your PB.
It really is great going to be breaking 3:30 after maxing at 37 miles a week :eek: Pretty annoying for some actually :pac: (mention no names, but I am one of them
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Once he starts beating me in races I'll kick him out of the group. Until then he is welcome.
(that goes for all of you btw)Sounds good meno! Followed HHN2 for DCM but added in an extra mile on most of the LSRs. Peaked at about 37miles ..need to up that big time now!With your HM speed and a few blocks of 50 mile weeks, you'll tear strips of your PB.
It really is great going to be breaking 3:30 after maxing at 37 miles a week :eek: Pretty annoying for some actually :pac: (mention no names, but I am one of them)
Careful now blockic! Whatever you do don't go sub 3hrs!!0 -
You'll be surprised how quickly 30-40 mile weeks become easy, I peaked at 35 miles for my first marathon and thought it was all the miles you could fit into a week, now I'm looking at Krusty and his 100+ :eek:
Very true! Felt like that myself at times recently. 100+ a week! :eek:With your HM speed and a few blocks of 50 mile weeks, you'll tear strips of your PB.
It really is great going to be breaking 3:30 after maxing at 37 miles a week :eek: Pretty annoying for some actually :pac: (mention no names, but I am one of them)
Haha, time will tell!! Sure I'll blame the mentor if it all goes wrong! :pac:
Looking forward to the challenge! :cool:0 -
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Sounds good meno! Followed HHN2 for DCM but added in an extra mile on most of the LSRs. Peaked at about 37miles ..need to up that big time now!HHN2 / 36m peak for me+1. Peaked at 36 miles. Was a little liberal at times with the plan though.
Whatever you've got planned meno...I'm ready...(I think).
Ok lads thats good in that there is massive room for improvment, bad in that we don't have as much time as I would like to build up a base for a proper crack at a fast marathon (increased injury risk).
We'll aim to peak at 50 MPW for the April marathoners in Feb/March since you are all pretty much coming off the same mileage. Good stuff.
Blockic, I just had a look at the Spreadsheet and see you have only covered just over 400 miles this year. Have you been running regularly before this year? If not, :eek: in those circumstances you really are looking at sub3 sooner rather than later...Has to be definite talent there....0 -
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Got a HRM in the post this morn, love getting new gadgets.
Just need a good race now in Dec to see where I'm at (and find out my max HR!)
Joined the a/c in work yesterday so will have a fine selection of races to pick from in the BHAA, got a run through of how the whole thing work and it seems to be well organised with grades etc.
Jingle Bells 5k 0 -
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Jingle Bells 5k
Ya, thats an option.
May hold off and go BHAA the week after (cheaper) but I would like to see where I am at pb wise and that one is XC (5k in marley park)
If I'm not in Dublin I could be in the vicinity of the Castleblayney 5k or the Birdhill 5k so will get something in.0 -
So i have a dilemma.
I have a 5k on the 25th of this month (first 5k race) and I have the Waterford half on the 1st.
Which should I have as my target for setting a PB?
I have never ran a 5k but have PB of 21.24 set during a half marathon. So I could probably break this handy going HM pace or a small bit faster.
However, If i target this I'll likely be wrecked for the Waterford half and not be able to target a PB for this. A sub 1.32.
So, should I:
1) Target the 5km and take the HM easy?
2) Take the 5k handy and target the HM?
3) Should I not target any for setting a PB because it's just a couple weeks after DCM?
Advise welcome!0 -
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So i have a dilemma.
I have a 5k on the 25th of this month (first 5k race) and I have the Waterford half on the 1st.
Which should I have as my target for setting a PB?
I have never ran a 5k but have PB of 21.24 set during a half marathon. So I could probably break this handy going HM pace or a small bit faster.
However, If i target this I'll likely be wrecked for the Waterford half and not be able to target a PB for this. A sub 1.32.
So, should I:
1) Target the 5km and take the HM easy?
2) Take the 5k handy and target the HM?
3) Should I not target any for setting a PB because it's just a couple weeks after DCM?
Advise welcome!
You should be fine. The rule of thumb is 1 day easy for every mile raced. You should be fully recovered from the 5k in 3 days and in plenty of time for a Half.
Race both. You will set PB's in Both.
I would expect you to go under 20 minutes for a 5k quite handily. We will likely have a speed session at the end of the week ending 25th November, so just skip that session (easy run instead) and race the 5k.0 -
So i have a dilemma.
I have a 5k on the 25th of this month (first 5k race) and I have the Waterford half on the 1st.
Which should I have as my target for setting a PB?
I have never ran a 5k but have PB of 21.24 set during a half marathon. So I could probably break this handy going HM pace or a small bit faster.
However, If i target this I'll likely be wrecked for the Waterford half and not be able to target a PB for this. A sub 1.32.
So, should I:
1) Target the 5km and take the HM easy?
2) Take the 5k handy and target the HM?
3) Should I not target any for setting a PB because it's just a couple weeks after DCM?
Advise welcome!
Answer the next question in one second - don't think about it at all. Just answer .....
What means more to you personally - a 5K PB or a HM PB ?
Whichever you just answered (if you did it in one second) is the one to aim for providing you are not pushing too soon after DCM / risking injury which I'm sure one of the more experienced guys can speak about.
Edit - Speedier words of wisdom say do both - happy days 0 -
Pageant Messiah wrote: »As a matter of interest blockic - what was your fitness base beforehand ? Where you a regular football / GAA player or similar or did you start from nothing at all ?
Yep, secret has been found out!
Was a GAA player but retired at the grand old age of 19!
Done nothing then (apart from aforementioned 10ks on no training) until I started up "proper" running last year at 25.0 -
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Pageant Messiah wrote: »What means more to you personally - a 5K PB or a HM PB ?
Haha, I actually couldnt pick one out so the only solution is:Race both. Will give it a shot anyway 0
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