Bizarre Limerick Dog Sex case

Oracle

This is the most incredible legal case, involving sex, I've read, probably ever.

A Limerick man who arranged for his dog to have sexual intercourse, with a woman he met over the internet, ended up being charged and convicted for buggery. His sentence has just been deferred. In the case, the woman involved, died in hospital, a few hours after the sexual intercourse. However they can't determine the exact cause of the woman’s death.
It all sounds too bizarre to be true, but it is ...

The woman, a 43-year-old separated mother from Co Limerick, died in hospital several hours after allegedly having sex with the animal in the man's home.

Sean McDonnell, 58, with an address at Rathmore, Churchill Meadows, Raheen in Limerick, pleaded guilty to one count of buggery with an animal on 7 October 2008.

Limerick Circuit Court heard that although semen swabs taken from the dog were matched to DNA found on the woman's body, no exact cause of death could be confirmed.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1102/dog-sex-limerick.html

There's another very important issue raised by this case. Why should anyone be charged with anything when the sexual encounter was reportedly, consensual and mutually arranged, albeit one that had an unfortunate outcome.

Also if the genders had been reversed, and the man had gone to the woman’s house, and the dog had sex with him, and the man subsequently died. Would the DPP (Director of Public Prosecutions) have taken a case against the woman for buggery?

FatherLen

didn't this happen yonks ago

Oracle

Yeah happened in 2008. Sorry they're gonna have to delete this, already been posted, sorry folks! This forum moves very fast.

jiltloop

Oracle wrote: »

There's another very important issue raised by this case. Why should anyone be charged with anything when the sexual encounter was reportedly, consensual and mutually arranged, albeit one that had an unfortunate outcome.

I'm not sure if you could say it was consensual for the dog. I think that's the whole basis for the law against bestiality, although to be honest I couldn't be certain. Tis a strange one.

El Weirdo

Oracle wrote: »

Yeah happened in 2008. Sorry they're gonna have to delete this, already been posted, sorry folks! This forum moves very fast.

I think I'll let one of the other mods search for "sex with dogs" and merge the threads.

dodderangler

That's a 'woof' way to go

johnwest288

Was the woman hot???:eek::rolleyes:

K-9

El Weirdo wrote: »

I think I'll let one of the other mods search for "sex with dogs" and merge the threads.

I better do it, it'll look odd if anybody else does.

johnwest288

FatherLen wrote: »

didn't this happen yonks ago

Yeah...even the dogs on the street know!

RidleyRider

jiltloop wrote: »

I'm not sure if you could say it was consensual for the dog. I think that's the whole basis for the law against bestiality, although to be honest I couldn't be certain. Tis a strange one.

I'm not being rude or anything but the dog must have gotten an erection to have sex with the dog?:p

One could only imagine the foreplay:p

jester77

Was just reading about buggery from a legal point of view. It's defined under British law as either:

• anal intercourse by a man with a man or woman
• vaginal intercourse by either a man or a woman with an animal

Which seems to imply that if the dog had had anal sex with the woman then there may not have been any crime committed.

Interesting law!

later12

The man involved has been charged with "buggery with a dog"; but my reading of it was that he was just an enthusiastic bystander?

666irishguy

I thought it was well established she died from an allergic reaction to dog semen. I'm guessing he could be charged with animal cruelty or something. Makes me wonder how much of it went/is going on unnoticed. Then again I suppose it's classic Rule 34.

nucker

Oracle wrote: »

This is the most incredible legal case, involving sex, I've read, probably ever.

A Limerick man who arranged for his dog to have sexual intercourse, with a woman he met over the internet, ended up being charged and convicted for buggery. His sentence has just been deferred. In the case, the woman involved, died in hospital, a few hours after the sexual intercourse. However they can't determine the exact cause of the woman’s death.
It all sounds too bizarre to be true, but it is ...



http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1102/dog-sex-limerick.html

There's another very important issue raised by this case. Why should anyone be charged with anything when the sexual encounter was reportedly, consensual and mutually arranged, albeit one that had an unfortunate outcome.

Also if the genders had been reversed, and the man had gone to the woman’s house, and the dog had sex with him, and the man subsequently died. Would the DPP (Director of Public Prosecutions) have taken a case against the woman for buggery?

Bestially laws makes having sex with animals illegal, I can't fathom out why it shouldn't be illegal. Secondly, are you sure that the dog ever consented? Just because the dog went over to have sex doesn't mean anything.

Having sex with animals, whether illegal or not, is disgusting and vile

The thing with the man getting the dog to have sex with should be prosecuted and should be illegal, whether the dog "consented" or not

Dyr

later12 wrote: »

The man involved has been charged with "buggery with a dog"; but my reading of it was that he was just an enthusiastic bystander?

You had your day in court pal

dodderangler

Was just wondering there
If this story was years ago then what was the op searching for in google to find this story????

Oracle

dodderangler wrote: »

Was just wondering there
If this story was years ago then what was the op searching for in google to find this story????

The OP didn't search that’s why he posted despite there being another 6 "Limerick Dog Sex" threads.

jiltloop

dodderangler wrote: »

Was just wondering there
If this story was years ago then what was the op searching for in google to find this story????

It's back in the news because the trial has started.

HigginsJ

johnwest288 wrote: »

Was the woman hot???:eek::rolleyes:

She was dog rough!!!

Oracle

jiltloop wrote: »

It's back in the news because the trial has started.

Yes, http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1102/dog-sex-limerick.html

Here's another point ... leaving the sex out of it completely, and consider this ....

I invite you to my place for peanut butter sandwiches. You love peanut butter, accept my invitation, and we agree to meet at my place to eat sandwiches. You arrive and we both listen to music and have peanut butter sandwiches. Everything goes fine, you go back home ....

... but then a few hours afterwards you become very ill and have to be taken to hospital. Unknown to you, and to me, you have developed a severe allergy to peanuts. Turns out your allergic reaction was so severe, despite the best efforts of the hospital, you died.

Should I then be charged with manslaughter or murder, because what you did during your visit to my house, caused your death?

Fratton Fred

How big is a dog's knob then?

If it was a horse, or something hung like a donkey then fair enough, but dogs aren't that well endowed ate they?

im invisible

johnwest288 wrote: »

Was the woman hot???:eek::rolleyes:

she was ruff

Siuin

HigginsJ wrote: »

She was dog rough!!!

Oooh! Bitchy!

prinz

Oracle wrote: »

Should I then be charged with manslaughter or murder, because what you did during your visit to my house, caused your death?

Except eating peanut butter is not illegal. Sexually abusing animals for your own gratification, thankfully, is. Your peanut butter example is completely meaningless.

Franticfrank

Yeah it was a pretty vile incident alright. The German Shepard literally banged the poor woman to death. Correct that she died from an allergic reaction - I read somewhere it was a very similar reaction to a peanut allergy.

Greenmachine

What exactly is the offence he being charged with. Living off the proceed of doggy prostitution?

Oracle

prinz wrote: »

Except eating peanut butter is not illegal. Sexually abusing animals for your own gratification, thankfully, is. Your peanut butter example is completely meaningless.

No its not because the women most likely died of an allergic reaction to the dogs semen. Why should the man be prosecuted he didn't have sex with the dog? He merely facilitated the encounter, which was mutually agreed.

RikkFlair

Maybe the poor woman thought she was gonna be rodgered by a shepherd from Germany, rather than an actual German Shepherd.

who_me

prinz wrote: »

Except eating peanut butter is not illegal. Sexually abusing animals for your own gratification, thankfully, is. Your peanut butter example is completely meaningless.

Given that the woman (supposedly) died from a reaction with the dog's semen, I'll go out on a limb here and guess the dog didn't have much of a problem with this abuse.

I'm guessing. I have no knowledge of this subject.

prinz

Oracle wrote: »

He merely facilitated the encounter, which was mutually agreed.

The encounter which was in itself an illegal act, and "mutually agreed" doesn't mean squat.

A better comparison would be Person A contacting paedophile B over the internet so that B could come round and abuse a child in Person A's care. Do you think just because Person A facilitated the encounter, and it was mutually agreed Person A shouldn't be charged?

prinz

who_me wrote: »

Given that the woman (supposedly) died from a reaction with the dog's semen, I'll go out on a limb here and guess the dog didn't have much of a problem with this abuse.

I'm guessing. I have no knowledge of this subject.

Clearly. You do now that humans can often exhibit signs of sexual arousal while being raped too right? Does that make it ok?

Jimoslimos

Oracle wrote: »

There's another very important issue raised by this case. Why should anyone be charged with anything when the sexual encounter was reportedly, consensual and mutually arranged, albeit one that had an unfortunate outcome.

I think we should be very careful before projecting human morals regarding sexual behaviour onto animals.

In these types of cases I generally feel more pity for the human participant (assuming it hasn't been actual forced rape of the animal) than the animal. There's obviously mental health issues that need to be addressed.

later12

prinz wrote: »

..."mutually agreed" doesn't mean squat.

Unfortunate choice of word.

On the matter of inter-species intercourse, we should note two things.

(1) we actively encourage inter species copulation from an experimental genetic viewpoint, and even as a novelty, with other animals; for example, the tiger x lion: the liger.

(2) We should be careful about correlating rape or sexual assault with manipulation of animal copulation; human beings regularly manipulate animal sexual behaviours and animals do not suffer the same emotional damage that human beings can perceive on foot of such manipulation.

It's still freakin crazy, of course.

Scanlas The 2nd

In the letters in Nancy Friday's books it wasn't uncommon for women to describe their fantasy of sex with animals. This could be more common than we think.

My name is URL

Fratton Fred wrote: »

How big is a dog's knob then?

If it was a horse, or something hung like a donkey then fair enough, but dogs aren't that well endowed ate they?

I think it was an allergic reaction to the dog's semen that killed her

castletownman

Well as the saying goes: "Every dog has it's day"

buck65

This is very embarrassing for the man I think.

mikeym

Must be embarrassing for the dead womans family.

She mustnt have been 100% in the head.

Micky Dolenz

It would be fine if it wasn't for them damn sexy dogs.

ArtyM

Seriously, just how far out of whack does a person's sexual preference need to get before they think to themselves...
'you know, maybe I have some issues that I should get help with'
We all like to spice things up but ffs, at least keep it within your own species!

BlaasForRafa

My name is URL wrote: »

I think it was an allergic reaction to the dog's semen that killed her

She should have made it wear a condom

dj jarvis

mikeym wrote: »

Must be embarrassing for the dead womans family.

She mustnt have been 100% in the head.

as far as i remember she had sons , four of them
cant imagine how they feel - the slagging must be relentless

would imagine they were severly affected by their mothers sexual deviancy
brain melt indeed

TheDriver

What happened to the dog afterwards, is he still alive?

I do find it strange that legally he was found guilty of buggery unless he actually used the dog himself in some manner? But it is vague, I thought he would be found to be guilty for cruelty or something.........

TheDriver

dj jarvis wrote: »

would imagine they were severly affected by their mothers sexual deviancy

I see a very undesirable AH thread: "Who has ever heard their parents at it"............

dj jarvis

TheDriver wrote: »

I see a very undesirable AH thread: "Who has ever heard their parents at it"............

with a dog :eek:

le la rat

All dogs go to heaven rip

danslevent

How is that man going to face going into court, how unbelievably embarrassing! I'd leave to hear his testimony (tv legal word I'm using ignorantly)

Elmer Blooker

Vile. Disgusting. How low can you get?
I'd say a chihuahua.

meoklmrk91

The woman had 4 kids, I feel very sorry for them, everyone was told that she died of cancer until this all came out, The man trained the dog to do this. Last I heard the dog was in the care of Limerick County Council, whether or not that is still the case I don't know.

who_me

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

It would be fine if it wasn't for them damn sexy dogs.

...wandering around naked. What do they expect?

aujopimur

That wan was a bitch