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Exit polls, results, coverage and all things election night.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    MadsL wrote: »
    Breaking news: Romney to seek 2016 Democratic nomination.









    Just heard him called "a liberal" on Fox.

    Id say they are sick.

    Its beautiful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,195 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Duck Soup wrote: »
    What odds legal challenges to the results in Ohio and Florida and possibly Colorado or Virginia as well?
    doubtful.

    I love Rove,

    "Well that gap that was 900 votes.... well it's now 29,000+ .... but there are still more votes to count!"


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's interesting (from a psephological point of view, if nothing else) that Obama may ratchet up a significant margin of victory in the Electoral College while having only a narrow majority in the popular vote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,195 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Jesus even the other pundits on FOX are making fun of Rove now.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,593 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    He's "raising a cautionary note" not saying Obama won't win Ohio. Climb down.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭Duck Soup


    Overheal wrote: »
    doubtful.

    I love Rove,

    "Well that gap that was 900 votes.... well it's now 29,000+ .... but there are still more votes to count!"

    I don't the GOP will challenge the results but some outside group - perhaps one of Rove's own interest groups - might.

    Word is the Romney camp has yet to concede Ohio.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭[-0-]


    This is glorious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭Strongbow10


    Rove is a real piece of work

    Crawling under his rock when confronted by "the best stats guy in the world". The same guy he accused of wildly jumping the gun only minutes earlier :D


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,593 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Obama wins Nevada by 9 points.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Rove is a pox, he is just delaying the inevitable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭Duck Soup




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Concession? Still writing speech.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Even if Obama were to lose Ohio, and if Romney were to win Virginia and Florida (and Alaska), Obama would still have 272.

    So surely it's game over regardless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    It's interesting (from a psephological point of view, if nothing else) that Obama may ratchet up a significant margin of victory in the Electoral College while having only a narrow majority in the popular vote.

    I suppose thats an inherent consequence of the winner-takes-all nature of most of the state electoral college votes

    Its even worse in first past the post parliamentary elections like in the UK where for example, in the 1997 election Labour got 43% of the popular vote but netted 63% of the parliamentary seats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Colorado Obama by 4 points


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 930 ✭✭✭poeticseraphim


    Duck Soup wrote: »


    Well the electorate college system SHOULD be changed...


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,593 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Colorado goes blue. A
    Much worse night for Romney that I expected.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    MadsL wrote: »
    Concession? Still writing speech.

    One thousand one hundred and sixteen, one thousand one hundred and seventeen, one thousand one hundred and eighteen, finished. Yaaaayyy!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,593 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?




    Well the electorate college system SHOULD be changed...

    It should. But this campaign was to win the electoral college not the popular vote. Who's to say Obama wouldn't have won the popular vote if he'd set put his strategy to win it.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 930 ✭✭✭poeticseraphim


    Duck Soup wrote: »
    Rove in meltdown, Trump calling for revolution. This is causing heads to explode.

    I told you..I told you...I said...they will not take it lying down....but no you all said ...thy are reasonable....where is that southern Judge??? The one who said there would b revolution??

    How are they so surprised honestly???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    Trump is an attention-seekign buffoon.

    As for the popular vote, considering that California has not been counted yet, I wouldn't necessarily trust those figures.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,593 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Trump is an attention-seekign buffoon.

    As for the popular vote, considering that California has not been counted yet, I wouldn't necessarily trust those figures.

    It'll be a low turn out in CA as well. The certainty of the state blunts the turnout.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    http://act.watchdog.net/petitions/1818?share_ref=i7NeFTCgWbw
    Mitt Romney is about to become one of the first presidential candidates ever to be charged with violating federal ethics law.

    United Automobile Workers (UAW) and Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) are preparing to launch an official lawsuit against Romney for hiding between 15.3 to 111.5 million dollars from the auto industry bailout in his wife Anne’s “blind” trust to conceal the gain and reduce taxes on it.

    Hello?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    Posters on freerepublic.com blaming their prayers or lack-there-of for losing.

    Clutching at all the straws. Sad really.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,593 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Virginia about to go blue as well.

    Florida not far behind.

    Come on Mitt, concede so I can go to bed.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭ascanbe


    They don't need to be right about everything. There are enough Americans who think they are right about enough policies to make their candidates viable. They then proceed to sabotage themselves, usually by saying something which alienates those who would otherwise vote for them.

    Perhaps so..
    Oh, well.
    Guess the republican social-welfare program, the military-industrial-complex as prophesised by Eishenhower, may take a bit of a hit.
    Hopefully a permanent one.
    Understand that you're partial.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,465 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Brian? wrote: »

    It'll be a low turn out in CA as well. The certainty of the state blunts the turnout.

    That could be one of the advantages of having all the propositions. The presidential vote may be pretty academic, but if I show up at the polling station I get to say if my taxes will go up or not, it's still a good incentive to vote. And if I'm there, I may as well tick the box for president.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Randy Marsh is gonna party tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭sink


    As a side note apparently Colorado has just become the first state to vote for legalising marijuana, I didn't even know that was been voted on. AFAIK it will still be illegal at a federal level regardless.

    Edit:- link http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/06/amendment-64-passes-in-co_n_2079899.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭eVeNtInE


    This post has been deleted.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Whoo! MJ now legal in Colorado!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭Duck Soup


    There's a big crowd waiting for Romney. What does he do? Does he make a concession speech? Does he tell them he'll wait till things are definite? Does he just wait it out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Duck Soup wrote: »
    There's a big crowd waiting for Romney. What does he do? Does he make a concession speech? Does he tell them he'll wait till things are definite? Does he just wait it out?

    Gone on a mission to Paris?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭[-0-]


    Virginia won me 2580 tonight as long as Barry stays ahead there. Nate is a bloody witch!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,593 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Duck Soup wrote: »
    There's a big crowd waiting for Romney. What does he do? Does he make a concession speech? Does he tell them he'll wait till things are definite? Does he just wait it out?

    He has to concede soon. The gap is widening in Ohio, Florida and Virginia. He must be writing the speech.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,593 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    [Quote=[-0-];81623488]Virginia won me 2580 tonight as long as Barry stays ahead there. Nate is a bloody witch![/Quote]

    That must be some accumulator you did.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    CNN calls VA for Obama.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    MadsL wrote: »
    Whoo! MJ now legal in Colorado!!!

    This. Amazed tbh, fairly decent margin on the prop to legalise weed.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Obama will win the popular vote.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,195 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Official: Romney is still finishing up his concession speech, aides admitting he only prepared an acceptance speech.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭Duck Soup


    So far, Romney has picked up only two states that McCain didn't in 2008, North Carolina and Indiana.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭Duck Soup


    Romney to make his speech in 7 minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Overheal wrote: »
    Official: Romney is still finishing up his concession speech, aides admitting he only prepared an acceptance speech.

    How do you spell hubris?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,195 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Montana given to Romney. Mmm, I want Bison meat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭Duck Soup


    Obama projected to win Colorado by Fox and to win Virginia by CBS.

    Word is Romney has already called President Obama to concede.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Phone call made accordin to Obama aide


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,465 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    ascanbe wrote: »
    Perhaps so..
    Oh, well.
    Guess the republican social-welfare program, the military-industrial-complex as prophesised by Eishenhower, may take a bit of a hit.
    Hopefully a permanent one.
    Understand that you're partial.

    Seriously? Partiality doesn't enter into this, unless you are so partial that you believe that no sane person could ever take a Republican seriously.

    How many races have been thrown by Republican gaffes? Look at Brown in Massachussets: He was not under particularly significant threat until he went and started attacking his opposition on a personal level. We have our infamous "Rape pregnancy is God's will" candidate, who went and threw that one pretty effectively. Romney didn't do himself any favours at all with the 47% comment. And so on.

    You can then go at a higher level, and look at how Romney, originally seen as a fairly well-thought-of centrist started acting more socially conservative around Primary season, then tried to move back centrist again. Independents aren't stupid, they see this as simple dishonest pandering. Had Romney not felt compelled to please the base (who, I should add, were never convinced anyway) and thus irrevocably distanced himself from the independents, we could be looking at a different race this evening.

    Whatever the faults the Democrats have, not shooting themselves in the foot too badly is not one of them. I don't believe the Democrats as much as won the independent vote today as much as the Republicans managed to alienate them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 930 ✭✭✭poeticseraphim


    MadsL wrote: »

    WOW....I knew he was an ass but well its official...pretty damning for the GOP...as if that has not already happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,195 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Whatever the faults the Democrats have, not shooting themselves in the foot too badly is not one of them. I don't believe the Democrats as much as won the independent vote today as much as the Republicans managed to alienate them.
    Indeed. For me, and I'm sure the sentiment carries across the country tonight, this was a fight between two candidates who don't have a clear plan to help fix the economy. The President has added trillions to the debt, yet Romney can't clearly explain what should be simple math on how he plans to turn our debt around while lowering taxes and increasing spending. In the end I voted for neither candidate, but I wager plenty other independents sided with Obama on other issues, particularly the health care. Romney promised a day one agenda of dismantling Obamacare, which would have been just a very large headache for many American families. Negative campaigning helped too, oddly, because it was spurred on by PACs more so than ever before, which allowed the candidates to run a negative campaign behind a veil of detachment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭ascanbe


    Seriously? Partiality doesn't enter into this, unless you are so partial that you believe that no sane person could ever take a Republican seriously.

    How many races have been thrown by Republican gaffes? Look at Brown in Massachussets: He was not under particularly significant threat until he went and started attacking his opposition on a personal level. We have our infamous "Rape pregnancy is God's will" candidate, who went and threw that one pretty effectively. Romney didn't do himself any favours at all with the 47% comment. And so on.

    You can then go at a higher level, and look at how Romney, originally seen as a fairly well-thought-of centrist started acting more socially conservative around Primary season, then tried to move back centrist again. Independents aren't stupid, they see this as simple dishonest pandering. Had Romney not felt compelled to please the base (who, I should add, were never convinced anyway) and thus irrevocably distanced himself from the independents, we could be looking at a different race this evening.

    Whatever the faults the Democrats have, not shooting themselves in the foot too badly is not one of them. I don't believe the Democrats as much as won the independent vote today as much as the Republicans managed to alienate them.

    Can't disagree with anything you wrote there.
    In fact, i think you're spot on in your analysis.
    Just reacted 'cause you seemed partial..
    I really don't care though 'cause i believe that banking interests rule everything and that the puppets that represent them are interchangable.
    Until that changes, nothing changes..
    I know that sounds like conspiracy theory bull**** if looked at superficially.
    But when you think about it, and when you look into it, isn't it obvious?


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