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The Y Word

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭yiddo59


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20229332

    When Clattenburg tells his side of the story The Society of Black Lawyers are gonna look even more stupid than Chelsea will!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭Leinstersqspur


    Hatch99 wrote: »

    First the idiot Baddiel and now these guys. YIDDOS!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭yiddo59


    from the Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/nov/07/tottenham-society-black-lawyers-abuse
    Tottenham defend supporters over claims of anti-Semitic abuse

    • Society of Black Lawyers take issue with use of 'Y-word'
    • 'Our fans adopt the chant in order to own the term,' say Spurs

    Tottenham have defended their supporters after the Society of Black Lawyers threatened to make a complaint to police over claims that anti-Semitic abuse is taking place at White Hart Lane.

    Although widely recognised as an insult, some Spurs fans proudly call themselves "Yids" or "Yiddos" and chant "Yid army" at games as an act of defiance to those who discriminate against the club's large Jewish following.

    Peter Herbert, who chairs the Society of Black Lawyers, believes this is not acceptable. He said: "It does not make a difference if it is Tottenham fans doing the chants or away fans – if they continue to do it we will report it to the police. There has to be zero tolerance and if that catches out Spurs then so be it."

    Asked about Jewish fans themselves singing the chant, he said: "That's not acceptable either."

    He said: "If neither Tottenham FC nor the FA are willing to take a stand then SBL will report the matter to the Metropolitan Police Service for investigation and, if necessary, prosecution. The report will be made if this behaviour does not cease by 20 November. We will have monitors in attendance to observe what occurs."

    Spurs responded to Herbert's claims by defending their fans and pointing out that their fans have in the past been subjected to taunts about the Holocaust.

    "Our position on this topic is very clear," a Tottenham statement read. "The club does not tolerate any form of racist or abusive chanting. Our guiding principle in respect of the 'Y-word' is based on the point of law itself – the distinguishing factor is the intent with which it is used – if it is used with the deliberate intention to cause offence. This has been the basis of prosecutions of fans of other teams to date.

    "Our fans adopted the chant as a defence mechanism in order to own the term and thereby deflect anti-Semitic abuse. They do not use the term to others to cause any offence, they use it a chant amongst themselves.

    "The club believes that real anti-Semitic abuse such as hissing to simulate the noise of gas chambers is the real evil and the real offence. We believe this is the area that requires a determined and concerted effort from all parties and where we seek greater support to eradicate."

    Racism has been a major issue within the game over the last few weeks. The Chelsea captain John Terry was banned for four matches for racially abusing Anton Ferdinand – although he was cleared of criminal charges – and two weeks ago the European champions became embroiled in another race row when they accused the referee Mark Clattenburg of using "inappropriate language" towards their midfielder Mikel John Obi .

    The language Clattenburg is alleged to have used is understood to have been interpreted as being racist. The referee denies the claim.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭tippspur


    Shower of Idiots,they know nothing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭golfball37


    Is someone gonna tell various Gangsta rappers they can't use the N word I wonder?

    Same thing as telling Jewish Spusrs fans they can't use the Y word.

    IE- A load of sh1te


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    Is a society of black lawyers not racist itself, in that it excludes all non black lawyers?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭Leinstersqspur


    longshanks wrote: »
    Is a society of black lawyers not racist itself, in that it excludes all non black lawyers?

    Hmmmm.... By that logic all representative minority groups are in fact racist themselves....


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭yiddo59


    "Sing what you want! Police back Spurs fans over 'Yid Army' chant after racism claims"


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    YID ARMY!
    i call myself a yid with pride...this is stupid


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭mickman


    Depp wrote: »
    YID ARMY!
    i call myself a yid with pride...this is stupid

    Are you a jew?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭Ormus


    Sign this petition to get "Yid" into the Oxford dictionary meaning "A Tottenham football fan"

    http://www.gopetition.co.uk/petitions/get-yid-into-the-dictionary-tottenham-football-fan.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Equium


    longshanks wrote: »
    Is a society of black lawyers not racist itself, in that it excludes all non black lawyers?

    Pretty much. I don't see how chairing an organisation which operates on the basis of skin colour, and is therefore divisive in itself, can be acceptable for a guy who rightly wants to kick racism out of football. Imagine the uproar if someone started a Society of White Layers.

    The guy has noble aims, but implementing race quotas, setting up segregated player's unions and trying to stop non-offensive chanting by fans are hardly the steps needed to achieve them.


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