Are parents who get their kids ears pierced selfish?

cowzerp

Surprised nobody mentioned the risk of said baby getting their ear ripped off if it caught in something as they run by etc, It's just tacky and needless.

LordSutch

LordSutch wrote: »

Babies with earrings, NO no no Its just plane wrong.

Unless of course you are from South America or some other place where it is tradition.

Well in fairness either it's not good for the kid or it's harmless. Tradition isn't much of an excuse, same as it isn't for FGM. No I am not comparing the two I am saying tradition isn't an excuse.

eviltwin

It looks tacky, chavvy and skangery. No need for it either. The child can make his or her own decision when they are older.

HeyThereDeliah

eviltwin wrote: »

It looks tacky, chavvy and skangery. No need for it either. The child can make his or her own decision when they are older.

You can say this about everything to do with children, do they play football, do they do ballet, do they eat veg, parents have to make some decisions, you cannot wait until the child is old enough to make every decision for themselves.

cowzerp

HeyThereDeliah wrote: »

You can say this about everything to do with children, do they play football, do they do ballet, do they eat veg, parents have to make some decisions, you cannot wait until the child is old enough to make every decision for themselves.

If you bring the kid to football and they hate it people are hardly going to force them to keep it up.

charlietheminxx

Laughing at the Georges St arcade comments - my god the memories.... and the faint scars Oddly enough though, a couple of mine actually healed well, but I must have just been lucky. I know better now!

I was 9 when I first got mine done. I had been begging for about 2 years though. If I had a daughter, I would wait until she was old enough to ask for them and to understand the responsibility of looking after a piercing.

mel1

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

I mean when their kid is a few months old and the parents get their ears pierced just so they can have a 'prettier' baby with a shiny earring.

The kid has no say and has to go through a bit of pain just because their mother wanted them to have a better appearance.

Selfish, probaly not the right word,

Prettier, definatly not the right word!

Drakares

Selfish Chavish - yes.

PizzamanIRL

dark crystal wrote: »

Well if you think about it, the piercing is not something the baby wants or needs, it's done by the parent/s who (somehow) find it aesthetically pleasing to them.

But yes, idiotic and unnecessary would be exactly how I'd describe it too. Punching a hole through a young child's ear for no reason other than to stick a piece of jewellery in is a pretty cruel thing to do imo.

Looks awful too.

mel1 wrote: »

Selfish, probaly not the right word,

Prettier, definatly not the right word!

The bolded part pretty much sums up how I wanted to say it.

So it's selfish because the parents are doing what they want, not caring what the child wants.

dark crystal

HeyThereDeliah wrote: »

You can say this about everything to do with children, do they play football, do they do ballet, do they eat veg, parents have to make some decisions, you cannot wait until the child is old enough to make every decision for themselves.

Exercise and a balanced diet are crucial to a child's health and wellbeing - of course a parent will do these things.

There is no benefit whatsoever to the child of having it's ears pierced. It's painful and pointless.
At least wait until the child is old enough to consent to having a bloody hole punched through their ear!

HeyThereDeliah

cowzerp wrote: »

If you bring the kid to football and they hate it people are hardly going to force them to keep it up.

What age do they start football? I think parents encourage kids to do stuff or even bribe them into playing sport or doing irish dancing.
Have you seen that programme tantrums and tiaras.?

mel1

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

The bolded part pretty much sums up how I wanted to say it.

So it's selfish because the parents are doing what they want, not caring what the child wants.

To my mind Selfish refers to taking interest in oneself, so i only mean a different word might be more sutitable. I dont disagree with you!

gobnaitolunacy

'Dumbass' I believe is the word that you're looking for.

cowzerp

HeyThereDeliah wrote: »

What age do they start football? I think parents encourage kids to do stuff or even bribe them into playing sport or doing irish dancing.
Have you seen that programme tantrums and tiaras.?

can start at any age, but its rare you go see nippers playing football and hating it-bribed or not, Plus their not left with a hole in their ear.

Sunnyisland

Reading all the outrage here,bit over the top in my opinion.
My granddaughter who is 3 has two small studs in her ears is neither a skanger.looks tacky or at the end of no social ladder,She has lovely long golden/blonde hair and is quite beautiful,They are doing her no harm at all just like they haven't done to her mother.

Brain Stroking

realies wrote: »

Reading all the outrage here,bit over the top in my opinion.
My granddaughter who is 3 has two small studs in her ears is neither a skanger.looks tacky or at the end of no social ladder,She has lovely long golden/blonde hair and is quite beautiful,They are doing her no harm at all just like they haven't done to her mother.

I guarantee it looks tacky

Sunnyisland

Brain Stroking wrote: »

I guarantee it looks tacky

I am telling you it doesn't.

AulBiddy

I've had mine done since I was six, and as a child I couldn't have cared less whether they were pierced or not.
I don't come from a skangery/knacker background either.
I have my ears done twice now and I couldn't be happier.

Sunnyisland

It seems its just in Ireland/afterhours that it seems wrong, A lot of Spanish/portuguese/Italian children have theres done from a very early age, No problems there.

Princess Peach

I cry when I see a baby in Claires getting pierced. How anyone can think of bringing a piercing gun near a baby is beyond me.

So yes inflicting pain a bad method of piercing on a baby so they can look more like you want them to is selfish.

Claires makes me vomit that they don't have any age restrictions. And use guns. I freakin hate that place!

theteal

I think I agree with the general consensus here, it looks dire on infants and it would mostly be seen certain socio-economic groups in Ireland. At what age does it become "acceptable" though? I'm reading realies description of the 3yr old and tbh it does not sound "chavy" at all - obviously were stupid big hoops involved or were it a boy (oooh discrimination!), it would be different.

It does look terrible on infants and I think I would go along with the selfish description. The child can, however, take them out whenever they feel like it though, so it's not the worst thing that a lot of Irish parents do without the child's consent.

Teyla Emmagan

It's a tacky and disgusting practice IMO. Sorry realies, but I'm sure your granddaughter (who sounds gorgeous) would be even more beautiful without her studs.

Can't believe Claire's has no age restrictions on ear piercing, that is terrible!!!

This is the sort of stuff that should be in the Children's Referendum, along with banning slutty clothes for preteens, padded bikinis for little girls and anything with the Playboy logo on it. There's far too much sexualisation of kids already (particularly girls sadly). Ear piercing is just another part of that.

PlainP

I would wait until the child is old enough to understand that they will have holes in their ears for the rest of their lives before piercing them.

It is unnecessary and imo looks horrid on an infant. It's only for the gratification of the parent and does nothing for the well-being of the child.

Star Lord

Anyone that thinks it's ok, I'd advise them to have a bit of a read up about piercing guns, and why they are so bad. It's horrific to use those things on anyone, never mind a helpless infant.

spankysue

I don't think it's selfish but it's definitely stupid and a horrible thing to do to a young baby, you wouldn't get your baby tattooed, don't go piercing it ffs.

WindSock

I had my toddlers' nipples pierced last month and he loves it!

--LOS--

I dunno if selfish is the word but it's downright irresponsible, nobody should be getting pierced with a piercing gun, it's completely unhygienic.

Fr_Dougal

WindSock wrote: »

I had my toddlers' nipples pierced last month and he loves it!

That's nothing, this is what I had done to mine.

af_thefragile

I like drawing penis and writing profanity on my toddlers!

Allyall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx36uoOcT3g

Good Jesus. Follow some of the videos after.. Kids for Beauty Pageants..

poppyvally

Super-Rush wrote: »

Tone down the aggression and abuse if you want to contribute any more to this thread

yeah," the usual must" have a well paid job to afford this

Vicar in a tutu

Hardly selfish or irresponsible, If it's with a sterile needle or whatever, irresponsible would be getting it tattooed. Perhaps its a better idea than waiting till they're 9 or 10 and terrified of getting it done but really want it done, It's a tiny pinch!

EoghanIRL

Skangers go it to their kids I'd say

Vicar in a tutu

EoghanIRL wrote: »

Skangers go it to their kids I'd say

A very sweeping generalization there.

EoghanIRL

Vicar in a tutu wrote: »

A very sweeping generalization there.

So?

Vicar in a tutu

EoghanIRL wrote: »

So?

Cant I make that comment?

keepkeyyellow

I view it as circumcising a baby. I'd rather it be done when they can't remember.

It's not like it causes them any (long lasting) pain or discomfort and they'll be the coolest kid when it comes to play school.

EoghanIRL

Vicar in a tutu wrote: »

Cant I make that comment?

I never said you couldn't

Syllabus

realies wrote: »

Reading all the outrage here,bit over the top in my opinion.
My granddaughter who is 3 has two small studs in her ears is neither a skanger.looks tacky or at the end of no social ladder,She has lovely long golden/blonde hair and is quite beautiful,They are doing her no harm at all just like they haven't done to her mother.

skangers dont know they're skangers

or, at the very least, not going to admit to being one

Vicar in a tutu

Syllabus wrote: »

skangers dont know they're skangers

or, at the very least, not going to admit to being one

2 tiny little pieces of gold or silver in a child's ear makes the parents skangers?:pac: The world would be a very boring place if we were all the same.

The Cool

Thing I don't get about the haters - what person ever regrets their ears being pierced?? It's not the kind of thing that you might end up hating and having to live with. A hole in each ear which was what you were probably going to end up doing at some point anyway. Can't really see any ear-pierced child growing up and thinking, "look what those bastards did to me, I'm ruined!"

kunst nugget

The Cool wrote: »

Thing I don't get about the haters - what person ever regrets their ears being pierced?? It's not the kind of thing that you might end up hating and having to live with. A hole in each ear which was what you were probably going to end up doing at some point anyway. Can't really see any ear-pierced child growing up and thinking, "look what those bastards did to me, I'm ruined!"

What about the psychological damage that could be caused when that baby grows up to be an adult and looks through her childhood photos and realises that she looked like a knacker in all of them.

4zn76tysfajdxp

keepkeyyellow wrote: »

I view it as circumcising a baby. I'd rather it be done when they can't remember.

It's not like it causes them any (long lasting) pain or discomfort and they'll be the coolest kid when it comes to play school.

There are so, so many things wrong with that post.

conorhal

Kids these days, for some people, constitute little more then a fashion accessory, which is why so many of them grow up to be as vaccuous, pointless and as full of **** as a Channel handbag.

God be with the days when they were bred for a useful purpose, like cheap labor!

Princess Peach

keepkeyyellow wrote: »

I view it as circumcising a baby. I'd rather it be done when they can't remember.

It's not like it causes them any (long lasting) pain or discomfort and they'll be the coolest kid when it comes to play school.

And if the baby's ears are damaged by an untrained sales assistant at the jewelers using a non sterile, brute force piercing gun?

And a reputable piercer won't properly pierce a young child as their ears aren't suitable for it. They aren't turning away business for the laugh, they know better!

Star Lord

Vicar in a tutu wrote: »

Hardly selfish or irresponsible, If it's with a sterile needle or whatever, irresponsible would be getting it tattooed. Perhaps its a better idea than waiting till they're 9 or 10 and terrified of getting it done but really want it done, It's a tiny pinch!

It's not "with a sterile needle or whatever", it's with a piece of **** "piercing gun", that cannot be properly disinfected, and is used on everyone and anyone that wanders into those shops (Mostly "Claire's") to get pierced. :mad:

http://tattoo.about.com/cs/psafety/a/piercing_guns.htm

lounakin

I am amazed at this post... so many people don't realise how important the element of tradition is. Just like anything you'd do here for tradition! Just because there is some slight discomfort, (MUCH less than later in life) all of you are freaking out. It's much less painful then a lot of things we put our children through.
And the 'kids these days are accessories' argument is quite ignorant when you consider families who've pierced their baby's ears for generations and generations.
Get over yourselves! Just because you're not familiar with the custom doesn't mean it's wrong.

mel1

DamoElDiablo wrote: »

It's not "with a sterile needle or whatever", it's with a piece of **** "piercing gun", that cannot be properly disinfected, and is used on everyone and anyone that wanders into those shops (Mostly "Claire's") to get pierced. :mad:

http://tattoo.about.com/cs/psafety/a/piercing_guns.htm[/QUOTE]

Ah for gods sake every person in the country has been having their ears peirced by guns for about forty years, dont ever recall anyone dying from it.

Body piercers just want the whole market to themselves and i suppose to charge the earth for it aswell. And NO i dont work in Claires or pierce ears and have 14 ear holes all done with a pierceing gun and am still able to write this post!

Princess Peach

Every piercing I ever got with a gun got infected anyway. Never had any trouble with the ones I got done in piercing studios.

Leaving lobes out of it, piercing anywhere else on the body with a gun is so dangerous and stupid and can shatter cartilage and can leave permanent damage to the area.

And you want to talk about body piercers making a profit? It costs about 50c to pierce someone with a un-sanitized gun, most jewelers charge about €25 including the cheap studs.
Most piercers I have ever seen charge about that for 2 lobes, which includes the cost of their single use needles.

PlainP

lounakin wrote: »

I am amazed at this post... so many people don't realise how important the element of tradition is. Just like anything you'd do here for tradition! Just because there is some slight discomfort, (MUCH less than later in life) all of you are freaking out. It's much less painful then a lot of things we put our children through.
And the 'kids these days are accessories' argument is quite ignorant when you consider families who've pierced their baby's ears for generations and generations.
Get over yourselves! Just because you're not familiar with the custom doesn't mean it's wrong.

Just because something is traditional doesn't make it right. I could go on about male and female genital mutilation happening within tradition but that would be for another thread I think.