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I've just punched a child

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    9 out of 10, OP. One point docked for not roaring "FALCAWWWWWN PUNCHHHHHHH!" as you did it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭sconhome


    Big Bottom wrote: »
    But if he ran away without punching him it would of had the same effect.

    Maybe it was just a reaction and hes not usually so violent but it is the congratulations that surprised me more.

    You obviously didnt see the Late Late show with the girl who was slashed on O'Connell Street. She tried to avoid a serious incident where she felt threatened and walked away.

    She was followed and horribly assaulted and is quite obviously traumatised for a long time to come.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭jarvis


    Only last week, I was a jurer in a case where someone pulled a knife and was convisted of possesion of a dangerous weapon with intent to harm or intimidate under the firearms and lethal weapons legislation of 1990.
    It's a really serious crime.
    In the case, the vistim used an iron bar and knocked the guy unsoncious and nobody even questiones wether or not that was an issue, even the defending barrister didn't argue that point.

    what you did OP was completely acceptable in the eyes of normal civilisation and the law, so don't fear reporting it. The next potential victim might not have as nice a story to tell as you do!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 roo21


    excuses excuse!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    Glad you're feeling a bit better OP.

    Totally on your side.

    From bitter personal experience am posting.
    So the local gaurds know this is going on.
    They say they know the knife carfying knacker.
    Yet they havnt done anything about him yet - and now you've been threatened with a knife .

    From your post they havnt taken a statement so there is no record of this to protect you in case of future problems, or anyone else he might attack.

    And the knife wielding knacker walks free
    And you being the victim of a knife attack is unrecorded + shows nowhete on Gaurd unsolved crime stats or violent attsck stats.

    Just as well you protected yourself because the paid state authorites are clearly doing foi.g nothing.

    No need to worry about a Yes or No vote. Noones going to come + take this child from his parents.

    And the gaurds are snoozing at their desks playing I dont care - as usual.

    No wonder so many people agree totally with what you did to defenf yourself.


    Get well soon : )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,870 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Big Bottom wrote: »
    But if he ran away without punching him it would of had the same effect.

    Maybe it was just a reaction and hes not usually so violent but it is the congratulations that surprised me more.

    100% correct. Run away from scumbag with knife.

    Scumbag will realise error of ways and change his habits forever.

    Or....scumbag will attempt to rob the next person he sees.

    You did the right thing OP...child or no child....filthy little fcuker could have cut you to pieces.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Once he landed on his back you should have gone down a punched him square in the face a few more times...just to be sure the little fu cker wouldn't forget it in a hurry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    CJC999 wrote: »
    Once he landed on his back you should have gone down a punched him square in the face a few more times...just to be sure the little fu cker wouldn't forget it in a hurry.

    But then the title of the thread would probably be "I've just murdered a child".


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭the culture of deference


    CJC999 wrote: »
    Once he landed on his back you should have gone down a punched him square in the face a few more times...just to be sure the little fu cker wouldn't forget it in a hurry.
    Could a person be taken to court for assaulting a mugger?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭Niles


    Wow. Talk about an inspirational thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,007 ✭✭✭mad m




  • Site Banned Posts: 154 ✭✭EEm


    What if the child was struggling for food and thought this was the only option. Punch the child though, he has a knife. Didn't need to punch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,921 ✭✭✭gifted


    EEm wrote: »
    What if the child was struggling for food and thought this was the only option. Punch the child though, he has a knife. Didn't need to punch.

    fu*k him...snap the little scumbags spine and give him the smile and 2 fingers every time he wheels past you...well done again OP


  • Site Banned Posts: 154 ✭✭EEm


    gifted wrote: »
    fu*k him...snap the little scumbags spine and give him the smile and 2 fingers every time he wheels past you...well done again OP

    You see, the way it comes across is a dirty little scumbag with his pants tucked into his socks wearing a Burbary cap and saying "he-rah, i'll stick' this in ya bud" or whatever.

    It was a kid ffs, who's to say he's not living off the street just looking to survive. Why punch a kid, why not kick the knife out of his hand.

    A grown man punching a kid is so so bad.




  • You obviously didnt see the Late Late show with the girl who was slashed on O'Connell Street. She tried to avoid a serious incident where she felt threatened and walked away.

    She was followed and horribly assaulted and is quite obviously traumatised for a long time to come.

    Could you link to the story? I hadn't heard about that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,921 ✭✭✭gifted


    EEm wrote: »
    You see, the way it comes across is a dirty little scumbag with his pants tucked into his socks wearing a Burbary cap and saying "he-rah, i'll stick' this in ya bud" or whatever.

    It was a kid ffs, who's to say he's not living off the street just looking to survive. Why punch a kid, why not kick the knife out of his hand.

    A grown man punching a kid is so so bad.

    As opposed to threatening someone with a knife??...Hello Mr. ambulance man, what happened? this kid threatened me with a knife but sure he was prob hungry, tried to kick the knife out of his hand but he seemed very handy with the knife, I didn't see him come towards me and cut my face to bits..but sure he was prob hungry,poor kid :rolleyes:..


  • Site Banned Posts: 154 ✭✭EEm


    gifted wrote: »
    As opposed to threatening someone with a knife??...Hello Mr. ambulance man, what happened? this kid threatened me with a knife but sure he was prob hungry, tried to kick the knife out of his hand but he seemed very handy with the knife, I didn't see him come towards me and cut my face to bits..but sure he was prob hungry,poor kid :rolleyes:..

    10 year old kid. 10 years old. He wasn't able push the kid away? No, he punched a 10 year old kid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    "I've just punched a face, I can't forget the time or place where we just met.."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭OU812


    EEm wrote: »
    10 year old kid. 10 years old. He wasn't able push the kid away? No, he punched a 10 year old kid.

    For what it's worth. I wasn't bragging about it. I don't think the kid was starving either. Not to mention the fact that a starving child who goes straight to armed mugging, rather than shoplift etc pretty much needs a corrective lesson anyway. If it was his first time (I don't think it was), hopefully it'll be his last, if it wasn't his first time, again, hopefully it'll be his last.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 250 ✭✭Funky G


    EEm wrote: »
    10 year old kid. 10 years old. He wasn't able push the kid away? No, he punched a 10 year old kid.

    because the 10 year old kid had a knife.....

    what would you expect the OP to do?

    God, you're on your own here EEm....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭Ronin247


    OU812 wrote: »
    For what it's worth. I wasn't bragging about it. I don't think the kid was starving either. Not to mention the fact that a starving child who goes straight to armed mugging, rather than shoplift etc pretty much needs a corrective lesson anyway. If it was his first time (I don't think it was), hopefully it'll be his last, if it wasn't his first time, again, hopefully it'll be his last.

    Don't let the pc brigade get you down....if it was most of us it would be the little f*ckers last time because he would have been stamped on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 853 ✭✭✭Pappa Charlie


    OP, you probaly gave him one of the best lessons he could get in life and if he dose'nt learn from it he'll get worse in time to come!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Remmy


    EEm wrote: »
    What if the child was struggling for food and thought this was the only option. Punch the child though, he has a knife. Didn't need to punch.

    How much pressure or strength do you think it takes to inflict a lot of damage to someone with a knife? Feck all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭Ronin247


    EEm wrote: »
    You see, the way it comes across is a dirty little scumbag with his pants tucked into his socks wearing a Burbary cap and saying "he-rah, i'll stick' this in ya bud" or whatever.
    Pretty sure that was what it was

    It was a kid ffs, who's to say he's not living off the street just looking to survive. Why punch a kid, why not kick the knife out of his hand.
    Probably because the op isnt Chuck Norris

    A grown man punching a kid is so so bad.
    If the little f*ckers parents had punched him in time he wouldnt be out mugging people at knife point



    Eem it is people like you that cause our justice system to give these scumbags repeated chances till they finally do kill someone, and then you will be on about how society let them down..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭grizzly




  • Site Banned Posts: 154 ✭✭EEm


    a 10 year old kid isn't a scumbag. it's a 10 year old kid. they don't know any better. and doubt the punch is going to stop any more muggins, probably will cause the kid to stab sooner than he would.

    What if the kid was a girl?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    are you seriously suggesting that you didnt know the difference between right and wrong at aged 10?


  • Site Banned Posts: 154 ✭✭EEm


    BBDBB wrote: »
    are you seriously suggesting that you didnt know the difference between right and wrong at aged 10?

    I've never been struggling to survive, possibly like the kid.

    There were numerous ways to get out of the situation, without punching a 10 year old, a palm to the face would even do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    EEm wrote: »
    I've never been struggling to survive, possibly like the kid.

    There were numerous ways to get out of the situation, without punching a 10 year old, a palm to the face would even do.

    so what did you mean by "they dont know any better"?


  • Registered Users Posts: 404 ✭✭dukedalton


    EEm wrote: »
    a 10 year old kid isn't a scumbag. it's a 10 year old kid. they don't know any better. and doubt the punch is going to stop any more muggins, probably will cause the kid to stab sooner than he would.

    What if the kid was a girl?

    And if it was you that was the victim of this attempted mugging, would you be as soft in your description of the perpetrator?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭OU812


    EEm wrote: »
    What if the kid was a girl?

    Lemme make this clear for you. I punched the "person" holding a knife out, with the point at me. I had an automatic reaction & punched them in the face, if they were taller it probably would have been the throat, chest or stomach, (depending on height obviously). Their gender had nothing to do with it. It was automatic.

    On Friday, I was horrified, however, two days later, I'm glad I did it. I have no idea if I would or could do it again, but I like to think if anyone threatens me (or those I care about) again, I'd have the fortitude to do it again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Castor Oil


    What a disgusting thread. I wish I hadn't read it. The whole incident is shocking and sad, for both the OP and the child involved. Seriously, this kind of thread makes me weep for humanity....what a fúcked up way for adults to respond. Assaulting a child on impulse is one thing, the big circle jerk of congratulations is a million times worse.


  • Site Banned Posts: 154 ✭✭EEm


    There's self defence and there's excessive force.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭dirkmeister


    EEm wrote: »
    There's self defence and there's excessive force.

    The OP said that the mugger threatened to "stick him".
    What would be an appropriate response to that?

    One punch was not excessive at all imo.


  • Site Banned Posts: 154 ✭✭EEm


    The OP said that the mugger threatened to "stick him".
    What would be an appropriate response to that?

    One punch was not excessive at all imo.

    10 year old kid. 10 years old. 10.

    so let the op tell us what situation the kid was left in. broken jaw? broken nose?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    EEm wrote: »
    10 year old kid. 10 years old. 10.

    so let the op tell us what situation the kid was left in. broken jaw? broken nose?


    a little wiser regarding the possible consequences of commiting criminal activities perhaps?


  • Registered Users Posts: 404 ✭✭dukedalton


    EEm wrote: »
    10 year old kid. 10 years old. 10.

    so let the op tell us what situation the kid was left in. broken jaw? broken nose?

    Yeah, I know for definite that's what would be at the forefront of my thinking if I was lying in my hospital bed with my stab wounds :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭tempura


    Castor Oil wrote: »
    What a disgusting thread. I wish I hadn't read it. The whole incident is shocking and sad, for both the OP and the child involved. Seriously, this kind of thread makes me weep for humanity....what a fúcked up way for adults to respond. Assaulting a child on impulse is one thing, the big circle jerk of congratulations is a million times worse.


    The only post on this thread that makes any sense.

    I have an 11 year old boy, how an adult could punch one in the face is beyond me ! There are other way of restraining a child who is out of control or dangerous ! I could hold my son back with one hand if I had too !

    Poor kid, what kind of family has he come from to make him attack someone with a knife ?

    Wonder how many posters on this thread actually bothered their arses voting yesterday to try and help kids like this !

    Punching him in the face will achieve nothing at all, just reinforce his need for violence to get through life !

    Some of the comments on here are sickening ! Stamp on his balls, break his spine, you seriously should have a think about what your actually saying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Castor Oil


    BBDBB wrote: »
    a little wiser regarding the possible consequences of commiting criminal activities perhaps?

    Yes, children who get punched in the face by adults often grow up to be very wise.

    I'd be surprised if a child who is robbing at knifepoint at 10 hasn't died by violence or suicide by 16. (Cue the "good riddance" comments.)

    We're talking about a child that probably knows the kind of suffering and abuse at home that we can't even imagine.

    Violent children don't just fall out of the sky; they're created by the adults in their lives.

    The OP contributed to a cycle of violence. I get that he didn't intend to do it, was in a scary situation and felt really upset at having done it. Being upset is the correct response for doing something that is clearly wrong.

    The responses here are revolting. The idea that this wasn't a child? Fúcking denial. This was a child. All of you who've thanked the OP's post lack a basic human trait: compassion.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 404 ✭✭dukedalton


    How many of you coming out with this holier than thou nonsense would be spouting same if you were attacked by a knife-wielding lunatic? Easy to have an enlightened outlook on humanity when your safe at home typing on your laptop; if you were confronted by this scenario on the street I suspect your attitudes might be different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Real Life


    EEm wrote: »
    10 year old kid. 10 years old. 10.

    so let the op tell us what situation the kid was left in. broken jaw? broken nose?

    i dont condone violence in any way, i would always avoid physical confrontation when possible but if someone pulls a knife on you, they need to be knocked out, man, woman or child. they could do serious damage and you really dont know how they are going to react. the only way to end the situation is to make sure they cant do anything. OP did the right thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Castor Oil


    dukedalton wrote: »
    How many of you coming out with this holier than thou nonsense would be spouting same if you were attacked by a knife-wielding lunatic? Easy to have an enlightened outlook on humanity when your safe at home typing on your laptop; if you were confronted by this scenario on the street I suspect your attitudes might be different.

    My problem is not with the OP's action which I honestly believe he did not intend to do (although assaulting a child is clearly wrong), but rather your reaction to it: applause. Wouldn't expect your rodent brain to grasp the finer nuances.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭tempura


    Im surprised this thread hasn't been locked.

    Have any of you so called Mod's given it any thought ?

    You have locked threads for a lot less !


  • Registered Users Posts: 404 ✭✭dukedalton


    Castor Oil wrote: »
    My problem is not with the OP's action which I honestly believe he did not intend to do (although assaulting a child is clearly wrong), but rather your reaction to it: applause. Wouldn't expect your rodent brain to grasp the finer nuances.

    I'm not applauding someone being assaulted; I'm defending someone's right to defend themselves.

    Oh and thanks for your cheap personal insult- it does a lot to advance your argument :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Castor Oil


    dukedalton wrote: »
    I'm not applauding someone being assaulted; I'm defending someone's right to defend themselves.

    Oh and thanks for your cheap personal insult- it does a lot to advance your argument :)

    Not cheap: appropriate. The responses are base and animalistic.

    You are applauding a child being assaulted by an adult.

    Wait, it's not a child, it's a miniature scumbag who should have been kicked too, and had his balls smashed, and spine broken etc etc.

    Grow the fúck up, all of you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    Castor Oil wrote: »
    Yes, children who get punched in the face by adults often grow up to be very wise.

    I'd be surprised if a child who is robbing at knifepoint at 10 hasn't died by violence or suicide by 16. (Cue the "good riddance" comments.)

    We're talking about a child that probably knows the kind of suffering and abuse at home that we can't even imagine.

    Violent children don't just fall out of the sky; they're created by the adults in their lives.

    The OP contributed to a cycle of violence. I get that he didn't intend to do it, was in a scary situation and felt really upset at having done it. Bring upset is the correct response for doing something that is clearly wrong.

    The responses here are revolting. The idea that this wasn't a child? Fúcking denial. This was a child. All of you who've thanked the OP's post lack a basic human trait: compassion.






    decisions have consequences, the mugger may have just learned one that maybe saved his life, thats as likely as the tale you have just spun above


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭tempura


    Real Life wrote: »
    i dont condone violence in any way, i would always avoid physical confrontation when possible but if someone pulls a knife on you, they need to be knocked out, man, woman or child. they could do serious damage and you really dont know how they are going to react. the only way to end the situation is to make sure they cant do anything. OP did the right thing.


    Utter nonsense !

    I said it before, there are other ways to restrain a child that age without resorting to such a violent act.

    A punch to a child that age could result in serious brain damage.

    Although, some posters would probably applaud that also.

    Sick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Castor Oil


    BBDBB wrote: »
    decisions have consequences, the mugger may have just learned one that maybe saved his life, thats as likely as the tale you have just spun above

    You're right, clearly. Violent children get taught lessons by having violence inflicted on them, seriously, that actually makes me laugh! The OP saved the child's life now? Wtf.

    This child will be worse than ever after this. Well done one and all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 404 ✭✭dukedalton


    Castor Oil wrote: »
    Not cheap: appropriate. The responses are base and animalistic.

    You are applauding a child being assaulted by an adult.

    Wait, it's not a child, it's a miniature scumbag who should have been kicked too, and had his balls smashed, and spine broken etc etc.

    Grow the fúck up, all of you.

    Not applauding anything, just supporting the right of someone to stand up for themselves.

    By the way, had the OP just handed over their hard earned cash, what sort of message do you think that would have sent out to the mugger?


  • Registered Users Posts: 404 ✭✭dukedalton


    Castor Oil wrote: »

    This child will be worse than ever after this..


    Whereas if the OP just handed over his wallet, the child see the error of his ways and be inspired to retire from his life of crime :rolleyes:


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