I've just punched a child

case885

Duzzer wrote: »

This thread is a joke at this stage. Close it up mods!

Em i dont find it a joke, i think its highlighting a big problem in todays society and fair play to op for standing up for himself and hopefully taught that coward a lesson

Galwayguy35

Regardless of whether this incident actually happened the fact is that situations like this do happen all over the country on a daily basis.

These weedy little hoodie wearing runts ofton go around in gangs threatening people just going about their daily business or else hang around chippers and video shops trying to intimidate people going in there.

Crooked Jack

OU812 wrote: »

Heading into work, headphones on, head down. A kid about 10 or 12 stepped in front of me @ said something. Took off the headphones & he pulled a knife out & said "gimme yet f**ken' money & phone or F**ken' I'll stick ya".

I've never hit anyone before, don't know where it came from but I just lashed out, punched him straight in the face & he ended up on his back. I legged it & am sitting here, feeling like I'm gonna puke with a very sore hand & legs like jelly.

Someone buy this man a pint, as much for his action as his restraint. Fair play to ya!

phill106

3 more thanks till it hits 1000!
Come on people

Jimmy Iovine

phill106 wrote: »

3 more thanks till it hits 1000!
Come on people

I gave the 1,000th thanks. Do I get a prize?

sparrowcar

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

I gave the 1,000th thanks. Do I get a prize?

A kick in the face?

OU812

Holy crap, over a thousand thanks.

yupya1

Can I try to explain this situation and in turn all of life's events to the quite frankly delusional people on here disagreeing with the action the op took to stop himself from being stabbed.

See the little knacker boy is an Asshole

and the OP might be a Dick...

But you whinging, turn the other cheek, oh god think of the children absolving them of any blame and forever teaching them they are not solely responsible for their actions are Pussies!

Skid

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

I thought I unsubscribed to this thread...

Anywho, scum or not, hitting a child under the age of 18 is child abuse..

Protecting yourself from an individual who is threatening to stab you is most certainly not child abuse, and to describe it as such belittles the expression.

mikemac1

Legend of the boards?

old hippy

yupya1 wrote: »

But you whinging, turn the other cheek, oh god think of the children absolving them of any blame and forever teaching them they are not solely responsible for their actions are Pussies!

Nobody is "turning the other cheek" or "absolving them of any blame". But punching a ten year old, regardless of the context, does not make someone a hero, a board legend or anything remotely similar.

Supraman

what the op did to get himself out of danger was perfectly acceptable in my eyes . What was he supposed to do ? talk this kid out of possibly knifing him ? He got himself out if harms way the best way possible . The only way he'd have gone overboard is if he'd continued giving the kid a beating or turning the knife on the kid .

XxKathyxX

OU812 wrote: »

Heading into work, headphones on, head down. A kid about 10 or 12 stepped in front of me @ said something. Took off the headphones & he pulled a knife out & said "gimme yet f**ken' money & phone or F**ken' I'll stick ya".

I've never hit anyone before, don't know where it came from but I just lashed out, punched him straight in the face & he ended up on his back. I legged it & am sitting here, feeling like I'm gonna puke with a very sore hand & legs like jelly.

When i saw the title i was like, you evil bastard! :mad: Now im like, wwoooooooooooop go you! Take care love! x

xoxo

iFergal

Oh lord, 10 or 12 with a knife? What's the world coming to, lol - nice job!

old hippy

iFergal wrote: »

Oh lord, 10 or 12 with a knife? What's the world coming to, lol - nice job!

Ten year olds and younger have been brandishing weapons since time began. The world has always been this way, unless you live in ivory towers. Child soldiers, child criminals, etc are a tragic fact of life.

"Nice job" - yes, well done, encourage the cycle to continue.

iFergal

old hippy wrote: »

Ten year olds and younger have been brandishing weapons since time began. The world has always been this way, unless you live in ivory towers. Child soldiers, child criminals, etc are a tragic fact of life.

"Nice job" - yes, well done, encourage the cycle to continue.

When I said "what is this world coming to", it was just an expression, lol. I'm aware of the likes of child soldiers, etc.

dodderangler

OU812 wrote: »

Heading into work, headphones on, head down. A kid about 10 or 12 stepped in front of me @ said something. Took off the headphones & he pulled a knife out & said "gimme yet f**ken' money & phone or F**ken' I'll stick ya".

I've never hit anyone before, don't know where it came from but I just lashed out, punched him straight in the face & he ended up on his back. I legged it & am sitting here, feeling like I'm gonna puke with a very sore hand & legs like jelly.

When I first read the title I thought this will be interesting
After readin what happened id like to say that's the biggest load of **** I've ever read
No person would feel guilty for defending themselves no matter who the attacker is
And I've had someone try rob me before with a screwdriver and they never talked like that!

Paddy Cow

old hippy wrote: »

Ten year olds and younger have been brandishing weapons since time began. The world has always been this way, unless you live in ivory towers. Child soldiers, child criminals, etc are a tragic fact of life.

"Nice job" - yes, well done, encourage the cycle to continue.

In fairness, the op reacted to a threat and felt bad afterwards. It's not like the op went out intentionally to punch a "child". If you want to have a go at anyone for encouraging the cycle to continue, you probably have to look no further than the child's parents who will have toughened him up by rearing him in an environment of aggression with physical/verbal abuse. A generalisation on my part yes but usually 10/12 year old kids who grow up in a stable environment don't suddenly pick up a knife one day and threaten a grown man.

Maybe the smack from the op might have thought the kid a lesson that other people will stand up for themselves and he might think twice about doing it again. In that instance, the op has discouraged the cycle to continue. Whatever is going on in that lad's life, the op simply reacted to one moment in it. As others have said, if he had kicked the living daylights out of him, he would be in the wrong. He did what he had to do to get away. I don't know what I would do myself in that situation. Probably crap myself

old hippy

Paddy Cow wrote: »

In fairness, the op reacted to a threat and felt bad afterwards. It's not like the op went out intentionally to punch a "child". If you want to have a go at anyone for encouraging the cycle to continue, you probably have to look no further than the child's parents who will have toughened him up by rearing him in an environment of aggression with physical/verbal abuse. A generalisation on my part yes but usually 10/12 year old kids who grow up in a stable environment don't suddenly pick up a knife one day and threaten a grown man.

Maybe the smack from the op might have thought the kid a lesson that other people will stand up for themselves and he might think twice about doing it again. In that instance, the op has discouraged the cycle to continue. Whatever is going on in that lad's life, the op simply reacted to one moment in it. As others have said, if he had kicked the living daylights out of him, he would be in the wrong. He did what he had to do to get away. I don't know what I would do myself in that situation. Probably crap myself

I hear you but I don't think that kid will suddenly veer towards a stable environment after that episode. He may well gravitate towards guns in the future.

Sulla Felix

old hippy wrote: »

I hear you but I don't think that kid will suddenly veer towards a stable environment after that episode. He may well gravitate towards guns in the future.

So what was the appropriate response do you think? Give him what he asked for? Turn and run, given the child was apparently quite close that risked getting stabbed in the back.
I'm curious what all the naysayers think they would do in his place.

dsmythy

End the cycle by being stabbed and dying on the street? OP maybe not a hero but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta you, even if that involves instinctively smacking a little runt in the face.

BUBBLE WRAP

dsmythy wrote: »

End the cycle by being stabbed and dying on the street? OP maybe not a hero but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta you, even if that involves instinctively smacking a little child in the face.

Fixed that for you!

areyawell

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

Fixed that for you!

How exactly? It doesn't matter if he was 15 or 50. If my life was in danger I would gladly hit a child if he was a little scumbag that threatened to kill me!

BUBBLE WRAP

areyawell wrote: »

How exactly? It doesn't matter if he was 15 or 50. If my life was in danger I would gladly kill a child if he was a little scumbag that was trying to kill me!

a child is defined as anyone under the age of 18.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/birth_family_relationships/children_s_rights_and_policy/children_and_rights_in_ireland.html

"Scumbag" or not, it was a child. No matter what way you or anyone else here try's to change it, to make an attack on a child seem normal. :rolleyes:

dsmythy

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

a child is defined as anyone under the age of 18.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/birth_family_relationships/children_s_rights_and_policy/children_and_rights_in_ireland.html

"Scumbag" or not, it was a child. No matter what way you or anyone else here try's to change it, to make an attack on a child seem normal. :rolleyes:

Hitting a child armed with a knife and of unknown stabbing reliability is a normal reaction when confronted suddenly. Hitting an unarmed runt few would class as normal.

BUBBLE WRAP

dsmythy wrote: »

Hitting a child armed with a knife and of unknown stabbing reliability is a normal reaction when confronted suddenly. Hitting an unarmed runt few would class as normal.

Care to elaborate?

Crann na Beatha

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dsmythy

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

Care to elaborate?

You're walking down the street and are suddenly confronted with someone wielding a knife. Freezing on the spot while being removed of your belongings, running away, and striking out are three legitimate sudden reactions to match the sudden confrontation. Doesn't matter who it is with the knife. But that's just me.

Ush1

Phoenix wrote: »

So when's the medal awarding ceremony for the op?:pac:

It's a serious amount thanks's's's. Give a young scut a clout, boards says thanks!:pac:

areyawell

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

a child is defined as anyone under the age of 18.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/birth_family_relationships/children_s_rights_and_policy/children_and_rights_in_ireland.html

"Scumbag" or not, it was a child. No matter what way you or anyone else here try's to change it, to make an attack on a child seem normal. :rolleyes:

Its normal to defend yourself, regardless of age. What if the child was 16, and was built like a horse and started attacking you? Would you just stand there and left him kick the crap out of you or would you try and defend yourself by hitting him?

OP was in danger and his gut reaction was to hit him. An attack on a child isn't normal. If the child is hitting you or threatening to stab you, you get out of the situation by any means necessary!

Just because they are under 18 does not make them weak or innocent!

BUBBLE WRAP

dsmythy wrote: »

You're walking down the street and are suddenly confronted with someone wielding a knife. Freezing on the spot while being removed of your belongings, running away, and striking out are three legitimate sudden reactions to match the sudden confrontation. Doesn't matter who it is with the knife. But that's just me.

Oh, but it does because it was a child.

BUBBLE WRAP

areyawell wrote: »

Its normal to defend yourself, regardless of age. What if the child was 16, and was built like a horse and started attacking you? Would you just stand there and left him kick the crap out of you or would you try and defend yourself by hitting him?

OP was in danger and his gut reaction was to hit him. An attack on a child isn't normal. If the child is hitting you or threatening to stab you, you get out of the situation by any means necessary!

Just because they are under 18 does not make them weak or innocent!

No, but the jury wouldn't see it as self defense. You're just trying to sugar coat it.

Skid

Ush1 wrote: »

It's a serious amount thanks's's's. Give a young scut a clout, boards says thanks!:pac:

I predict this thread will be locked before the OP becomes the most thanked post ever (I think it was the most thanked of 2012)

It would not look good for Boards to have their most thanked post titled ' I've just punched a child'!

Scanlas The 2nd

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

a child is defined as anyone under the age of 18.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/birth_family_relationships/children_s_rights_and_policy/children_and_rights_in_ireland.html

"Scumbag" or not, it was a child. No matter what way you or anyone else here try's to change it, to make an attack on a child seem normal. :rolleyes:

Sweet Jesus have mercy on your soul.

areyawell

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

No, but the jury wouldn't see it as self defense. You're just trying to sugar coat it.

Of course the jury would see it as self defense!!! Why wouldn't they? Your the one trying to sugar coat it.

dsmythy

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

Oh, but it does because it was a child.

Maybe the law says so and boy do the little tearaways know it. I don't know what my reaction to the same situation would be but just as I wouldn't mock someone for running away from a 10 year old or being robbed by one I wouldn't condemn them for reacting with a single blow.

BUBBLE WRAP

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Sweet Jesus have mercy on your soul.

A very relevant post to this discussion. :rolleyes:

Rangi

OP was confronted by an assailant with a knife, telling him he was going to use the knife on him. He quite rightly defended himself.

Makes no fewking difference what the age of the assailant was.

BUBBLE WRAP

areyawell wrote: »

Of course the jury would see it as self defense!!! Why wouldn't they? Your the one trying to sugar coat it.

Na, when you punch a child, you'll be walking on the green mile... "Dead man walking on the green mile" "Dead man walking on the green mile"

BUBBLE WRAP

Rangi wrote: »

OP was confronted by an assailant with a knife, telling him he was going to use the knife on him. He quite rightly defended himself.

Makes no fewking difference what the age of the assailant was.

LOL! It wasn't saddam hussein. :pac:

areyawell

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

Na, when you punch a child, you'll be walking on the green mile... "Dead man walking on the green mile" "Dead man walking on the green mile"

?? Relevant point. Your just getting annoyed now because you know your wrong.

areyawell

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

LOL! It wasn't saddam hussein. :pac:

Do you think all people under 18 are frail and weak or something?

Grayson

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

LOL! It wasn't saddam hussein. :pac:

If it was, it would've been a zombie. And i think we all know, unless you're wearing thick gloves, you never punch a zombie in the face.

BUBBLE WRAP

areyawell wrote: »

?? Relevant point. Your just getting annoyed now because you know your wrong.

Yup, indeed it is. If you prefer to jump on the bandwagon go on ahead.

My point is though, that it was a child. Clearly when a grown man hits a child armed or not, it not looking good for the "defender".

BUBBLE WRAP

areyawell wrote: »

Do you think all people under 18 are frail and weak or something?

(from the OP) A kid about 10 or 12 stepped in front of me

Not all obviously..

But if it's a "10" or "12" year old, then yes, I do.

BUBBLE WRAP

Grayson wrote: »

If it was, it would've been a zombie. And i think we all know, unless you're wearing thick gloves, you never punch a zombie in the face.

:p

areyawell

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

Not all obviously..

But if it's a "10" or "12" year old, then yes, I do.

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

Yup, indeed it is. If you prefer to jump on the bandwagon go on ahead.

My point is though, that it was a child. Clearly when a grown man hits a child armed or not, it not looking good for the "defender".

It all depends on the situation, if he wasn't carrying a knife you could tell em to **** off. If he tried to attack you, you could just restrain him. If he has a knife that's a different situation all together. And it will look good for the "defendant" regardless of age. Are you that thick?

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/youth-held-after-garda-stabbed-at-festival-1855570.html

I suppose it was that guards fault he got stabbed was it. He should have kicking the crap out of the youth with a baton when he seen the knife.

MonkstownHoop

i'd have punched him twice

Skid

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

Yup, indeed it is. If you prefer to jump on the bandwagon go on ahead.

My point is though, that it was a child. Clearly when a grown man hits a child armed or not, it not looking good for the "defender".

Fair enough. Let the child stab you to death. Go to your grave being smug that nobody will look at you disapprovingly because you defended yourself.

I would choose to defend myself, but that's just me.

Rangi

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

LOL! It wasn't saddam hussein. :pac:

No, he had WMD's. Do you not read the papers?