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how to meet genuine nice men...i know they are out there ..where?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    --Kaiser-- wrote: »

    I think the point was that this is because Eastern European wokmen tend to come from more traditional and patriarchal societies (more or less a fact). Also male death rates seem to be quite a bit higher in these countries (due to suicide, car crashes, alcoholism etc...) so women have to compete over a smaller pool of men. My observation from having known more than a few Eastern European women is that they put a lot more effort into their appearance

    While not exactly Eastern European, I am Slavic. There are couple of things which stand out. Girls in those countries seem to be skinnier and probably a bit more active. The Slavic bone structure tends to help (since they are so popular as models). I'm speaking in general, none of it is really true about me. I know that in Russia finding a sober man can be a bit tricky but when going out girls in Ireland dress up a lot more than in anywhere else in Europe I've been to (20+ countries). Are you saying they are more desperate to find men as most of Europe. It's nonsense, women don't dress up just for men. The biggest fun is to make other women jealous even when you are in a relationship. This is another generalization but it is ridiculous to suggest that any woman is pretty just because they want to find a man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    meeeeh wrote: »
    While not exactly Eastern European, I am Slavic. There are couple of things which stand out. Girls in those countries seem to be skinnier and probably a bit more active. The Slavic bone structure tends to help (since they are so popular as models). I'm speaking in general, none of it is really true about me. I know that in Russia finding a sober man can be a bit tricky but when going out girls in Ireland dress up a lot more than in anywhere else in Europe I've been to (20+ countries). Are you saying they are more desperate to find men as most of Europe. It's nonsense, women don't dress up just for men. The biggest fun is to make other women jealous even when you are in a relationship. This is another generalization but it is ridiculous to suggest that any woman is pretty just because they want to find a man.

    Where did I say 'desperate'? The fact that there are a higher proportion of one gender as opposed to another would increase competition. Nothing more.


    And I don't mean dressing up for going out, I mean looking after their weight more, going to the gym more, paying more attention to their teeth, etc...Now this could be all a cultural 'keeping up with the Jones' type deal also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    --Kaiser-- wrote: »

    Where did I say 'desperate'? The fact that there are a higher proportion of one gender as opposed to another would increase competition. Nothing more.


    And I don't mean dressing up for going out, I mean looking after their weight more, going to the gym more, paying more attention to their teeth, etc...Now this could be all a cultural 'keeping up with the Jones' type deal also
    Very often it is. It's not nice when you are size 10 or 12 max and the fattest girl in the class. I perfected standing on weighting scales so it shows less weight into an art. It has nothing to do with trying to impress men, since they seemed to have a lot less of a problem with my body then I did. Girls are getting a bit fatter now but that doesn't stop me feeling fat whenever I come back home and I'm 35, have two kids and great boyfriend. I gave birth two months ago and am currently on a diet so I don't look too fat for my brothers wedding at the end of the month. My brother who is 34 and not vain is religiously sticking to diets so he shouldn't become cubby as he was as a kid and youngster (he was about 1,5 stone too big).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    Ireland has never been famous for good dress sense - the joke in the nineties used to be that grunge was popular in Ireland before it was in Seattle. This is not simply something that I'd say of women, but men too.

    Additionally there's a strong beer drinking culture in Ireland in both genders - women are more likely to drink pints that they will be anywhere else in Western Europe and this too has an impact. One of the few upsides of Ireland's brief Summers has always been that it meant that the number of days a year we'd be subjected to seeing girls going around with belly-tops was mercifully brief; seeing one is often like looking at a lava lamp.

    Nonetheless, I'd still reject the idea that women from other nations are any better, or any worse, than Irish women, overall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭mood


    I think Irish women dress well in general but there is a tendency to dress too casually for day time and go OTT when going out (too much fake tan, shoes so hight they can't walk properly etc). One of the worst fashion mistakes I see Irish women make more than other nationalities is to wear clothes that are too small (creating a muffin top etc) or sometimes too big.

    I think a lot of Irish men 30+ don't make any effort at all with regard to clothes, health etc. It is very aging. I've lost count of the time I've thought a man my age was 10 years older!

    As a nationality we certainly need to eat better, drink less and exercise more for health reasons if nothing else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    There are some common treads in different nationalities and in genders but a lot of it is just stereotypes.

    Btw I always find it entertaining when people say how girls or men in some foreign country preferred them. Of course they did because they are a bit exotic. Put the same foregin girl/man in a pub in Ireland where they will have more choice and exotic element will be somehow lost and more often than not they will have the same shallow standards as locals. :D

    As for meeting genuine nice men I think it's a lot easier to judge when both parties are sober. Unfortunately that narrows options quite a bit. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    mood wrote: »
    I think Irish women dress well in general but there is a tendency to dress too casually for day time and go OTT when going out (too much fake tan, shoes so hight they can't walk properly etc). One of the worst fashion mistakes I see Irish women make more than other nationalities is to wear clothes that are too small (creating a muffin top etc) or sometimes too big.

    I think a lot of Irish men 30+ don't make any effort at all with regard to clothes, health etc. It is very aging. I've lost count of the time I've thought a man my age was 10 years older!

    As a nationality we certainly need to eat better, drink less and exercise more for health reasons if nothing else.

    I've been out of Ireland for almost all of the last 8 years and I've noticed a change in the Irish. It seemed like everyone was running around my hometown over Christmas or power walking round the beach. People, overall, looked well imo. Definitely better than a few years ago. That's just from my own observations.

    Also, Irish women are bigger boned than many nationalities. I'm not using big-boned as a synonym for overweight btw. I'm a size 10 (size 8 on top) and I could never be as slim as most of the women here in Madrid; It's simply not in my genetic make-up. What's slim in Ireland is not necessarily slim in Eastern Europe or Spain or Italy, for example, so imo, I don't think it'd be fair to compare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭mood


    Eve_Dublin wrote: »
    I've been out of Ireland for almost all of the last 8 years and I've noticed a change in the Irish. It seemed like everyone was running around my hometown over Christmas or power walking round the beach. People, overall, looked well imo. Definitely better than a few years ago. That's just from my own observations.

    Also, Irish women are bigger boned than many nationalities. I'm not using big-boned as a synonym for overweight btw. I'm a size 10 (size 8 on top) and I could never be as slim as most of the women here in Madrid; It's simply not in my genetic make-up. What's slim in Ireland is not necessarily slim in Eastern Europe or Spain or Italy, for example, so imo, I don't think it'd be fair to compare.

    I think that's because people have less money so run/walk rather than spend money on gyms. I know a number of gym goers who now run instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭IrishAm


    meeeeh wrote: »
    While not exactly Eastern European, I am Slavic. There are couple of things which stand out. Girls in those countries seem to be skinnier and probably a bit more active. The Slavic bone structure tends to help (since they are so popular as models).

    I don't believe it to be either genetic nor diet. Your food is just as full as carbs as ours - hey, I love it. Slavic/Eastern European women love their beer - hey, I love that too.

    But, I think that its more a cultural thing. Girls are kinda discouraged from playing in particular sports in Irish schools. Camogie and athletics seems to be their lot. Where as in eastern europe( hate that term, I am speaking from my CZ/SlovaK/PL friends relaying of their experiences) schoolgirls seem to have just as many sporting options available to them as the their male counterparts.

    Quite right, too.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    How did a discussion on meeting a nice genuine man (or woman) turn into a discussion on the fashion sense/weight/diet/exercise regimes of Irish women?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    Eve_Dublin wrote: »
    How did a discussion on meeting a nice genuine man (or woman) turn into a discussion on the fashion sense/weight/diet/exercise regimes of Irish women?
    No idea, it was already like this when I got here. Probably some guy posted how Irish women are [INSERT INSULT] and the whole thing went off track from there.

    Then again, the whole premise that it's somehow difficult to find genuine, nice men (implying that most are not) is a bit silly to begin with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭mood


    Lets try to get back on track.

    Where/how to meet nice, single men :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,790 ✭✭✭confuseddotcom


    ..........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,403 ✭✭✭daisybelle2008


    No idea, it was already like this when I got here. Probably some guy posted how Irish women are [INSERT INSULT] and the whole thing went off track from there.

    Then again, the whole premise that it's somehow difficult to find genuine, nice men (implying that most are not) is a bit silly to begin with.

    I can kind of see how it can become defensive and contentious, the thread title kind of states nice genuine men are hard to find, thereby maybe implying that 'not nice ungenuine men' are ten a penny. So maybe it is inviting the going down the negative battle of the sexes rabbitt hole.

    Instead of starting from the negative premise 'good men are hard to find' the more appropriate question might be 'How can I increase my chances of meeting a singleton that I will connect too'?. It's a bit more positve and inclusive to all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    Instead of starting from the negative premise 'good men are hard to find' the more appropriate question might be 'How can I increase my chances of meeting a singleton that I will connect too'?.
    'Somewhere where I am likely to find people with similar mindsets or interests to me?'


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 930 ✭✭✭poeticseraphim


    Yousef wrote: »
    I can't understand for the life of me how women would have a hard time meeting men.....

    These women must not leave their homes, I'm sure of it. How can you walk through the city centre, stand at a bus stop, sit on a bus, enter a shop, be in a queue, grocery shopping, waiting for a lift, in a lift etc etc....crazy stuff altogether. What you don't realise is, a man can be quite intimidated if a woman appears "standoff-ish". If you give a man an inch, he'll take a mile. For example, whenever you're somewhere thinking that the guy next to you or behind you or beside you is good looking, chances are he has already undressed you and is wondering in what way he'd like to do you....

    All he needs is some form of encouragement from you to show him that you're not totally up your own ass and that communication with you will not turn into a horror movie. In other words, a simple "hi" will suffice.

    It's really sad that two people could potentially like each other but they'll never know because the girl is shy and he thinks she's totally up her own ass.

    YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD....i am very very shy in person at first...exceptionally so...it takes time...and i don't drink and i go out a lot but it is my stuff that i like doing...i hate night clubs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD....i am very very shy in person at first...exceptionally so...it takes time...and i don't drink and i go out a lot but it is my stuff that i like doing...i hate night clubs

    I always reckon there are daytime people and nigh time people. As a non-drinking daytime type person who doesn't like night clubs I'd advise you that you need to embrace the daytime!! It's pretty unorthodox in this country but you have to find ways of getting your flirt on with guys you meet on a day to day basis where it wouldn't normally occur to people to flirt.

    It really can as easy as just making a little eye contact and giving a little smile. You don't have to turn into an unstoppable force, you just have to show guys it's safe to approach you. Mention to friends that you're lonely and would like to meet someone. They don't necessarily know this to be the case and may think you're happily single.

    This sounds like a big-time comfort zone issue more than anything else. You're going to have to start being proactive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 930 ✭✭✭poeticseraphim


    No idea, it was already like this when I got here. Probably some guy posted how Irish women are [INSERT INSULT] and the whole thing went off track from there.

    Then again, the whole premise that it's somehow difficult to find genuine, nice men (implying that most are not) is a bit silly to begin with.

    You are inserting that implication. That INDICATES you felt accused and I am inserting that. There are certain men who seem here to be trying to purge a certain guilt that they don't allow surface.

    There are some bitches and assholes out there. But this is my thread..from my perspective. It's about the assholes.. You might not be used to advising or seeing the perspective of what an nasty male is to a female and only the other way around. But that simply says you over empathize with your own gender. Both men and women have a tendency to over empathize with their own gender or over identify with them and be less empathetic to the opposite.

    I didn't ask about finding people with my interests....but i can meet people with my own interests..and i don't care if they have my own interests that is not what i want...i want a NICE PERSON....that is what i want...that is what I asked....the fact that I stated i wanted one implies I know they are out there. But we are not connecting. I think it is because i myself am ( I hope NICE)...but there are certain other characteristics which tend to go along with this such as humility ....deference....shyness ...these might make meeting people difficult...and if you have these and the type of person you want to meet have these well....I am no angel i know...but still


    There is nothing in my OP that persecutes men at all. Simply that i was having trouble meeting nice ones. I often have trouble finding good friends in a new place.

    I will say this.

    When it comes to the opposite gender..I think some PEOPLE are assholes.

    Sorry i said it. And some people are assholes all the time.


    Many of these are men....may of these men post on boards......many of these are women ..may these also post on boards....


    Yes there are lovely nice boardsies too.....

    But generally people dehumanize the opposite gender.


    I have seen men and women who speak completely differently to their own gender than the opposite and not in a good way. And yes there are just people who are complete dicks.


    But this is about the difficult people that I have to worry about..I imagine nice men have t worry about horrible women.


    It is not my job to understand mean difficult or aloof people...I am not the asshole whisperer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 930 ✭✭✭poeticseraphim


    cantdecide wrote: »
    I always reckon there are daytime people and nigh time people. As a non-drinking daytime type person who doesn't like night clubs I'd advise you that you need to embrace the daytime!! It's pretty unorthodox in this country but you have to find ways of getting your flirt on with guys you meet on a day to day basis where it wouldn't normally occur to people to flirt.

    It really can as easy as just making a little eye contact and giving a little smile. You don't have to turn into an unstoppable force, you just have to show guys it's safe to approach you. Mention to friends that you're lonely and would like to meet someone. They don't necessarily know this to be the case and may think you're happily single.

    This sounds like a big-time comfort zone issue more than anything else. You're going to have to start being proactive.

    BINGO


    Definitely i think i have to embrace a daytime approach. I think I am nervous about it. And i think I worry that i will not know when and where it is appropriate. Thank you this was a very helpful post :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    ...It is not my job to understand mean difficult or aloof people...I am not the asshole whisperer.

    Serious LOL!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭Sadderday


    you need to build up your confidence to the point where rejection won't knock you back too much,

    You have the fear. You could doll yourself up and approach 10 men (pub, walking dog, library.. doesn't matter)

    Someone is bound to be interested and its a confidence boost alone when you do meet someone thats into you (even if it turns out your not into them after conversing)

    approaching a man or chatting in a queue doesn't make you seem desperate - you can aim to come across cool and makes it easier for a man to get chatting (sometimes they do need a hand)

    You got it, like every girl does... don't be afraid to use it... leave the house feeling good and chat or smile or flirt with at least ten men on your travels. You will be amazed with the results and with boost... and if exchanging numbers or going for a coffee doesnt happen, try it again tomorrow.

    Your very best bet though is to just stop looking. When your looking for something - your not yourself.
    When your happy on your todd you will attract the right person. Nobody wants to pick up someone that will rely on them for happiness, so be carefree, happy and comfortable and men will be drawn to you because honestly, you won't look like hard work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    You are inserting that implication. That INDICATES you felt accused and I am inserting that. There are certain men who seem here to be trying to purge a certain guilt that they don't allow surface.
    Well if you didn't imply such a thing in your OP, you pretty much nailed it in that post.

    Go join a club, association, bible group (if you're religious), political party (if you're politically passionate) or any group that would share a mindset or interest that you have and you're going to more likely meet someone you're compatible with than a random nightclub, bar or other traditional meeting place where people hook up with other people who may or may not have anything in common, based on random chance.

    One thing I've seen is that many here have met their other halves on Boards, posting on the same fora and having similar views in those fora. PM someone you like the sound of and ask them to go for coffee.

    Does that help?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 53 ✭✭captainpants23


    Hello Ladies:p

    So i want to meet genuine guys.

    I work freelance from home and i feel like sometimes i have been cut off socially because of it.

    I am also a little shy ...at first ....then i am fine after the initial butterflies.


    My confidence took a knock in the past....i really feel i need to get out there.

    But i really dislike clubs/pubs etc.

    Previously i always met men either through college, work sometimes friends etc.

    I was thinking of joining a few societies etc.


    But i think i need tips on coming out of my shell too.

    I need confidence.:o

    TY

    I am sure many others are in the same boat.

    My advice would be to try to not care if you meet someone or not. Not act as if you don't care, but genuinely not care. Both sexes are very adept at spotting desperation or neediness in the opposite sex, in my opinion. And everybody loves a challenge. I always seem to get chatting to girls easier when I don't care that I am single and don't feel like I need a partner to be as good as the guy who does have a partner. Also, I find that woman fall into two broad categories; those women who are friendly and approachable and easy to get talking to and those women who are less so. I don't believe that playing hard to get works in the real world. From your post you seem like a nice, reasonable person. And you make a good point about it being harder to meet new people as we get older, and no longer meet new people as easily as we did in school, college etc., especially when the club and pub scene leaves you cold. I wish you the best in your search, and hope you meet someone nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,687 ✭✭✭blacklilly


    I think it really depends on your openness. A small smile, eye contact, positive body language can all help.
    I'm single a couple of years now and find it difficult to meet men but I think I know why.
    I avoid eye contact if someone is looking at me, if someone smiles at me I tend to look the other way etc. I must honestly seem like a right stuck up bitch and that impression men may get is the total opposite of what I am.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭mood


    blacklilly wrote: »
    I think it really depends on your openness. A small smile, eye contact, positive body language can all help.
    I'm single a couple of years now and find it difficult to meet men but I think I know why.
    I avoid eye contact if someone is looking at me, if someone smiles at me I tend to look the other way etc. I must honestly seem like a right stuck up bitch and that impression men may get is the total opposite of what I am.

    I think me being a bit shy holds me back. Appearing more open may help.

    Any flirting tips? I just never learned how to flirt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,687 ✭✭✭blacklilly


    mood wrote: »

    I think me being a bit shy holds me back. Appearing more open may help.

    Any flirting tips? I just never learned how to flirt.

    Well I think flirting comes natural to some people. The most important thing is to be relaxed with yourself, don't think too much about it. Smile loads, eye contact, let them know that you are interested but don't go over the top about it. I think if you have an engaging conversation with a man and are interested in the conversation and you're not being short or denfensive he will probably pick up that you're interested in him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    mood wrote: »
    I think me being a bit shy holds me back. Appearing more open may help.

    Any flirting tips? I just never learned how to flirt.

    Just show interest. Eye contact. Be light and engaging. Share you're observations about them- it shows you're taking an interest. Smile/ laugh at their jokes (even the mediocre ones).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 53 ✭✭captainpants23


    mood wrote: »
    I think me being a bit shy holds me back. Appearing more open may help.

    Any flirting tips? I just never learned how to flirt.

    All I know about flirting is that it comes naturally when I am relaxed about the whole dating thing and is next to impossible when I am feeling wound up. It either comes naturally or it doesn't happen. It can't be forced, in my experience.
    cantdecide wrote: »
    Just show interest. Eye contact. Be light and engaging. Share you're observations about them- it shows you're taking an interest. Smile/ laugh at their jokes (even the mediocre ones).

    Not so sure about this. I'd rather be told my joke stinks like a week old kipper, than have a woman pretend it is funny, when it isn't. I can pick up pretty quick whether someone is genuinely amused or not.
    blacklilly wrote: »
    I think it really depends on your openness. A small smile, eye contact, positive body language can all help.
    I'm single a couple of years now and find it difficult to meet men but I think I know why.
    I avoid eye contact if someone is looking at me, if someone smiles at me I tend to look the other way etc. I must honestly seem like a right stuck up bitch and that impression men may get is the total opposite of what I am.

    Initial male/female contact is fertile ground for wild misunderstandings, especially when both parties are stone cold sober, in my experience. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    Not so sure about this. I'd rather be told my joke stinks like a week old kipper, than have a woman pretend it is funny, when it isn't. I can pick up pretty quick whether someone is genuinely amused or not.

    Do you know what mediocre means? I didn't say 'Scream like a Banshee at every pathetic jokes'. I said, let him know you are looking at him in a favourable light. It's a signal. You'd feel better about a sneer?

    What difference does it make if she's willing to give you her number anyway it's happy days.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 53 ✭✭captainpants23


    cantdecide wrote: »
    Do you know what mediocre means? I didn't say 'Scream like a Banshee at every pathetic jokes'. I said, let him know you are looking at him in a favourable light. It's a signal. You'd feel better about a sneer?

    I'd feel better about a woman with the confidence to tell the truth about whether a joke is funny or not. How else am I supposed to learn which jokes work and which don't?
    cantdecide wrote: »
    What difference does it make if she's willing to give you her number anyway it's happy days.

    Texting is the work of the devil, and creates distance between people, rather than bringing them closer together.


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  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Charlie Quick Logo


    Giving a number can be used for calling too. I know, so old fashioned...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    Is it romcoms that have perpetuated this myth of setting out to flirt? I know on the very few occasions I have been flirting it wasn't because I thought, "Holy feck he's hot, I'd better flirt." Rather it's been much more a case of "OH MY GOD I'M FECKING FLIRTING WITH HIM! When did that happen? I didn't think I liked him. I think I like him. Does he like me? I'd better stop smiling like an eejit. Holy crap control your face! You're grimacing now! QUICK STICK IN A PINT IN YOUR FACE AND DON'T DRIBBLE!"


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 53 ✭✭captainpants23


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Giving a number can be used for calling too. I know, so old fashioned...

    Even more old-fashioned would be cutting out the phones, and doing it the way it was done before smart-phones with their 500+ apps for free voice calls and instant messaging. Twenty years ago, things must have been so much simpler and less drawn-out. Now you have to spend at least a week texting and facebook-stalking before the first date. Nothing like being stood up, to let me know exactly where I stand.:D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13 anonymous2013


    There are plenty of nice guys out there looking for dates , i went on this dating matchmaking thing with a woman matchmaker called sheilia,she advertises in the Limerick post,i had no success there,one guy never turned up,another guy couldnt stop farting and making inappropirate comments,another guy had wifebeater written all over him..Tried the other ad beside sheila and had better luck,first off they werent scary,and it wasnt intimidating like speed dating can be,and after many tries im happy now with a guy from kilrush we meet up every week when hes off shifts he works as a mechanic so handy if my car breaks down haha..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭mood


    I don't know if the matchmaker route would be for everybody!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭seenitall


    *hums*

    Matchmaker, Matchmaker,
    Make me a match,
    Find me a find,
    catch me a catch,
    Matchmaker, Matchmaker
    Look through your book,
    And make me a perfect match...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,273 ✭✭✭✭TommieBoy


    Lyaiera wrote: »
    Is it romcoms that have perpetuated this myth of setting out to flirt? I know on the very few occasions I have been flirting it wasn't because I thought, "Holy feck he's hot, I'd better flirt." Rather it's been much more a case of "OH MY GOD I'M FECKING FLIRTING WITH HIM! When did that happen? I didn't think I liked him. I think I like him. Does he like me? I'd better stop smiling like an eejit. Holy crap control your face! You're grimacing now! QUICK STICK IN A PINT IN YOUR FACE AND DON'T DRIBBLE!"

    'n here I thought I was the only one with such an inner dialogue - I can so relate! :D
    ...mine is a wee less sophisticated and :o much less courageuos. After it delights at setting me in panic mode, it (mercifully) ceases all thought processes, facial expressions, and sets an alarm off demanding my body follow explicit orders: "back away slowly, g'wan girl just walk away, walk.a.way -awayawayaway... Hmm, WALK-A-WAY YOU FOOL, NOWWWWWWW!" ...My inner dialogue is :rolleyes: not so good at making connections, but it averts any damage my pitiful attempts at flirting could cause my ego. :o


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 53 ✭✭captainpants23


    I think a huge part of this romantic process for both sexes is to get over the fear of making a fool of yourself. Confidence could be defined as not caring that I have just made a prat of myself. Again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    I think a huge part of this romantic process for both sexes is to get over the fear of making a fool of yourself. Confidence could be defined as not caring that I have just made a prat of myself. Again.

    And romcoms have it right here. If you're going to be good with someone they'll find you making a prat of yourself charming and endearing.

    Doesn't stop unrequited crushes though. :mad:


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 53 ✭✭captainpants23


    Lyaiera wrote: »
    And romcoms have it right here. If you're going to be good with someone they'll find you making a prat of yourself charming and endearing.

    Doesn't stop unrequited crushes though. :mad:

    If they find you "making a prat of yourself" charming and endearing, you haven't really made a prat of yourself, though. ;)

    Unrequited crushes are tough going, thats for sure. Especially when the object of your desire is nice to you, but you know you will be getting no further than "lets just be friends".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    If they find you "making a prat of yourself" charming and endearing, you haven't really made a prat of yourself, though. ;)

    AH! But you don't know that. You think you've made a prat of yourself. You don't realise otherwise until there's a balcony scene and roses. :p


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 53 ✭✭captainpants23


    Lyaiera wrote: »
    AH! But you don't know that. You think you've made a prat of yourself. You don't realise otherwise until there's a balcony scene and roses. :p

    Believe me, I always know when I have made a genuine prat of myself with a woman. The feeling of humiliation is rather strong for a while afterwards. It is rather hard to miss the times when I have gone down in flames with a woman. ;):p Still, its all good. It makes the success stories all the sweeter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭janeo80


    This is a fascinating thread! I have never ever been in a relationship, I'm only in my 20s so no panic yet, but I am extremely sociable, and still find it impossible to meet guys.... I had loads of wonderful friends (girls and guys) in college, and did a year abroad where I met lots of interesting people too (and dated a bit but nothindg serious). I've studied something that brings me a lot of opportunities to meet artsy and interesting (to me) people, I work in the city centre, I'm always out at gigs and parties and meeting new people or meeting the same people and being introduced to their friends but nothing ever seems to stick! I have hobbies that involve meeting groups weekly but like.... where are all the eligible men???


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 53 ✭✭captainpants23


    janeo80 wrote: »
    This is a fascinating thread! I have never ever been in a relationship, I'm only in my 20s so no panic yet, but I am extremely sociable, and still find it impossible to meet guys.... I had loads of wonderful friends (girls and guys) in college, and did a year abroad where I met lots of interesting people too (and dated a bit but nothindg serious). I've studied something that brings me a lot of opportunities to meet artsy and interesting (to me) people, I work in the city centre, I'm always out at gigs and parties and meeting new people or meeting the same people and being introduced to their friends but nothing ever seems to stick! I have hobbies that involve meeting groups weekly but like.... where are all the eligible men???

    Define "eligible men".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Does a fella have to have all his teeth in his head to be called that there "eligible"? :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭janeo80


    Waah I should have chosen my words better!!!! Ok so I do language classes and choirs and stuff every week, have a broad range of interests, go out regularly etc., just in all these environments I can never seem to find anyone who takes an interest in me/who interests me for longer than an evening. And by eligible I guess I meant single and appealing to me, that's about it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭janeo80


    And I hadn't thought about it before, but I think all teeth might be a requirement of mine alright. I hadn't realised I was so shallow!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 53 ✭✭captainpants23


    janeo80 wrote: »
    Waah I should have chosen my words better!!!! Ok so I do language classes and choirs and stuff every week, have a broad range of interests, go out regularly etc., just in all these environments I can never seem to find anyone who takes an interest in me/who interests me for longer than an evening. And by eligible I guess I meant single and appealing to me, that's about it!

    Well, you seem to be doing all the right things by getting out there and meeting people in the real world, in non-drinking situations, where your judgement is much sharper. Bravo for that. Probably it is just a matter of time before you meet the right person. Bon chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭janeo80


    Must just be some fatal personality flaw then! :P


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 53 ✭✭captainpants23


    janeo80 wrote: »
    Must just be some fatal personality flaw then! :P

    Ah no. You seem like a nice person with a sense of humour.


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