Gameweek 12 Transfers

massdebater

Is Turner first choice now for Norwich? Want to get in a Norwich defender based on their recent defensive form. My wildcard's in play at the minute so I can chop and change until the weekend. Played it earlier in the week and already four of my players are yellow flagged :rolleyes: Foster (who I already had), Walcott, RVP and Maloney. Not totally convinced with Maloney but he's going to be a permabench player and I don't want Sterling.

FutureGuy

There isn't a hope in hell of me making a transfer until Thursday evening at least. Transfers are too valuable at this stage of the season to waste.

roryc

FutureGuy wrote: »

There isn't a hope in hell of me making a transfer until Thursday evening at least. Transfers are too valuable at this stage of the season to waste.

In the past I'd tend to agree but the likes of Berbatov, Fellaini and even Suarez will have risen by 0.3 by then. If you can afford to take the hit the odd time its ok but you can't wait on a regular basis. Sometimes risks need to be taken.

Lemlin

S.M.B. wrote: »

Think I'm going to stick with Berbatov - RVP - Tevez for another 2 weeks or so and reassess things then. Hopefully Suarez will have picked up his yellow card by then and Tevez will be back outperforming him.

Sterling is such cheap access into the Liverpool attack that I'm hoping that this pays off over the course of the next few weeks.

My big bugbear with Tevez is that even when he starts he often gets pulled off the pitch early.

At the weekend, City were chasing goals and Tevez was taken off.

Compare that to Suarez. Unless Liverpool are winning comfortably, he's going to be on the pitch for the full 90.

FutureGuy

Lemlin wrote: »

My big bugbear with Tevez is that even when he starts he often gets pulled off the pitch early.

At the weekend, City were chasing goals and Tevez was taken off.

Compare that to Suarez. Unless Liverpool are winning comfortably, he's going to be on the pitch for the full 90.

It's the same with all the City attackers. I'm seriously thinking of ditching them in favour of Silva. When City face a weak side, Mancini could field anyone up front. Tevez is usually first subbed, Aguero is a rotation risk, Ballotelli is Ballotelli, and Dzeko has to be content with the status of supersub.

Silva, when fit, will play. Simple as.

machiavellianme

Lemlin wrote: »

My big bugbear with Tevez is that even when he starts he often gets pulled off the pitch early.

At the weekend, City were chasing goals and Tevez was taken off.

Compare that to Suarez. Unless Liverpool are winning comfortably, he's going to be on the pitch for the full 90.

Except when he inevitably picks up that 5th yellow card and is banned for a game. He'll not last much longer till he gets it. 10m is too much to have sitting on your bench for a week

Captain Bob

FutureGuy wrote: »

It's the same with all the City attackers. I'm seriously thinking of ditching them in favour of Silva. When City face a weak side, Mancini could field anyone up front. Tevez is usually first subbed, Aguero is a rotation risk, Ballotelli is Ballotelli, and Dzeko has to be content with the status of supersub.

Silva, when fit, will play. Simple as.

Completely agree, but coming fixtures are not wow for City (at their present condition) at the moment.
And Silva's price tag a bit too high for "maybe score/maybe not".

keane2097

People are really tying themselves into knots over the five yellows thing. You just bench the guy for that game - which might not be a great fixture in any case - and continue to be propped up by all the points that player has won you before along with all the points he'll win you starting the following week.

I know it makes people feel a bit better, but it's bad thinking!

John83

keane2097 wrote: »

People are really tying themselves into knots over the five yellows thing. You just bench the guy for that game - which might not be a great fixture in any case - and continue to be propped up by all the points that player has won you before along with all the points he'll win you starting the following week.

I know it makes people feel a bit better, but it's bad thinking!

I'd agree with that. I did Suarez for Rooney last night before the price rise. Liverpool have some nice fixtures and obviously the ideal is that he's available. If he does happen to miss one then I'd be willing to bet that he'll still score me more points than Rooney would have over the same period. Sick of Rooney's paltry 2-4 points per GW.

Although now I have no Utd attacking cover. Quite tempted to take an 8 point hit to get RvP in. Again over the next few GW's I think RvP can make that difference up.

roryc

FutureGuy wrote: »

Dzeko has to be content with the status of supersub.

I honestly don't understand why Dzeko doesn't play more. He always scores crucial goals and as far as I know he's on the same wage as Aguero (£120k)

Swiper the fox

massdebater wrote: »

Is Turner first choice now for Norwich? Want to get in a Norwich defender based on their recent defensive form. My wildcard's in play at the minute so I can chop and change until the weekend. Played it earlier in the week and already four of my players are yellow flagged :rolleyes: Foster (who I already had), Walcott, RVP and Maloney. Not totally convinced with Maloney but he's going to be a permabench player and I don't want Sterling.

I used my wild card a few weeks ago and it has completely transformed my points returns, great fun as well, I spent hours at it over 3 or 4 days, how much money do you have to spend?
Turner is first choice for the moment anyway but I wouldn't have too much confidence in the Norwich defence as the season goes on, better value with West Ham imo, Sam will keep them well organised.
What's your reasoning for not wanting Sterling?

SpaceCowb0y

roryc wrote: »

I honestly don't understand why Dzeko doesn't play more. He always scores crucial goals and as far as I know he's on the same wage as Aguero (£120k)

Fact! he is a goal scoring beast! Has saved City's skin so many times already coming on to score the winner! although to be fair from any games i remember he never seems to as well when he does start for some reason!

Swiper the fox

SpaceCowb0y wrote: »

Fact! he is a goal scoring beast! Has saved City's skin so many times already coming on to score the winner! although to be fair from any games i remember he never seems to as well when he does start for some reason!

Listening to the game at the weekend the commentator said he scores something like 1 every 30 minutes as a sub and 1 every 250 as a starter, something like that anyway.

SpaceCowb0y

Swiper the fox wrote: »

Listening to the game at the weekend the commentator said he scores something like 1 every 30 minutes as a sub and 1 every 250 as a starter, something like that anyway.

Its madness! Forever to be the super sub goal scoring hero for City :rolleyes:

massdebater

Swiper the fox wrote: »

I used my wild card a few weeks ago and it has completely transformed my points returns, great fun as well, I spent hours at it over 3 or 4 days, how much money do you have to spend?
Turner is first choice for the moment anyway but I wouldn't have too much confidence in the Norwich defence as the season goes on, better value with West Ham imo, Sam will keep them well organised.
What's your reasoning for not wanting Sterling?

I've had Demel from the start but I don't see West Ham keeping as many clean sheets over the next few weeks. I think a Norwich defender is more likely to keep more clean sheets over the next while.

As for Sterling, my last midfield spot is always likely to be on the bench for me and Maloney has been scoring more consistently than Sterling. Sterling has the potential to score higher but has only scored higher than 3 points three times this season (compared to Maloney's five). Maloney's 0.3m cheaper too but tbh it's more the inconsistent scoring that I don't like with Sterling.

S.M.B.

Lemlin wrote: »

My big bugbear with Tevez is that even when he starts he often gets pulled off the pitch early.

At the weekend, City were chasing goals and Tevez was taken off.

Compare that to Suarez. Unless Liverpool are winning comfortably, he's going to be on the pitch for the full 90.

But given the fact that Suarez has played ever minute of every game he's still only outscored Tevez by one point. Take into account the one off performance against Norwich and he'd be well behind.

Tevez remains a much cheaper option for me cause I had him from week one.

I'm thinking it's a (ff) class is permanent/form is temporary type situation.

Lemlin

S.M.B. wrote: »

But given the fact that Suarez has played ever minute of every game he's still only outscored Tevez by one point. Take into account the one off performance against Norwich and he'd be well behind.

Tevez remains a much cheaper option for me cause I had him from week one.

I'm thinking it's a (ff) class is permanent/form is temporary type situation.

Tevez wasn't looking over Aguero's shoulder earlier in the season though. He's no longer the main attacker in the City team.

Compare Tevez's early season scoring to his scores since Aguero has returned. There's a big difference.

Now, compare it to Suarez's scores over recent times.

This game moves in cycles and I think Tevez was part of the last ten game or so cycle.

He really needs to deliver this weekend. I didn't see much of the Spurs game at the weekend but he had one chance before half time that an in form striker should bury.

As for Suarez missing one game. As others have said above, it's a bit of a null point. It's unfortunate that he'll miss a game but any striker could get injured or suspended at any time.

S.M.B.

This may very well be the case but I'm going to wait another 2 weeks or so to jump off/jump on. It may cost me a few points and .5 million or so but easy come/easy go.

If Suarez can keep scoring consistently and Tevez fails to deliver in the game time he's getting then I'll make the switch.

This strategy has paid dividends so far by refusing to ditch the like of Fellaini and Berbatov during their quite spells.

Ace0x9

SpaceCowb0y wrote: »

Its madness! Forever to be the super sub goal scoring hero for City :rolleyes:

OR get transferred out to some rich cashcow in search of a clinical striker (Psst, Di Matteo's searching, I heard) :pac:

Swiper the fox

Ace0x9 wrote: »

OR get transferred out to some rich cashcow in search of a clinical striker (Psst, Di Matteo's searching, I heard) :pac:

City won't be selling a top striker to Chelsea for any money

Ace0x9

Swiper the fox wrote: »

City won't be selling a top striker to Chelsea for any money

The last time I heard something like that was when Tevez was Loaned to Manchester United.

Then, I heard something similar when they said something about Van Persie being transferred off from Arsenal to Manchester United. Chelsea might not be Manchester United but they sure do have the funds to force any move through.

Swiper the fox

Ace0x9 wrote: »

The last time I heard something like that was when Tevez was Loaned to Manchester United.

Then, I heard something similar when they said something about Van Persie being transferred off from Arsenal to Manchester United. Chelsea might not be Manchester United but they sure do have the funds to force any move through.

West Ham and Arsenal to a lesser extent are seller clubs, Man City would never give an opponent an advantage mid season, I really couldn't see that happening but we'll see, where did you hear about this?

Ace0x9

Swiper the fox wrote: »

West Ham and Arsenal to a lesser extent are seller clubs, Man City would never give an opponent an advantage mid season, I really couldn't see that happening but we'll see, where did you hear about this?

Heard it at the start of the season; the rumor then died out. Then people (basically Bookies) brought the rumor back into circulation when Torres stopped scoring recently.

I agree with you, though. Can't see ManC give away a super sub' midseason.

Iused2likebusts

Lemlin wrote: »

Tevez wasn't looking over Aguero's shoulder earlier in the season though. He's no longer the main attacker in the City team.

Compare Tevez's early season scoring to his scores since Aguero has returned. There's a big difference.

Now, compare it to Suarez's scores over recent times.

This game moves in cycles and I think Tevez was part of the last ten game or so cycle.

He really needs to deliver this weekend. I didn't see much of the Spurs game at the weekend but he had one chance before half time that an in form striker should bury.

As for Suarez missing one game. As others have said above, it's a bit of a null point. It's unfortunate that he'll miss a game but any striker could get injured or suspended at any time.

I agree with this cant see Tevez getting the Pl game time he has got in the first ten games over the rest of the season. If I still had him Id keep him this week he should start wasnt on international duty but would get rid after this week. Between Agueros injury the Champs Lge and him being the only city striker not getting picked for his national side this has resulted in him starting nearly every league game. Aguero is the main man at City and most weeks it will be him + 1 of the other 3 strikers hes good value at 11 million now. Rotates perfectly with RVP as an alternative Capt choice aswell if i remember correctly he was fairly prolific at home last season.

S.M.B.

I'm thinking of doing Michu -> Taarabt ahead of QPRs home tie with Southampton.

Someone talk me out of it.

Max Power

S.M.B. wrote: »

I'm thinking of doing Michu -> Taarabt ahead of QPRs home tie with Southampton.

Someone talk me out of it.

Madness!

slingerz

I just did Yaya to Valencia. Seems like United have some good fixtures coming and Kagawa and Nani being out should cement Valencia's place.

any thoughts?

Hairy Nipples 87

slingerz wrote: »

I just did Yaya to Valencia. Seems like United have some good fixtures coming and Kagawa and Nani being out should cement Valencia's place.

any thoughts?

I made this transfer just before the Man Utd vs Arsenal game and it hasn't worked out since. I'd be looking to avoid this transfer as it hast worked out. I would have transferred him out this weekend but I had to make the fletcher to Berba switch. He's got decent fixtures but if he doesn't deliver at the QPR match I'd look to get rid as there's so many better options in midfield at the mo.

FutureGuy

S.M.B. wrote: »

I'm thinking of doing Michu -> Taarabt ahead of QPRs home tie with Southampton.

Someone talk me out of it.

I will hack your fcuking computer and change your passwords. MOVE AWAY FROM THE TRANSFER BUTTON.

Ace0x9

FutureGuy wrote: »

I will hack your fcuking computer and change your passwords. MOVE AWAY FROM THE TRANSFER BUTTON.

I second that.

Fizman

slingerz wrote: »

I just did Yaya to Valencia. Seems like United have some good fixtures coming and Kagawa and Nani being out should cement Valencia's place.

any thoughts?

Hairy Nipples 87 wrote: »

I made this transfer just before the Man Utd vs Arsenal game and it hasn't worked out since. I'd be looking to avoid this transfer as it hast worked out. I would have transferred him out this weekend but I had to make the fletcher to Berba switch. He's got decent fixtures but if he doesn't deliver at the QPR match I'd look to get rid as there's so many better options in midfield at the mo.

I made this transfer just before the Arsenal game too, but just because he hasn't registered a decent score in two games, I'm not jumping to the conclusion it was 'failed'. I still hold very high hopes for him over the coming month or so.

FutureGuy

Fizman wrote: »

I made this transfer just before the Arsenal game too, but just because he hasn't registered a decent score in two games, I'm not jumping to the conclusion it was 'failed'. I still hold very high hopes for him over the coming month or so.

I think Valencia in for anyone barring a handful of players is a positive move over the next 5.

Eldoco

Captain Bob wrote: »

Completely agree, but coming fixtures are not wow for City (at their present condition) at the moment.
And Silva's price tag a bit too high for "maybe score/maybe not".

did bale to sliva this week...watched city the other day and he looked back to himself, he looks to have more of a free role now when the likes of yaya and barry and garcia on the pitch allowing him to play further forward..

Lemlin

FutureGuy wrote: »

I think Valencia in for anyone barring a handful of players is a positive move over the next 5.

I'd have to disagree. Valencia has looked poor in the last two games. Rafael is more likely to get you an assist.

Valencia's final ball has been terrible, ballooning balls to the back post and wide when he had plenty of targets in the box.

He could come good but, at present, I'd be waiting for him to at least show a bit of form before I'd transfer him in.

Hairy Nipples 87

Lemlin wrote: »

I'd have to disagree. Valencia has looked poor in the last two games. Rafael is more likely to get you an assist.

Valencia's final ball has been terrible, ballooning balls to the back post and wide when he had plenty of targets in the box.

He could come good but, at present, I'd be waiting for him to at least show a bit of form before I'd transfer him in.

I don't think any of the wide players are playing to their potential so far this season. It's strange because last season it was the debate of Nani/Young/Valencia. Valencia seems nailed on even though he's not playing to his best. I hope he gathers some points in his next 3 games or he will be shipped out.

Lemlin

Hairy Nipples 87 wrote: »

I don't think any of the wide players are playing to their potential so far this season. It's strange because last season it was the debate of Nani/Young/Valencia. Valencia seems nailed on even though he's not playing to his best. I hope he gathers some points in his next 3 games or he will be shipped out.

I'm surprised you are giving him three games to be honest. Far cheaper players like Nolan and Fellaini could continue to out score him in that time.

At the minute, I think I may move towards a midfield of:

Fellaini Mata Walcott Silva Sterling.

Just need to replace Cazorla with Walcott and Michu with Silva over the coming weeks.

Hairy Nipples 87

Lemlin wrote: »

I'm surprised you are giving him three games to be honest. Far cheaper players like Nolan and Fellaini could continue to out score him in that time.

At the minute, I think I may move towards a midfield of:

Fellaini Mata Walcott Silva Sterling.

Just need to replace Cazorla with Walcott and Michu with Silva over the coming weeks.

It's mainly because of his fixtures. Norwich, QPR and West Ham. Realistically il probably get rid of him after the QPR game if he doesn't produce. Iv got to get rid of Tevez next week aswel.

Swiper the fox

S.M.B. wrote: »

I'm thinking of doing Michu -> Taarabt ahead of QPRs home tie with Southampton.

Someone talk me out of it.

Considering the savings involved I wouldn't see a problem with that, Taarabt is a really good player who knows how to score, Michu's goose may be cooked, the role he is playing at the moment isn't his most effective though i was impressed with his performance against chelsea a couple of weeks ago.
FF is about gambling, if you feel it could work and you need the 2m for other things go for it, Taarabt is certainly potentially brilliant value at that price.

El Horseboxo

The downside to Valencia in FF terms is that he'll rarely score cause he just won't shoot as he can't use his left foot. He's a one trick pony and defenders are forcing him right and his delivery is suffering because of it.

FutureGuy

Swiper the fox wrote: »

Considering the savings involved I wouldn't see a problem with that, Taarabt is a really good player who knows how to score, Michu's goose may be cooked, the role he is playing at the moment isn't his most effective though i was impressed with his performance against chelsea a couple of weeks ago.
FF is about gambling, if you feel it could work and you need the 2m for other things go for it, Taarabt is certainly potentially brilliant value at that price.

There are whispers he will be put back into the hole this gw.

El Horseboxo

FutureGuy wrote: »

There are whispers he will be put back into the hole this gw.

I think he's more effective there anyways. Think he's only scored the one goal while playing up front.

Dempsey

Swiper the fox wrote: »

Listening to the game at the weekend the commentator said he scores something like 1 every 30 minutes as a sub and 1 every 250 as a starter, something like that anyway.

Possibly Mancini changes the tactics to plan b when he's coming off the bench. Whereas when he starts, its plan a and plan doesnt suit Dzeko so much

S.M.B.

Taarabt is playing in a similarly advanced role at QPR and is getting into a lot of very good positions.

QPR haven't been clinical enough to turn those chances into FF points though.

If I could guarantee that Michu will pick up a yellow at the weekend then I'd go ahead.

Eldoco

S.M.B. wrote: »

Taarabt is playing in a similarly advanced role at QPR and is getting into a lot of very good positions.

QPR haven't been clinical enough to turn those chances into FF points though.

If I could guarantee that Michu will pick up a yellow at the weekend then I'd go ahead.

how much does he cost?

SlickRic

S.M.B. wrote: »

I'm thinking of doing Michu -> Taarabt ahead of QPRs home tie with Southampton.

Someone talk me out of it.

if it's a short-term transfer, it's not the worst I could come up with.

but there is absolutely no longterm value in Tarrabt, you'll end up needing to sell him, and Michu could very easily score against a Newcastle defence with no Coloccini in it - like Nolan did last week for West Ham.

IMO, you'd be nuts.

FutureGuy

SlickRic wrote: »

if it's a short-term transfer, it's not the worst I could come up with.

but there is absolutely no longterm value in Tarrabt, you'll end up needing to sell him, and Michu could very easily score against a Newcastle defence with no Coloccini in it - like Nolan did last week for West Ham.

IMO, you'd be nuts.

This. Newcastle minus Colo are a different team defensively.

S.M.B.

Eldoco wrote: »

how much does he cost?

He's 5.5 so I could ave 1.4 by selling Michu now.

As for it being a short term vs long term transfer? I'd consider it more a jumping off one bandwagon while he's at his financial peak and trying to predict another. It's decisions like these that can make or break a season.

The conservative thing to do is give it another week and reassess the situation.

Michu vs Taarabt
Tevez vs Suarez
Cazorla vs Walcott

I'm just worried I could be missing a chance to make a big stride in the game.

SlickRic

S.M.B. wrote: »

I'm just worried I could be missing a chance to make a big stride in the game.

and you should always look to make strides.

just to break it down...IMO...

Tevez ----> Suarez is brave, but logical, as both players have long term value, but Suarez seems to be in form.

Cazorla

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> Walcott would also be brave, and have some logic to it, as Walcott has been a great FF player for over a year now when played. he takes corners as well, while also playing further up the field than ever. it would also save money.

Michu

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> Tarrabt has little or no long term value to it. Tarrabt hasn't ever scored consistently well in this game, and Michu is playing as a striker in a team that pretty much plays to his strengths. so when they play well, he is likely to score.

the score you might get with Tarrabt at the weekend could well be offset by your need to drop him soon after when he once again will flatter to deceive. IMO, Tarrabt would have to get a mid-teen score this week for the move to be fully justified.

keane2097

Think I'm going to do

Pog -> Ba this week
Ashley Cole -> Caulker next week
Santi Cazorla -> Mata the following week

Think that'll give me a stronger team overall while getting each player in ahead of a reasonably favourable fixture.

Swiper the fox

SlickRic wrote: »

and you should always look to make strides.

just to break it down...IMO...

Tevez ----> Suarez is brave, but logical, as both players have long term value, but Suarez seems to be in form.

Cazorla

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> Walcott would also be brave, and have some logic to it, as Walcott has been a great FF player for over a year now when played. he takes corners as well, while also playing further up the field than ever. it would also save money.

Michu

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> Tarrabt has little or no long term value to it. Tarrabt hasn't ever scored consistently well in this game, and Michu is playing as a striker in a team that pretty much plays to his strengths. so when they play well, he is likely to score.

the score you might get with Tarrabt at the weekend could well be offset by your need to drop him soon after when he once again will flatter to deceive. IMO, Tarrabt would have to get a mid-teen score this week for the move to be fully justified.

I would agree with most of that but I think you are being very harsh on Taarabt, it's only really his second season and I think he could be a good buy at that price considering Michu is nearly 2m more expensive, thats money that could be well spent and Taarabt is certainly no turkey, I won't be buying him myself because he won't get into my midfield but neither would Michu.