Gaming/development build

Rynox45

Building my first PC here so I'm totally clueless

Standard questions first of all;

1. What is your budget? [€800]

2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? [Gaming (Any game really, Skyrim, Minecraft, The Sims 3 etc.), 3D Modelling/animation, Software engineering, programming, Image editing, anything related to games development really, web browsing.]

3. Do you need a copy of Windows? [Yes]

4. Can you use any parts from an old computer? [Nope, Current PC is a fossil :rolleyes:]

5. Do you need a monitor? [No]

5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future? [1366x768] [Maybe, see below]

6. Do you need any of these peripherals? [No]

7. Are you willing to try overclocking? [No]

8. How can you pay? [Bank Transfer/Laser]

9. When are you purchasing? [Roughly 1 month]

10. If you need help building it, where are you based? [Hopefully I wont :P]

So I've started a course in computing in games development and the computer I have now is practically useless for anything other than java programming.

Regarding the monitor, I'm looking for a recommendation as to whether or not I should get a new one, so open to any suggestions If you want to recommend a monitor, you can do so without adding it in to the cost of the PC itself.

Budget's a tad flexible depending on the value regarding performance/future-proofing.
Other than that, all help appreciated, thanks

Rynox45

Bump

MRTULES

Item|Price
MSI R7850 TwinFrozr 2GD5/OC, 2048MB DDR5, PCI-Express|€185.62
8GB-Kit Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 MHz CL9|€35.47
WD Caviar Blue 1TB 6Gb's|€68.10
BitFenix Shinobi Midi-Tower USB 3.0 black, ohne Netzteil|€53.03
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 550W|€54.98
ASRock Z77 Pro3, Sockel 1155, ATX|€87.14
Intel Core i5-3570K Box, LGA1155|€208.05
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit (SB-Version)|€82.85
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€794.23

I have never built a pc but this is a starting point for you to look at. Possibly add an SSD if your budget could allow too?

Rynox45

Thanks, a starting off point is just what I need

I think I can switch out the 3570K for a 3570 and switch the z77 mobo for one without overclocking specs to save a bit.

MRTULES

Yep. if your sure you dont want to over clock then h77 or simalar board and no K cpu. I have been told that unlike times past, overclocking now is very very easy and you can squeeze that bit more lifetime out of your pc because of it.

Rynox45

€30 doesn't seem too bad for the option to overclock, it's just that I'd be worried about shortening the lifespan of the parts.

MRTULES

Yeah,if you did want to overclock you would need to buy an aftermarket cooler. these range from €25 to €100

Check this out

Rynox45

Thanks, really helpful link although I think I'll avoid it for my first build just for the sake of simplicity.

Item|Price
BitFenix Shinobi Midi-Tower USB 3.0 black, ohne Netzteil|€53.03
MSI R7850 TwinFrozr 2GD5/OC, 2048MB DDR5, PCI-Express|€185.62
8GB-Kit Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 MHz CL9|€35.47
Seagate Barracuda 7200 2000GB, SATA 6Gb/s|€89.24
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 550W|€54.98
ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP, Sockel 1155, ATX|€79.79
Intel Core i5-3570 Box, LGA1155|€187.04
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit (SB-Version)|€82.85
LogiLink USB 2.0 all-in-one Card Reader, für 3,5" Einbauchschacht|€4.02
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€791.03

Came up with this based on your recommendations.
Bumped the hard drive up to 2TB as it was only about €20 more for the extra TB and it's more than I'll need for a good while.
I think I could add in an SSD later, maybe when prices are lower or when I've got the budget.
Also just threw in the card reader because it's cheap and mildly useful

Serephucus

I would seriously recommend you get a Z77 board an a 3570K. The processor is only €30 more expensive, and the board (ASRock Pro3) is about the same price. Really, you'll kick yourself.

There's nothing saying you have to overclock, but if/when you look into it and want to, and see how easy it is, you'll be angry you didn't spend the bit extra now.

Rynox45

Yeah you're right, the option is worth the €30 or so.

Rynox45

Probably the last change to the build barring any revelations.

Item|Price
MSI R7850 TwinFrozr 2GD5/OC, 2048MB DDR5, PCI-Express|€186.34
8GB-Kit Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 MHz CL9|€35.47
Seagate Barracuda 7200 2000GB, SATA 6Gb/s|€89.24
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 550W|€54.03
Intel Core i5-3570K Box, LGA1155|€209.08
ASRock Z77 Pro3, Sockel 1155, ATX|€88.19
LiteOn iHES112-115 bulk|€50.69
LogiLink USB 2.0 all-in-one Card Reader, für 3,5" Einbauchschacht|€3.32
BitFenix Shinobi Midi-Tower USB 3.0 black, ohne Netzteil|€53.03
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€788.38

Back to the n77 and K chipset so I can overclock in the future.
Got rid of Windows as I had to get another copy anyway to upgrade another computer, used what was left to add a DVD/BD drive.

Thanks very much for all the help