AFC Wimbledon V MK Dons in FA Cup

Mr.Crinklewood

BOHtox wrote: »

This on the tele?

EDIT: Thought this was on sooner. When is it on actually?

2/12/12 Live on ITV @ 1230.

Picture of a cow.

pavb2

Been over to Stadium MK a few times great facilities watched the game from hotel balcony while enjoying a few prawn sandwiches. bit different from my younger days on the grassy knoll of the Witton lane end at Villa Park.

IIRC they were in the running to host world cup games if England's last bid was successful. If you stand outside the stadium you can see a load of steel stored in readiness to raise the roof and increase capacity on 2nd tier not sure if this has been done now.

Stephen Gleeson Irish International 1 cap I think has been there a few years now.

Muff_Daddy

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Meh, I have huge sympathy for the AFCW fans, but on the other hand I don't think Milton Keynes did a whole lot wrong either. Bulk of the blame with Wimbledon Council imo.

I think the sacred 'football league pyramid' was flawed in this case also - a city of 200,000 people got created by the social policy of a 1970s government ; to expect the local football team to work it's way up from Division 11 tier seems inefficient. Just because other clubs in smaller towns happened to be created at a time when there was no such pyramid and they got in by default isn't a logical reason for freezing Milton Keynes (the city) out.

Like if oil or gold got discovered in a desolate corner of Cornwall tomorrow and a 250,000 city developed there within a decade then there should be a way of fastracking their football team up the levels.

Sure why stop at just fast tracking them up to league 1, why don't we just hand them the Champions League trophy now!!! It's the least those 200,000 football mad folk in Milton Keyes deserve.

dan1895

I'll celebrate the death of this horrible franchise club when it comes

blue-army

I really hope it's a draw.

I'm presuming the AFC fans would boycott a home replay too? It'd be a unique tie to say the least.

Fr Tod Umptious

dan1895 wrote: »

I'll celebrate the death of this horrible franchise club when it comes

I'll celebrate the death of this horrible franchise of a town when it comes.

the way they got their houses and infrastructure etc built for them

They should have started of like everyone else, as a small hamlet at a low crossing point in a river, with a few huts and a earth mound to keep out the dangerous animals, and worked their way up from there, like all the rest of us did.

Jelle1880

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I'll celebrate the death of this horrible franchise of a town when it comes.

the way they got their houses and infrastructure etc built for them

They should have started of like everyone else, as a small hamlet at a low crossing point in a river, with a few huts and a earth mound to keep out the dangerous animals, and worked their way up from there, like all the rest of us did.

Did your town up and leave it's original location ?

Ferris_Bueller

This game is on Sunday, anyone know if it will be on television or available to watch anywhere?

Fr Tod Umptious

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

This game is on Sunday, anyone know if it will be on television or available to watch anywhere?

Yes ITV 1
http://www.itv.com/sport/football/article/2012-11-14/itv-to-screen-mk-dons-v-afc-wimbledon/

Jelle1880

Just heard there will be around 3000 Wimbledon fans, and already 15000 tickets sold.

LuckyLloyd

Game of the weekend imo (and I include FC Hollywood / Dortmund in that statement).

Sgt Pepper 64

Come on you Dons!

Milton Keynes to win I think

Green Diesel

Hope the Dons win, and by Dons, I mean AFC.

HoggyRS

bohsfan wrote: »

Not so. The FA backed the decision of a 3 man independent panel to allow Wimbledon FC to relocate to Milton Keynes on the 28th May 2002. Plans to form AFC Wimbledon were announced 2 days later in response to the decision to allow the club owners to cut all ties with the area the club belonged in and move cities.

Wimbledon couldn't relocate for a season, so they played on as Wimbledon in Selhurst Park in front of dwindling crowds. They then moved to Milton Keynes and played another season as Wimbledon before changing their name.

I used to follow Wimbledon back in the day- that decision caused a lot of anger within the core support which has never really abated. Credit to AFC Wimbledon though for doing what Milton Keynes didn't want to do- create a team and work their way up from the bottom of the pyramid.

I was a wimbledon fan as a kid too for some unknown reason! Was only 12 when it all fell apart. Tried to keep up with AFCs happenings ever since, looking forward to a rare chance to see them play live tomorrow.

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Meh, I have huge sympathy for the AFCW fans, but on the other hand I don't think Milton Keynes did a whole lot wrong either. Bulk of the blame with Wimbledon Council imo.

I think the sacred 'football league pyramid' was flawed in this case also - a city of 200,000 people got created by the social policy of a 1970s government ; to expect the local football team to work it's way up from Division 11 tier seems inefficient. Just because other clubs in smaller towns happened to be created at a time when there was no such pyramid and they got in by default isn't a logical reason for freezing Milton Keynes (the city) out.

Like if oil or gold got discovered in a desolate corner of Cornwall tomorrow and a 250,000 city developed there within a decade then there should be a way of fastracking their football team up the levels.

Everything thats wrong with modern football there.

carlop

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Game of the weekend imo (and I include FC Hollywood / Dortmund in that statement).

Madrid derby surely deserves a mention?

Fr Tod Umptious

HoggyRS wrote: »

Everything thats wrong with modern football there.

I'd argue that it shows everything that's right with modern football.

A club that were doomed got a new lease of life, a town got league football and the people of Wimbledon got a new club.

HoggyRS

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I'd argue that it shows writing that's right with modern football.

A club that were doomed got a new lease of life, a town got league football and the people of Wimbledon got a new club.

What he/she was describing was a situation where sporting ability or achievements would be disregarded if certain population bases required a team. Thats not sport. Let them start like everyone else.

ArmaniJeanss

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Meh, I have huge sympathy for the AFCW fans, but on the other hand I don't think Milton Keynes did a whole lot wrong either. Bulk of the blame with Wimbledon Council imo.

I think the sacred 'football league pyramid' was flawed in this case also - a city of 200,000 people got created by the social policy of a 1970s government ; to expect the local football team to work it's way up from Division 11 tier seems inefficient. Just because other clubs in smaller towns happened to be created at a time when there was no such pyramid and they got in by default isn't a logical reason for freezing Milton Keynes (the city) out.

Like if oil or gold got discovered in a desolate corner of Cornwall tomorrow and a 250,000 city developed there within a decade then there should be a way of fastracking their football team up the levels.

HoggyRS wrote: »

Everything thats wrong with modern football there.

Hardly just modern football - plenty of the teams in the current league pyramid got in for very dubious reasons also, from outright bribery to conveniently being able to skip a few divisions because of some perceived importance.

But if you want to believe its a modern malaise and that everything was pure and sweet and rosy in the past then go for it.

In the meantime, C'mon the MK Dons.

HoggyRS

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Hardly just modern football - plenty of the teams in the current league pyramid got in for very dubious reasons also, from outright bribery to conventionally being able to skip a few divisions because of some perceived importance.

But if you want to believe its a modern malaise and that everything was pure and sweet and rosy in the past then go for it.

In the meantime, C'mon the MK Dons.

If you want to give up on all sporting ideals and just make it pure business, maybe they could also do away with promotions and relegations and just pick the clubs from the highest population areas to play in the premier league?

LuckyLloyd

carlop wrote: »

Madrid derby surely deserves a mention?

I stand by what I said.

Fr Tod Umptious

HoggyRS wrote: »

What he/she was describing was a situation where sporting ability or achievements would be disregarded if certain population bases required a team. Thats not sport. Let them start like everyone else.

But everyone else did not start at the same place, as ArmaniJeanss has said

Just beacuse we have a system for so long does not mean that it should always be that way or that is was that way in the first place

For example up until 1987 league entry was via election or re-election rather than promotion.

There was a story I read in WSC about a certain club always getting re-elected bacuse they put on a best spread of food for visiting clubs.

Fr Tod Umptious

HoggyRS wrote: »

If you want to give up on all sporting ideals and just make it pure business, maybe they could also do away with promotions and relegations and just pick the clubs from the highest population areas to play in the premier league?

But sure it has been pure business for years anyway

You think the ownersof Man City, Chelase, Cardiff, QPR etc have high sporting ideals ?

The_Kew_Tour

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Game of the weekend imo (and I include FC Hollywood / Dortmund in that statement).

Not even close.

HoggyRS

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

But sure it has been pure business for years anyway

You think the ownersof Man City, Chelase, Cardiff, QPR etc have high sporting ideals ?

Of course not but we should agitate to stop that becoming the norm, not embrace it.

Muff_Daddy

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I'll celebrate the death of this horrible franchise of a town when it comes.

the way they got their houses and infrastructure etc built for them

They should have started of like everyone else, as a small hamlet at a low crossing point in a river, with a few huts and a earth mound to keep out the dangerous animals, and worked their way up from there, like all the rest of us did.

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I'd argue that it shows everything that's right with modern football.

A club that were doomed got a new lease of life, a town got league football and the people of Wimbledon got a new club.

Two of the most contradictory posts I have ever read on these forums.

Father, are you per chance getting mixed up as to who are supposed to be trolling here?

ArmaniJeanss

Muff_Daddy wrote: »

Two of the most contradictory posts I have ever read on these forums.

Father, are you per chance getting mixed up as to who are supposed to be trolling here?

Re-read his first post with your sarcasm detector switched on.

Insect Overlord

What time is kick-off?

KevIRL

Insect Overlord wrote: »

What time is kick-off?

12.30

double GG

Insect Overlord wrote: »

What time is kick-off?

Build up on ITV @ 12.05.

Massive game!!

Melion

Its weird that there are probably people posting in this forum who dont even remember Wimbledon being in the premiership.

Insect Overlord

Melion wrote: »

Its weird that there are probably people posting in this forum who dont even remember Wimbledon being in the premiership.

I was 8 when this happened.

Melion

Insect Overlord wrote: »

I was 8 when this happened.

I was 12, remember it like it was yesterday.

BhoscaCapall

Come on AFC get into these Zombie bastards!!

MANUTD99

Lads, whats the Irish connection to MK Dons. Tri colors everywhere and even pre match when I was watching sky sports news

Insect Overlord

Melion wrote: »

I was 12, remember it like it was yesterday.

Ha, the same man is in goals for AFC Wimbledon today!

Mr.Crinklewood

Fair play to the Cavan man who arranged the aeroplane.

electrobanana

Loving the Wimbledon banner on the plane..love to see an upset here

Sgt Pepper 64

MANUTD99 wrote: »

Lads, whats the Irish connection to MK Dons. Tri colors everywhere and even pre match when I was watching sky sports news

Support any team except the LOI!

Come on MK!

ArmaniJeanss

MANUTD99 wrote: »

Lads, whats the Irish connection to MK Dons. Tri colors everywhere and even pre match when I was watching sky sports news

A lot of Irish players on the books, maybe family have gone over as its such a high profile game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Keynes_Dons_F.C.#Current_squad

Melion

Luke Chadwick needs to shave his head, that bald spot is annoying me

electrobanana

MANUTD99 wrote: »

Lads, whats the Irish connection to MK Dons. Tri colors everywhere and even pre match when I was watching sky sports news

In fairness you could turn on a match from anywhere in the world and you'll see one.. iv seen them at a game in the Brazilian league recently.

recyclops

MANUTD99 wrote: »

Lads, whats the Irish connection to MK Dons. Tri colors everywhere and even pre match when I was watching sky sports news

My mates dad is a member of the mkdons irish supporters club, 4 of em flew over today for the game.

There often going over for the games though today's is a tad special.

BhoscaCapall

Is any 'neutral' actually supporting MkDonalds, out of interest?

losthorizon

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Is any 'neutral' actually supporting MkDonalds, out of interest?

Every member of boards obviously!

Sgt Pepper 64

recyclops wrote: »

My mates dad is a member of the mkdons irish supporters club, 4 of em flew over today for the game.

There often going over for the games though today's is a tad special.

Did any of them actually ever live there?
How did they come to support them?
I know when I lived there, there is\was an irish ex pats group.

Sgt Pepper 64

What a beauty! Get in!

Fowler87

Pick it out

CSF

If you're up for MK Dons here, you're doing the whole football thing wrong.

RikkFlair

Insect Overlord wrote: »

Ha, the same man is in goals for AFC Wimbledon today!

Not often you see a player being 10 years older than the opposition manager :pac:

Insect Overlord

Great header! Game on.