women and free weights area in the gym

Ki ki

I have to say, I found the free weights area of my old gym quite unwelcoming. I don't know if it was down to sexism or just a general lack of consideration for other users.

I am short (5'2) and used the Smith machine for squats. I would often find it left loaded with 100kg+, almost out of my reach. Out of pure stubborness, I would unload it myself, sometimes wobbling with a 40kg weight overhead. I know some of the guys were watching yet none of them would offer to help (not that I would have accepted it anyway ).

Maybe I should take the lack of chivalry as a compliment?!?

Just plug in the earphones, walk in with your head held high, use whatever weights/equipment you want and enjoy your workout

gymfreak

The problem isn't the men..or the women...or the gym and how it is laid out...the problem is peoples perceptions. This topic could be debated over and over..but in the end it will get nowhere until people start to change their perception with regards to weight training. The only way that this can happen is if women start leading my example. Very simply I think that any woman that would like to use weights..should do so..lead by example and others will follow. Easier said then done...but it's done..by lots of gals! So give it a try!!!

And with regards to the feelings of intimidation..I think that this is more of an awareness of a lack of knowledge. As in the more familar you are with a routine and where the equipment is the less intimidated you'd feel.

Goat the dote

I'd personally just feel like a lemon going in lifting my 1-2 kilo weights and there's be lads lifting my weight. That's just me. I exercise at home, but I'd be a bit of a hermit like that anyway

Oryx

Goat the dote wrote: »

I'd personally just feel like a lemon going in lifting my 1-2 kilo weights and there's be lads lifting my weight. That's just me. I exercise at home, but I'd be a bit of a hermit like that anyway

Off topic I know, but consider heavier weights. You lift 1 - 2 kg all the time in everyday life. Those light weights are not going to help you much. Plenty of help and advice here on how to increase.

tomgaa

in my gym theres on girl who regularly hits the weights, she has her routine, looks organised and man does she leave everything in there..... dont think anyone ever stares or says whats she doing in here..... i think what scares women is that " i dont want to get bulky" look, its not going to happen you'l just get fit looking. that girl in my gym has a great set of abs but not the over the top look, and has a great figure. i see some of the women in the gym over at the womens area with the smaller weights and i can see that they are well able to lift those but they nevr progress or i never see that real determination in their face that they should have when there struggling to bang out the last 3 reps. its not that you went to the gym today its what did you do at the gym today!!!!

Nervous Wreck

gymfreak wrote: »

The problem isn't the men..or the women...or the gym and how it is laid out...the problem is peoples perceptions. This topic could be debated over and over..but in the end it will get nowhere until people start to change their perception with regards to weight training. The only way that this can happen is if women start leading my example. Very simply I think that any woman that would like to use weights..should do so..lead by example and others will follow. Easier said then done...but it's done..by lots of gals! So give it a try!!!

And with regards to the feelings of intimidation..I think that this is more of an awareness of a lack of knowledge. As in the more familar you are with a routine and where the equipment is the less intimidated you'd feel.

Except for the gyms with "women's weights" areas signposted as per examples given here. In those cases, the gyms need to cop the fuck on. Other than that part, completely agree with this.

The Davestator

I introduced a ladies only weights section in the gym I run. It's not because I didn't want women in the main area, or I don't think women can train alongside men,
it's just because its still an unfortunate reality that women get intimidated in the male dominated area of a traditional weights section.

Do I simply tell women not to be intimidated? No, I give them a choice. A separate area where they can grow their confidence if they wish.

Regarding weights- the dumb bells in our ladies gym go up to 30 kg and I'd hate any place that out max 10 kg weights in a ladies section!

By the way, it's not only nervous women who use the ladies gym, serious trainers have surprised me by training there

DM_7

Don't worry about what other people are thinking just get in an do your exercise.

As a man I found going in and doing some classes (spin or pump) intimidating as it was mostly women who went but once I stopped wondering what others were thinking I started enjoying the exercise.

Also when I first started I found the weight area intimidating, but again once I just focused on my exercise I soon forgot about it and in the end became friendly with a lot of the other gym goers and found it to be a supportive area of the gym. After all most people are there for the same reasons.

EDIT: Just seeing the post above, its a good idea for weight areas for women so they can feel more comfortable and get some confidence. I would love to see more promotion of weights for women by gyms. Where I work many of my colleagues are female and through conversations with them they are genuinely afraid of using weights in the gym in case they bulk up.

the_syco

LivingInColour wrote: »

See it's this sh1t here that causes the issue in the first place. If gyms didn't make women feel they had to stick to sh1tty paperweights a specific area, then they wouldn't feel intimidated or 'different' for wanting to pick up a barbell.

Weights go from "sweet f**k all" to "stupid weight" in that section. A few lads sometimes take the two 20kg weights if the other ones are being used, and 20kg are in no way the heaviest.

The only woman I've seen in the big weights sections is the gf of one of the body builders, and she'd be lifting 2*5kgs weights with the 8kg bar.

I've seen many lads use the weights in the other section, so I won't cal the other section the ladies section.

butthatsjustme

Was inspired by this thread to get the gym instructor to teach me how to do barbell squats today!

Only 25kg but really enjoyed it!

Usually find the idea of going into the mens area quite intimidating, but gym was quiet, and I ended up being too busy doing my own thing to look at anyone else!

Enjoyed it so much I went back at the end of my workout to do more, and there was a girl doing deadlifts

The Davestator

butthatsjustme wrote: »

Was inspired by this thread to get the gym instructor to teach me how to do barbell squats today!

Only 25kg but really enjoyed it!

Usually find the idea of going into the mens area quite intimidating, but gym was quiet, and I ended up being too busy doing my own thing to look at anyone else!

Enjoyed it so much I went back at the end of my workout to do more, and there was a girl doing deadlifts

Youll never look back. - good for you!

Dotcomdolly

I just assume all the fellas think I am super awesome for lifting, until proven otherwise
The set up in the Carlisle means there is a divide (by the pool) between the men & womens side of the gym and then there is an additional "womens weights area" with all the light weights...I don't go there...the proper weights area on the womens side is usually 80/20 men to women. I refuse to feel intimidated, why should I? One or two of the lads can be a bit gruff when asked to work in, if they're using something etc. but generally everyone keeps themselves to themself and is perfectly nice when you need to talk to them. If I have to I will go over to the mens side, where I've never seen another woman.

Mellor

Goat the dote wrote: »

I'd personally just feel like a lemon going in lifting my 1-2 kilo weights and there's be lads lifting my weight.

Increase the weight. You are able to lift more than you think. Your handbag is prob almost 2kg.

If you complete the reps with 2kg. Up the weight to 3kg, then 5kg and so on

gymfreak

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

Except for the gyms with "women's weights" areas signposted as per examples given here. In those cases, the gyms need to cop the fuck on. Other than that part, completely agree with this.

I agree they shouldn't be signposted 'Women's weight area'. I know if TF they had to take down that sign for equality purposes...it is a catch 22 situation...if you take away the designated area then it'll either force them to use the main area or stop doing weights altogether. It's funny cos I always felt like a pleb using the small weights area in TF as it was so cramped and everyone was on top of you watching what you were doing, where as in the main area no one cared!

On a sidenote..and the reason that I'm posting this morning is..I just remembered a conversation I had with a female Olympian very recently who uses weights regularly in her training. And on joining a new gym she came up to tell me how intimidated she was feeling...so my point is everyone can feel that way trying a new gym or a new routine but you just have to get on with it!

ButtersSuki

I'm male, 6'6" and in my younger, playing days was on lots of various sport specific and general weight programmes. During those days I never once felt intimidated in a gym.

Now I'm older and I'm not lifting anywhere near what I used to (out of choice on one level, and limited by injury in others) I will admit to having been intimidated a bit in recent years, ESP. for some reason by guys much younger than me. I remember the first time I went back squatting after having my ACL repaired I was naturally using very light weights and out of the corner of my eye I could see and hear (they made little effort to disguise it) some younger members of the Dublin Football team pointing and laughing at me. Every time they were in the gym at the same tube as me I got it. So yeah, I can imagine it would be much worse for women.

But I wouldn't let that stop you.

Hanley

Very serious question - how much does perception and confirmation bias come into play here?

Everyone gets looked at when they walk into a gym, in much the same way as people looked at me walking into Storbucks, or when I had breakfast in my local coffee shop this morning. Did they look because there was something inherently wrong with what I was doing (shut up, ok?!) or did they look because someone moved in their vicinity?

I don't pretend to be inside everyone's head, but a lot of the time people are just looking at movement. They're not "judging".

osheen

Just a to say i'm manl 30+ and only started to get fit a few months ago so know how the op feels- but i have nothing to prove to anybody but myself so dont worry just do your thing and feel good about your achievement.

WHIP IT!

Hanley wrote: »

a lot of the time people are just looking at movement. They're not "judging".

This...

People-watching is a national passtime - and often the 'watching' is for no reason at all... I'm an awful f*cker for piking people out of it - for no reason whatsoever!

Paudee

I don't think there's as much of a gender divide as people seem to think.

I had a friend who wouldn't train very regularly come over to me in the gym the other day, look around, and say 'i'm petrified'.

Similarly had another friend who trains 6 days a week for rowing say he tries to come when it's quiet because he doesn't think he's 'big enough' to train there!

Everybody is insecure in one way or another, you can be sure the enormous dude in the corner benching a 180kg thinks he's absolutely rubbish compared to those he seeks to emulate.

Everybody has to start somewhere.

kevpants

Weight rooms are d1ckhead mecca. Scroll through a bodybuilding.com thread then imagine being a woman walking into a room full of that.

I know wifepants had her issues in TF back when I trained there. Lads sniggering and commenting. The only time I was able to convince her to lift weights was when Hanley started training her /plug.

I think the gyms that set up women's weights areas are doing it out of demand, no point in trying to blame them.

Ironically women would be better served by training in back street gyms that might be considered "hardcore" where they'd be surrounded by stronger but more open people.

doctorwhogirl

The women's weights areas are pathetic though.

I know in my gym there's the heavy weights section which is upstairs, away from the main gym (treadmills etc....) and I have never seen ONE woman in it. I really don't feel I could go up into it. I'm not utterly self conscious but there isn't a precedent so I would probably feel a bit random heading on into it.

They have mats and weights down the in the main gym which I use but there aren't things there that I would like to try, like a pull up bar! There is only one barbell downstairs in the main part and all they have set out is 20kg worth of weights to attach. The on barbell has become a serious problem as lately I've a gym enemy who seems to be there at exactly the same times as me and does pretty much the same stuff so it's a battle to get the the barbell first!!! I've asked for more but none have appeared. They do have a good selection of heavy free weights however so it's grand, and the pros probably do outweigh the cons.

I have to say though, in the past 5/6 months I've seen a huge increase in the amount of women using the weights machines and the barbell during their workout which is brilliant! I had workout envy of this small little frame of a woman about the same age as me 26/27 or so busting out some serious lifting with the barbell and heavy free weights! My new idol! So I was definitely staring her out of it to learn something!!!

Brian?

kevpants wrote: »

Ironically women would be better served by training in back street gyms that might be considered "hardcore" where they'd be surrounded by stronger but more open people.

I've found that there's an inverse relationship between strength and dickheadedness when it comes to guys in gyms.

The strongest guys in any gym I've been are always the most open and friendly. It's the skinny lads who tend to put on the machismo.

Canis Lupus

Watching a girl squat... admiring her form then realising that it totally makes me look a perv..

Of the two girls I know who tried weightlifting both complained their arms and legs went too muscly for their liking.... after a month..... Whether that was an excuse I don't really know.

For lots and lots of women the gym = cardio and a whole heap of situps which is a shame.

doctorwhogirl

My arms and legs have gotten "muscly" but not to an incredible hulk level!

Only downside is my thighs are more toned but slightly bigger in part so some of my jeans are an issue!!!!

Arms, they just look way more toned!

Hanley

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Watching a girl squat... admiring her form then realising that it totally makes me look a perv..

Of the two girls I know who tried weightlifting both complained their arms and legs went too muscly for their liking.... after a month..... Whether that was an excuse I don't really know.

For lots and lots of women the gym = cardio and a whole heap of situps which is a shame.[/QUOTE
Again I come back to... Confirmation bias.

The Davestator

I cant believe the number of posters who I assumed were male, but turn out to be female from this thread!

prettygurrly

I'm just so glad I'm in my gym - Intergral Fitness, Drogheda. Yes we have a ladies area which is kinda around a corner, and yes I'm in there more often than the free weights area but only because it's generally quieter in the ladies area. What's the point of taking up a bench in the unisex area when there's one available around the corner? We also have a cable pull machine and barbells for us girls, ranging from 10kg up to 30. There's also cardio machines in this area for the really self conscious.

In the free-weights area there is mostly men, we don't see many girls really but the times that I do need to be in that part of our gym for my program I just get nods or smiles from regulars that I see three times per week anyway. I've never had any odd looks from anyone, regardless of ethnic background.

Lastly, never ever try to carry weights off machines that are too heavy. What if you dropped it on your foot? Then you'd break some little bone and be unable to train for 6 weeks or you might hurt your back - again stopping you from training or finally you may do untold damage to important bits of you that you will only find out later on in life...it's not worth it. I usually find a male trainer or a make some man's day by asking for a hand - I'm telling you, the biggest smile after I asked him to take the weights off for me. Maybe I just have really nice gym members...

prettygurrly

one thing I forgot to say is...I feel for the fellas that come in that are seriously over weight...I can't imagine what they're feeling and would probably appreciate an area of their own too...I don't think they realise that if they came into the ladies' area we'd probably not bat an eyelid because they're in the same position as a lot of females of feeling self conscious.

Hanley

Essentially this boils down to... If you don't look like you own perception of who belongs in the weight room, you think everyone stares at you.

But that's their fault..?!

prettygurrly

i think, in some cases yes people are probably just very self conscious and as has been said most people are only interested in looking at themselves and don't take any notice. But I don't doubt that there are some people that have been made fun of...we live in a society where it seems to be ok to poke fun at people, regardless.

however, intimidation is not perception. Intimidation is about there being a) loads of men b) they all being really big. In the Queen's gym I used to feel intimidated in the free weights room but just got on with it...finally got used to a few of the fellas in there who as we've said are only interested in themselves...but I don't think men really understand how intimidated women can feel when they are outnumbered particularly after Ireland's penchant for single sex schools, non mixed sports clubs, brownies (instead of scouts), female dominated irish dancing/drama etc. and then how the vast majority of domestic abuse is male on female and not the other way round...and then if you do turn out to be a strong independent woman despite your irish background...you must be gay..i mean! I suppose the crux of this conversation is that fellas in the free-weight area might be aware of the effect they have.

I dunno if it's cos I have a body builder as my trainer, and therefore know that despite his size he's a marshmallow, they are less scary...but if you've never even spoken to a full on body builder, i think it's understandable that you would be intimidated by them

Hanley

prettygurrly wrote: »

however, intimidation is not perception. Intimidation is about there being a) loads of men b) they all being really big. In the Queen's gym I used to feel intimidated in the free weights room but just got on with it...finally got used to a few of the fellas in there who as we've said are only interested in themselves...but I don't think men really understand how intimidated women can feel when they are outnumbered particularly after Ireland's penchant for single sex schools, non mixed sports clubs, brownies (instead of scouts), female dominated irish dancing/drama etc. and then how the vast majority of domestic abuse is male on female and not the other way round...and then if you do turn out to be a strong independent woman despite your irish background...you must be gay..i mean! I suppose the crux of this conversation is that fellas in the free-weight area might be aware of the effect they have.

I full on understand it and have spoken to and coached many girls about it, but it IS perception. They are not BEING intimidated, they're making themselves FEEL intimidated. Very different.

The end result is of course the same, but changing core beliefs fixes that problem. Nothing the men can do about it. Hell if you tried to be friendly to a girl in the gym you'd probably be accused of hitting on her here. Lose/lose sitch.

prettygurrly

i did say that i "felt" intimidated in the Queen's gym. I take perception as how you think you look to other people. Surprisingly we don't seem to use the word properly at all!

per·ceive (pr-sv)
tr.v. per·ceived, per·ceiv·ing, per·ceives
1. To become aware of directly through any of the senses, especially sight or hearing.
2. To achieve understanding of; apprehend. See Synonyms at see1.

I know that fellas aren't doing it on purpose...I never said they are. I was trying to explain why we feel intimidated. It's unfortunate but that's the way society is nowadays. I do think though that PT and gym instructors should try to break those barriers with us young ones by getting us into the free weights (as I have)..and I think we both agree on that point by your point of "changing core beliefs".

When a fella does say hello to me, I do drop into the convo early on that I have a bf because there's no point letting them think that you are available but once that's cleared up then I'll happily chat to anyone and find a good few of them do like to have a little chat while on a bike or something and it makes the gym a nicer place if people are friendly.

WHIP IT!

prettygurrly wrote: »

When a fella does say hello to me, I do drop into the convo early on that I have a bf because there's no point letting them think that you are available but once that's cleared up then I'll happily chat to anyone and find a good few of them do like to have a little chat while on a bike or something and it makes the gym a nicer place if people are friendly.

Seriously?

Bruce7

Imagine someone who is not that well off, and not used to eating out, going into an expensive restaurant for the first time. They aren't entirely sure what they are meant to do, they don't understand what half the dishes on the menu are, and they look around at the other diners who all seem so prosperous and at their ease, and they feel deeply uncomfortable and out of place, even though there is no need to. Like when Kim Basinger brought the black kids to the posh restaurant in "In The Ghetto"

Should the other diners have to go out of their way to make them feel welcome? No. They shouldn't have to change their behaviour at all, as long as they are not actively bullying the new arrival.

Should the staff / management make them feel welcome and comfortable? I would say yes.

prettygurrly

yeah of course...I'm sure some people meet at gyms..it's the same as if I'm in a pub or wherever in my mind. Just prefer that people know where they stand. When I haven't done it in the past I've been asked out and then it just gets embarassing. I'm not from this town so my spiel is that I got a job here, then met a boy and I'm still here nearly 6 years later. So yeah...I know I hated it when I was single and had plucked up the courage to start a convo with a fella I liked only to find out weeks later that he has a girlfriend. He was obviously just enjoying the attention...but it wasn't particularly nice for me.

Why? would you happily lead someone on? If the fella isn't interested then it makes no difference to them if you mention you have a bf but if it happens that they were interested then surely it's better to know the score early on. I've plenty of male friends, I enjoy their company but they all know I have a bf and they wouldn't be my friends if in the beginning they'd been after something more...does this make sense? I'm a little surprised by your reply.

WHIP IT!

prettygurrly wrote: »

yeah of course...I'm sure some people meet at gyms..it's the same as if I'm in a pub or wherever in my mind. Just prefer that people know where they stand. When I haven't done it in the past I've been asked out and then it just gets embarassing. I'm not from this town so my spiel is that I got a job here, then met a boy and I'm still here nearly 6 years later. So yeah...I know I hated it when I was single and had plucked up the courage to start a convo with a fella I liked only to find out weeks later that he has a girlfriend. He was obviously just enjoying the attention...but it wasn't particularly nice for me.

Why? would you happily lead someone on? If the fella isn't interested then it makes no difference to them if you mention you have a bf but if it happens that they were interested then surely it's better to know the score early on. I've plenty of male friends, I enjoy their company but they all know I have a bf and they wouldn't be my friends if in the beginning they'd been after something more...does this make sense? I'm a little surprised by your reply.

Well you've made me think twice about saying Hello to women in the gym/supermarket/office/anywhere lest they assume I'm coming on to them!

If a male poster was to make a similiar remark I don't think it would go down brilliantly. I was raised to have manners and part of that involves greeting people when you meet them in a social environment.

gymfreak

Just to cut across this conversation. Im a laydeeeee and I train very frequently in different gyms ...and would very happily spend most of my training time chatting away to the nearest possible person. It really makes no odds to me whether it's a lad or a lass..in fact I probably talk to more lads than girls as they're more up for the banter. Do I assume anyone is chatting me up..nope! Do I think that they think I'm chatting them up...no! It's just normal day to day chit chat!!! People are thinking waaaaaay too much into this

calfmuscle

Right now Im feeling like a bit of a jerk, Im female and use the free weights section for squats, deadlifts etc I also like to run so I sometimes use the treadmill just for my own enjoyment. I never worry about other people in the gym and get irritated if people try to speak to me. I go to the gym to work out and when Im working out, Im working out. This means it ME time. I barely say hello to other people.
I have no doubt the other members of my gym are lovely, but its just not somewhere I socialise, I just want to do my workout and forget everything else.
I kind of presumed that most people where like this?!!?

gymfreak

calfmuscle wrote: »

Right now Im feeling like a bit of a jerk, Im female and use the free weights section for squats, deadlifts etc I also like to run so I sometimes use the treadmill just for my own enjoyment. I never worry about other people in the gym and get irritated if people try to speak to me. I go to the gym to work out and when Im working out, Im working out. This means it ME time. I barely say hello to other people.
I have no doubt the other members of my gym are lovely, but its just not somewhere I socialise, I just want to do my workout and forget everything else.
I kind of presumed that most people where like this?!!?

Ahhh you see for me..if I have my earphones in it means I'm dead serious about training and I'm more than likely doing a conditioning session'...but If I'm not wearing earphones than I'm probably doing some sort of a strength session and enjoy the chit chat along the way. I wouldn't consider someone rude for not speaking to me..each to their own and all that! It really is a minute detail..not something I'd care/worry about!

calfmuscle

gymfreak wrote: »

Ahhh you see for me..if I have my earphones in it means I'm dead serious about training and I'm more than likely doing a conditioning session'...but If I'm not wearing earphones than I'm probably doing some sort of a strength session and enjoy the chit chat along the way. I wouldn't consider someone rude for not speaking to me..each to their own and all that! It really is a minute detail..not something I'd care/worry about!

I don't always wear earphones but its definitely easier to avoid conversation when I am wearing them. I'v been working really hard at putting more intensity into my work outs this year and I really need to get my head right before I start. For me this means being focused, so there is no chit chat or I just slack off.

gymfreak

calfmuscle wrote: »

I don't always wear earphones but its definitely easier to avoid conversation when I am wearing them. I'v been working really hard at putting more intensity into my work outs this year and I really need to get my head right before I start. For me this means being focused, so there is no chit chat or I just slack off.

Sounds like you are the polar opposite to me!

Mellor

prettygurrly wrote: »

yeah of course...I'm sure some people meet at gyms..it's the same as if I'm in a pub or wherever in my mind. Just prefer that people know where they stand. When I haven't done it in the past I've been asked out and then it just gets embarassing. I'm not from this town so my spiel is that I got a job here, then met a boy and I'm still here nearly 6 years later. So yeah...I know I hated it when I was single and had plucked up the courage to start a convo with a fella I liked only to find out weeks later that he has a girlfriend. He was obviously just enjoying the attention...but it wasn't particularly nice for me.

Why? would you happily lead someone on? If the fella isn't interested then it makes no difference to them if you mention you have a bf but if it happens that they were interested then surely it's better to know the score early on. I've plenty of male friends, I enjoy their company but they all know I have a bf and they wouldn't be my friends if in the beginning they'd been after something more...does this make sense? I'm a little surprised by your reply.

If a gay guy from my gym says hi to me should I tell him that I'm straight?

Stench Blossoms

prettygurrly wrote: »

yeah of course...I'm sure some people meet at gyms..it's the same as if I'm in a pub or wherever in my mind. Just prefer that people know where they stand. When I haven't done it in the past I've been asked out and then it just gets embarassing. I'm not from this town so my spiel is that I got a job here, then met a boy and I'm still here nearly 6 years later. So yeah...I know I hated it when I was single and had plucked up the courage to start a convo with a fella I liked only to find out weeks later that he has a girlfriend. He was obviously just enjoying the attention...but it wasn't particularly nice for me.

Why? would you happily lead someone on? If the fella isn't interested then it makes no difference to them if you mention you have a bf but if it happens that they were interested then surely it's better to know the score early on. I've plenty of male friends, I enjoy their company but they all know I have a bf and they wouldn't be my friends if in the beginning they'd been after something more...does this make sense? I'm a little surprised by your reply.

No offense but if a guy is only chatting to you in the gym to be friendly then you are probably coming across as a bit big headed by presuming that he's coming onto you.

I didn't think that people ever tried to chat other people up on the gym.

Dotcomdolly

"Is this bench free?"
"Yes, but I have a boyfriend"

lubie76

prettygurrly wrote: »

When a fella does say hello to me, I do drop into the convo early on that I have a bf because there's no point letting them think that you are available but once that's cleared up then I'll happily chat to anyone and find a good few of them do like to have a little chat while on a bike or something and it makes the gym a nicer place if people are friendly.

Or maybe he is just saying hello to be friendly in the first place and not trying to hit on you!

WHIP IT!

lubie76 wrote: »

Or maybe he is just saying hello to be friendly in the first place and not trying to hit on you!

If you're in a hurry, skip forward to 0:38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsZXTxPFdbY

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Jesus people, if you have time and energy for all these feelings, emotions and insecurities in the gym just do 30 Burpees instead,go in, exercise and get out its not a higschool drama.

Paudee

William Slow Walkway wrote: »

Jesus people, if you have time and energy for all these feelings, emotions and insecurities in the gym just do 30 Burpees instead,go in, exercise and get out its not a higschool drama.

Yeah, and if you petrified at the thought of visiting the dentist, just grab a black and decker and work away.

Mellor

Paudee wrote: »

Yeah, and if you petrified at the thought of visiting the dentist, just grab a black and decker and work away.

because the feasibility of home work outs and home dentistry are about the same right, :rolleyes:

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Paudee wrote: »

Yeah, and if you petrified at the thought of visiting the dentist, just grab a black and decker and work away.

People who are irrationally afraid of something and do it anyway are brave, people who are afraid of something they need to do and use it to avoid something are finding excuses. Your point about DIY is lost on me I have to say. It would be more accurate to say that somebody that came for dental treatment bottled out because the dentist had nice teeth or saw another person having treatment.