Against the head

total former

I think it's inevitable that Daire will get the 6N job when Mcgurk goes. RTE generally don't look too far beyond the obvious when it comes to dishing out presenter jobs so it's either Daire, Kathryn Thomas or Mairead Farrell.

Uno my Uno.

In fairness to O'Brien he's not particularly objectionable like Inverdale or Jiffy just kind of annoying to watch.

The Pheasant2

Jaysus can't stand O'Brien, he always interrupts the guests to make a really cliche point, I could see myself venturing to BBC more often.

Bridge93

The only logical step Rte can take to freshen it up is to give McGuirks seat to the crowd favourite. Daithi O' Se...

duckysauce

ROG should be host

I didn't realise I was supposed to hate Daire O'Brien till I caught up on this thread! I've been slacking

Podge_irl

Uno my Uno. wrote: »

In fairness to O'Brien he's not particularly objectionable like Inverdale or Jiffy just kind of annoying to watch.

I would have the exact opposite opinion. Can't syand o'brien. Simply can't watch anything he's on.

laugh

duckysauce wrote: »

ROG should be host

Rog should stick to making contributions from the pitch, man he is a terrible pundit. Constantly brings everything back to the role of the out-half and doesn't criticise anyone.

jacothelad

I'd give it a go.

jacothelad

jacothelad wrote: »

I'd give it a go.

Weren't you part of the original panel?



Edit: also you'd hardly be suitable what with RTÉ's anti-Ulster Rugby bias!

.ak

I'd actually prefer McGuirk over Daire O'Brien.

jacothelad

Deleted User wrote: »

Weren't you part of the original panel?



Edit: also you'd hardly be suitable what with RTÉ's anti-Ulster Rugby bias!

I've got better hair than that even today and anyone who ever wore such a shirt & tie is unfit for human society. Circles and squares together. OF what was he thinking? RTE isn't biased towards Ulster. No one has told them about us yet.

padser

duckysauce wrote: »

ROG should be host

Rubbish. Sexton would make a far better host.

.ak

.ak wrote: »

I'd actually prefer McGuirk over Daire O'Brien.

Is Joanne Cantwell out of the frame for the 6N? Would be a fairly different dynamic and that's not a bad thing.

molloyjh

I'd take nearly anyone over Daire O'Brien. Not only do I find him a bad host, but I also think he's a very difficult person to actually like. And that's putting it politely. If he is the new host for the 6 Nations then I'll be watching the BBC. And that's after years of watching McGuirk and Hook of RTE!

McGuirk + Hook > Daire O'Brien :eek:

Buer

O'Brien is very hard to watch. For a start, shave your f*cking head man. You look ridiculous.

Secondly, his manner is extremely grating, he clearly lets personal opinions colour his questions which are quite leading. He becomes far too animated and involved in the comments, interrupting panellists to argue his opinions at times.

There are plenty of options out there to use as host. He would be bottom of the list, to my mind.

George Hook

Just since someone mentioned ROG, what if Quinlan was the host? He seems an okay communicator and it would at least mean we wouldn't have to listen to his cliched opinions.

Buer

Quinlan is actually bland and affable enough for that to work. I don't think it would ever be looked at but it wouldn't be the worst thing. I suspect he'd rather sit on the other side though to ensure he's thought of as a pundit across the board for his various media work.

Highly unlikely, but I'm sure someone like Eoin McDevitt would be happy to have a go but again, that would impact on how he is perceived for his other work.

Uno my Uno.

The Host of the 6N has to tread a delicate line between on the one hand the easy going uncle (or Aunt in fairness) you want to sit down with and talk sport for hours and on the other hand a keyed in moderator who know their stuff and are able to call pundits out on any pomposity or sh1te they might spout.

Daire isn't particulalry good at either and Cantwell is far to intense to watch for an entire afternoon's programme.

Hurk

I can't handle O' Brien at all. Remember when he had a pop off bloggers and forum users, bizarrely calling them troglodytes, a few years back?

He's so knowledgable that he said to Pat Lam that Schmidt was his boss. I got a crick in my neck I cringed so hard.

Thought Jennings was great the other night. A rolling panel of Jackman, Lenihan, Murray Kinsella, Jennings and Eddie O' Sullivan. Bit of Stephen Ferris here and there for the gun show.

happy_knome

o brien reminds me of sean moncrief

always with the dry sarcastic wit

Berticus

I actually think Shane Horgan would do a good job as the new McGurk... He was pitch side with ROG there recently asking him a load of questions and thought he came across well in that role. Irrespective, as a pundit I think Horgan has come on a serious amount in the last year or two. Can't stand O'Brien...

Hagz

Oh god no. The show would have to be extended an hour to accommodate him.

Morf

Buer wrote: »

Highly unlikely, but I'm sure someone like Eoin McDevitt would be happy to have a go but again, that would impact on how he is perceived for his other work.

Eoin McDevitt (who I very much like as a journalist) doesn't know what to do physically on TV. Keep an eye on his hand/arm gestures on Second Captains Live. Not that I'd see it as an insurmountable obstacle but it isn't fantastic optics.

Bring back Matty Williams, Franno and Dr. Emmet Byrne. As long as Matty isn't allowed to mention 7s . . . .

Is Shag Horgan pursuing a career in Law in London? That might be an obstacle to greater TV commitments in Ireland.

duckysauce

George Hook wrote: »

Just since someone mentioned ROG, what if Quinlan was the host? He seems an okay communicator and it would at least mean we wouldn't have to listen to his cliched opinions.

I was taking the piss about ROG hosting it :eek::eek:

sydthebeat

happy_knome wrote: »

o brien reminds me of sean moncrief

always with the dry sarcastic wit

Difference being that moncrief can actually be funny

Wang King

If you all don't be careful it'll be Matt Cooper and no supper for any of ye!

davegrohl48

Morf wrote: »

Eoin McDevitt (who I very much like as a journalist) doesn't know what to do physically on TV. Keep an eye on his hand/arm gestures on Second Captains Live. Not that I'd see it as an insurmountable obstacle but it isn't fantastic optics.

Bring back Matty Williams, Franno and Dr. Emmet Byrne. As long as Matty isn't allowed to mention 7s . . . .

Is Shag Horgan pursuing a career in Law in London? That might be an obstacle to greater TV commitments in Ireland.

McDevitt has to present a light hearted show from a couch. It's much easier with a desk. I think McDevitt would be a good option. A likeable fella and crucially a listenable speaking voice.

Robert McGrath

davegrohl48 wrote: »

McDevitt has to present a light hearted show from a couch. It's much easier with a desk. I think McDevitt would be a good option. A likeable fella and crucially a listenable speaking voice.

Didn't he have a show on Setanta briefly with a more traditional desk-and-panel format? TalkSport or something like that? IIRC he was good with that format which backs up your point

George Hook

duckysauce wrote: »

I was taking the piss about ROG hosting it :eek::eek:

Haha yeah, you'd need an extra hour of the show to give him time to think before he talks. But I used it as an opening anyway!

CatFromHue

Robert McGrath wrote: »

Didn't he have a show on Setanta briefly with a more traditional desk-and-panel format? TalkSport or something like that? IIRC he was good with that format which backs up your point

Yeah he did, was a good show too.

It had a strange set up though as both Kimmage and McDevitt looked to be equal hosts, if that makes sense.

jacothelad

Berticus wrote: »

I actually think Shane Horgan would do a good job as the new McGurk... He was pitch side with ROG there recently asking him a load of questions and thought he came across well in that role. Irrespective, as a pundit I think Horgan has come on a serious amount in the last year or two. Can't stand O'Brien...

Hagz wrote: »

Oh god no. The show would have to be extended an hour to accommodate him.

He's a gasbag. Knowledgeable but a) over technical, b) verbose, c) too close to the current players....like Frankie and the laughable MOTM awards he gives to his clients.

Neil3030

I actually wouldn't mind Quinlan giving it a bash to be honest - seems laid back and egoless enough to let the panel do the talking. Has done a few interviews for IRFU's internet channel which have been grand. And heck even if he does butt in the odd time, he is actually qualified to do so.

19543261

jacothelad wrote: »

He's a gasbag. Knowledgeable but a) over technical, b) verbose, c) too close to the current players....like Frankie and the laughable MOTM awards he gives to his clients.

How do you avoid being technical while talking about technical aspects of the game? Whatever about his delivery (which he's improved on), he brings more insight than anyone.

George Hook

19543261 wrote: »

How do you avoid being technical while talking about technical aspects of the game? Whatever about his delivery (which he's improved on), he brings more insight than anyone.

Horgan is coming on rightly, I think he just rushes his delivery of the technical things and with a bit more experience he should stop that. But he's made a good transition from player to working in-front of the camera, not a lot of players are able to do that well, so my I tip my hat to him and hope he continues to improve.

Just keep in mind how great it is to have someone who does not resort to cliches on a regular basis to make points.

I actually wouldn't mind Quinlan giving it a bash to be honest - seems laid back and egoless enough to let the panel do the talking. Has done a few interviews for IRFU's internet channel which have been grand. And heck even if he does butt in the odd time, he is actually qualified to do so.

Yeah, I've seen those videos too and I agree with you. He's certainly not the worse option by any means so hopefully in time he'll be given a go.

padser

padser wrote: »

Rubbish. Sexton would make a far better host.

ROG knows how to close out a TV show in fairness

rrpc

George Hook wrote: »

Horgan is coming on rightly, I think he just rushes his delivery of the technical things and with a bit more experience he should stop that. But he's made a good transition from player to working in-front of the camera, not a lot of players are able to do that well, so my I tip my hat to him and hope he continues to improve.

I think he rushes his delivery because he's so constantly interrupted. It'd become an almost reflex habit.

artvandelay48

Morf wrote: »

Eoin McDevitt (who I very much like as a journalist) doesn't know what to do physically on TV. Keep an eye on his hand/arm gestures on Second Captains Live. Not that I'd see it as an insurmountable obstacle but it isn't fantastic optics.

Bring back Matty Williams, Franno and Dr. Emmet Byrne. As long as Matty isn't allowed to mention 7s . . . .

Is Shag Horgan pursuing a career in Law in London? That might be an obstacle to greater TV commitments in Ireland.

Matty Williams? Shag Horgan? You've just highlighted what's wrong with Matt Williams right there.

.ak

Unfortunately we just don't have decent media talent in this country. That's not to say we, as Irish people, aren't good at it, quite the contrary, but all the good ones go over seas. Why work for RTE, which imo is a joke shop production, when you can work for BT or BBC or Sky?

For all the stick he gets guys like Craig Doyle are far, far better anchors than McGuirk or O'Brien.

Sheehan and Quinlan tonight. This isn't going to be painful clichéd or munster preferenced at all...

Morf

artvandelay48 wrote: »

Matty Williams? Shag Horgan? You've just highlighted what's wrong with Matt Williams right there.

Tongue may have been somewhat in cheek at points.

phog

Deleted User wrote: »

Sheehan and Quinlan tonight. This isn't going to be painful clichéd or munster preferenced at all...

Did you survive?

phog

phog wrote: »

Did you survive?

Yeah twas grand, They think we should play it loose against Wales though to score more try's. Can't say I agree.

Swiwi.

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah twas grand, They think we should play it loose against Wales though to score more try's. Can't say I agree.

I would say that is exactly what Wales would want. Why change a good thing? The gameplan to date has seen no side come up with the right answers.

errlloyd

I don't fully remember, but didn't we shake things up last year against Wales? Gatland spent the whole week before the game saying he knew exactly what we were going to do, then we did something else?

Buer

The Welsh wouldn't like a loose, high tempo, off the cuff offloading game. That's never been their way.

Sweet mother.

Beating Wales has always been through a really tight, effective pack performance. All or our points last season came through the breakdown and set piece. Why would we want to employ a game that would play right into the natural Welsh game?

Gatland might like his crash rugby but the Welsh players are very comfortable flinging the ball and getting on the shoulder of the carrier in open play; much more than we are.

Buer

errlloyd wrote: »

I don't fully remember, but didn't we shake things up last year against Wales? Gatland spent the whole week before the game saying he knew exactly what we were going to do, then we did something else?

We mauled.

Then we mauled some more.

After that, we took a few minutes to think about our next move.

And went to the maul.

errlloyd

errlloyd wrote: »

I don't fully remember, but didn't we shake things up last year against Wales? Gatland spent the whole week before the game saying he knew exactly what we were going to do, then we did something else?

Not really. We won last year by shutting down their big carriers, and we got a lot of joy through the maul and the likes. It was pretty typical of what we've seen this season in the 6N.

bilston

Buer wrote: »

The Welsh wouldn't like a loose, high tempo, off the cuff offloading game. That's never been their way.

I haven't watched it yet but who on earth said that?

Buer

bilston wrote: »

I haven't watched it yet but who on earth said that?

Me being facetious.