Music you just don't get

Da Shins Kelly

RADIUS wrote: »

I am not talking about all hip-hop I am talking about gangster rap.

Gangster rap wouldn't be my favourite branch of hip hop, but it has its place. NWA, for example, were a hugely important group. The whole sub-genre evolved from hardcore hip hop like Wu-Tang and Mobb Deep, who are great groups.

The likes of Tupac and the Notorious BIG wouldn't be my first port of call.

RADIUS

joydivision wrote: »

Why do rap fans get so offended . If you said joy division were crap . Id read it and think ah he just doesnt get it .
But say rap is crap and im a racist idiot . I havnt even heard every hip hop song so what would I know. How dare I ? Sure Im typing on me phone and me spelling is bad what would I know about taking a perfectly good song and using a basic rythme about how mad I am in a two tone scat to enhance the song .
Im triple 8
I make the song great
Been slappin bitches since I was 8
Drink 40s at my gate
Pump a bit of weight .
When I do this over the cave by that mumford and sons band its gonna rock.
Ill call it mumford and sins because Im deep .

Damn best rap lyrics I've ever heard anyway.:pac:

JJJJNR

Rodrigo Y Gabriella - listened to their first album and im sure some of the guitars were out of tune on some songs, after that I suppose its interesting but there was such hype over that first album I thought they were going to be amazing.

joydivision

I acually have a song partially recorded and I ad a gap there for a guitar solo . Do any of the rap fans have the capabilities to receive an mp3 file and record a rap on it for me . Just for exploring what itd sound like .

Da Shins Kelly

JJJJNR wrote: »

Rodrigo Y Gabriella - listened to their first album and im sure some of the guitars were out of tune on some songs, after that I suppose its interesting but there was such hype over that first album I thought they were going to be amazing.

I actually know a Mexican girl and was talking to her about them and she said musicians like them are a dime a dozen in Mexico and reckons that their popularity overseas has more to do with the fact that people in these parts just aren't that familiar with it and so it has a novelty appeal.

joydivision

Yo shins dog you wanna lay down a rap for my album . Its about to drop like a bitchs weight after I lock her in my basement .
You will hear the empty part this is where the rap goes. Itll be like the gorrillaz I reckon .
http://m.soundcloud.com/qwerty-irl
edit .
wrong link there pick the song called whiskey that needs the rap .

You only get one shot dididumdum . One opertunity .

Pace2008

I'm seeing some eerie similarities in posting style and bizarre grammatical errors between joydivision and a certain banned troll from this thread...

joydivision

Can this banned troll rap young jeezee.

Pace2008

joydivision wrote: »

Can this banned troll rap young jeezee.

About as well as he can spell, punctuate and express a cogent opinion on musical topics.

joydivision

Pace2008 wrote: »

About as well as he can spell, punctuate and express a cogent opinion on musical topics.

Was that the first line .
I lift weights on my porch strong like horse , its like piston pumping robotics .

Is this a good second line . Do you like my flow dog .

Raif Severance

I try to be very open-minded when it comes to music, but there are really some things that leaves an unpleasant expression in my ears.

Bob Dylan- I always feel like nodding off to any of his songs. It doesn't help that he sounds bored when he's singing. I actually prefer The Byrds and his son's Wallflower's version to his originals.

Country Music- I just don't get the appeal of this one. It's up there with Rap as the 2 Muscial Genre that I definitely avoid. Though I must say in defense of Rap, there are some Rap Songs that I can appreciate and/or at least tolerate. Not with Country. I can't for the life of me, think of one Country Song that I enjoyed listening too. Be that as it may, I still think Rappers are the most talentless musical artists around.

bodhrandude

joydivision wrote: »

Apart from the revolution will not be televised I have yet to see anything Id call good poetry . Some of eminems stuff is good but its more funny riming than a social commentary .

Gil Scott Heron was the business I would also quote James Brown for examples of early rap. Hip Hop became famous through the likes of the Sugarhill Gang rapping over Chic instrumentals, I prefer the much colder and realistic Grandmaster Flash and his single The Message. I left school that year in 1982 and this was the first rap single to show poverty and the seedier side to the US.

Green Giant

Republic of Loose - just not for me but best of luck to em

flyswatter

Agree on the message by Grandmaster flash, very important track, pretty special.

patakadarragh

Screamo, emo, all that stuff where the fellas wear eyeliner and that, musically can respect some of it but don't understand the appeal whatsoever.

flyswatter

patakadarragh wrote: »

Screamo, emo, all that stuff where the fellas wear eyeliner and that, musically can respect some of it but don't understand the appeal whatsoever.

Well on the appeal thing , isn't it obvious enough that there are lots of angsty teenagers around?

patakadarragh

flyswatter wrote: »

Well on the appeal thing , isn't it obvious enough that there are lots of angsty teenagers around?

Well then they might get it, but i don't, isn't that what this thread is about?

flyswatter

patakadarragh wrote: »

Well then they might get it, but i don't, isn't that what this thread is about?

Yes. Sorry, I read your last point in general terms for some reason!

SilverScreen

patakadarragh wrote: »

Screamo, emo, all that stuff where the fellas wear eyeliner and that, musically can respect some of it but don't understand the appeal whatsoever.

I find that emo and screamo are two of the most misused terms in music in modern times, the same way that people refer to stuff like Skrillex as dubstep.

Emo or emocore or emotional hardcore was born out of hardcore punk in the mid-80s as a reaction to the restrictions and increasing machoness of hardcore at the time. Bands began to add more melody and adopt more personal lyrical themes. One such band were Embrace (not to be confused with the 90s britpop band Embrace) who were formed by Minor Threat vocalist Ian MacKaye after the dissolution of said band. Other bands included Rites Of Spring, Dag Nasty, Indian Summer and Moss Icon. Ian MacKaye's response to the term 'emocore' was "as if hardcore wasn't emotional enough to begin with." These bands were far removed from what the wider public views as 'emo' today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USiqsYlfTLA

When the original wave of emo splintered in the early 90s bands began to combine it's influence with alternative rock and indie-emo (or indiemo for short) was born. This was the style that was generally referred to as 'emo' during the 90's and such bands included Sunny Day Real Estate, Cap'n Jazz, Braid, American Football and early Jimmy Eat World.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMkH6xi6-Og

(Yes that's Nate Mendel of Foo Fighters on bass)

On the other side of the coin some bands took the original wave of emo and took it to a whole new level, adopting complex song structures, odd time-signatures and screamed vocals and, yes you've guessed it, screamo was born. Example bands included Saetia, Circle Takes The Square, City Of Caterpillar and Jerome's Dream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTYRbgy4NwQ

By the way none of these bands wore eye-liner, nail-polish or the likes (apart from female band members I guess), they dressed like relatively normal people. I'm not sure where this whole 'scenester' image thing came to be or how bands like My Chemical Romance became associated with emo. But just like any musical genre that has emerged over the decades the definition seems to change or get warped by the media when it starts to become popular. It happened to punk, it happened to grunge and it happened to emo.

patakadarragh

Zero1986 wrote: »

I find that emo and screamo are two of the most misused terms in music in modern times, the same way that people refer to stuff like Skrillex as dubstep.

Emo or emocore or emotional hardcore was born out of hardcore punk in the mid-80s as a reaction to the restrictions and increasing machoness of hardcore at the time. Bands began to add more melody and adopt more personal lyrical themes. One such band were Embrace (not to be confused with the 90s britpop band Embrace) who were formed by Minor Threat vocalist Ian MacKaye after the dissolution of said band. Other bands included Rites Of Spring, Dag Nasty, Indian Summer and Moss Icon. Ian MacKaye's response to the term 'emocore' was "as if hardcore wasn't emotional enough to begin with." These bands were far removed from what the wider public views as 'emo' today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USiqsYlfTLA

When the original wave of emo splintered in the early 90s bands began to combine it's influence with alternative rock and indie-emo (or indiemo for short) was born. This was the style that was generally referred to as 'emo' during the 90's and such bands included Sunny Day Real Estate, Cap'n Jazz, Braid, American Football and early Jimmy Eat World.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMkH6xi6-Og

(Yes that's Nate Mendel of Foo Fighters on bass)

On the other side of the coin some bands took the original wave of emo and took it to a whole new level, adopting complex song structures, odd time-signatures and screamed vocals and, yes you've guessed it, screamo was born. Example bands included Saetia, Circle Takes The Square, City Of Caterpillar and Jerome's Dream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTYRbgy4NwQ

By the way none of these bands wore eye-liner, nail-polish or the likes (apart from female band members I guess), they dressed like relatively normal people. I'm not sure where this whole 'scenester' image thing came to be or how bands like My Chemical Romance became associated with emo. But just like any musical genre that has emerged over the decades the definition seems to change or get warped by the media when it starts to become popular. It happened to punk, it happened to grunge and it happened to emo.

Okay good point, perhaps i should have said "emo of late" as in what people refer to as emo lately nowadays, MCR, Black veil brides... i just dont get a lot of it. Screamed vocals i really dont get either, im just too mellow for that I guess

On another note, i have a strong dislike, even an irrational (at times) dislike for pop punk of late. GImme Blink or Early green day sure they were a bit of craic fun music like. But all time low, We the Kings, You me at six, i dunno what it is about them, i just can't stand that genre and never "got" them.

SilverScreen

patakadarragh wrote: »

Okay good point, perhaps i should have said "emo of late" as in what people refer to as emo lately nowadays, MCR, Black veil brides... i just dont get a lot of it. Screamed vocals i really dont get either, im just too mellow for that I guess

On another note, i have a strong dislike, even an irrational (at times) dislike for pop punk of late. GImme Blink or Early green day sure they were a bit of craic fun music like. But all time low, We the Kings, You me at six, i dunno what it is about them, i just can't stand that genre and never "got" them.

That whole 'scene kid' thing I never got. From my observations it was like some sort of cycle where the kids were trying to out-scene each other and eventually they got sucked into some sort of black, eyeliner-clad hole. It seems to have died out now though, I don't see as many of them as I used to a few years ago, although that's just from my perspective.

Pop-punk I used to like when I was younger. Bands like Sum 41 and NOFX seemed fun a decade ago but eventually I just grew out of it and moved onto better stuff. I have no idea what's dubbed pop-punk these days.

Lennonist

Never really understood how Coldplay got to be such a big band, very bland is how I'd describe them.

flyswatter

I enjoy pop punk still, NOFX a small bit and Offspring, Blink 182, stuff like that. Also lesser known bands like Millencolin, Lagwagon, Bodyjar. Basically a lot of stuff that was on the Tony Hawk computer game soundtrack. Still quite fun to listen to.

Lennonist

Raif Severance wrote: »

I try to be very open-minded when it comes to music, but there are really some things that leaves an unpleasant expression in my ears.

Bob Dylan- I always feel like nodding off to any of his songs. It doesn't help that he sounds bored when he's singing. I actually prefer The Byrds and his son's Wallflower's version to his originals.

Ah now, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but Dylan is a legend.

CUPimus

Eminem

Da Shins Kelly

I will never understand how Michael Buble has gotten so big from what he does. He's basically a sh*tty version of Frank Sinatra singing standards that have been sung far better by much better singers years ago. Seriously, how can anyone buy his version of songs like Feeling Good, when there's Nina Simone's version? I will never understand it.

Sl!mCharles

Cannibal Corpse - the music ain't terrible, I do not however enjoy the growled vocals at all.

Washington Irving

90% of the sh!te in the charts that most people here don't 'get' either. It's all the same and it's all terrible. (Boy bands wailing into microphones, pop with no real instruments or vocals, songs that sound like a thousand other ones that have come before it).


Classical. I can appreciate it but I don't get why people (particularly younger people) would listen to it much.


Led Zeppelin. I like them but don't get the god-like status they have.

Bob Dylan. See above.

karaokeman

Zero1986 wrote: »

I have no idea what's dubbed pop-punk these days.

Neither do I, was thinking Green Day but the road they've gone down in recent times I would prob describe as just pop.

lolo62

I don't get what Riff Raff is about, came across him on YouTube and although I don't get it I am intrigued

flyswatter

karaokeman wrote: »

Neither do I, was thinking Green Day but the road they've gone down in recent times I would prob describe as just pop.

American idiot was a great pop punk single, the likes of Boulevard of Broken Dreams is them going for a grown up sound and basically trying to get a bigger audience and really crossover.

Declan A Walsh

I have never been a big country fan, but there is one variant in particular I just don't get... and that is "Country and Western" music - in other words Irish Country. What some forms of American Country has going for it is the folk connection. Irish CW does not have that. It is just a badly derivative, tedious, depressing experience.

grenache

Lennonist wrote: »

Ah now, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but Dylan is a legend.

Legendary song-writer.

Below average singer.

joydivision

mumford and sons . Liked them at first but the banjo player seems to play the same tune nearly everysong he just changes what key he plays it in .

kunst nugget

grenache wrote: »

Legendary song-writer.

Below average singer.

When I've got songs like this to wash over me I don't give a fig what way people rate his singing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WxGLxP4Ur0

cometogether

Never really rated Springsteen that much tbh

Lennonist

kunst nugget wrote: »

When I've got songs like this to wash over me I don't give a fig what way people rate his singing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WxGLxP4Ur0

Have been looking for Desolation Row on youtube, mightn't be there for long. Dylan usually gets people to remove a lot of his original recordings that people put up on Youtube.

kunst nugget

Lennonist wrote: »

Have been looking for Desolation Row on youtube, mightn't be there for long. Dylan usually gets people to remove a lot of his original recordings that people put up on Youtube.

Yeh, I'm guessing it won't be there for long and I reckon it was probably mistitled Desolation Road on purpose.

Lennonist

kunst nugget wrote: »

Yeh, I'm guessing it won't be there for long and I reckon it was probably mistitled Desolation Road on purpose.

You might find an original version on vimeo sometimes as well.

cometogether

Saw Tom Petty on the telly today. Christ, how to people listen to boring rubbish like that?

WoollyRedHat

Nursery rymes... just don't see the appeal really.

OisinS94

joydivision wrote: »

mumford and sons . Liked them at first but the banjo player seems to play the same tune nearly everysong he just changes what key he plays it in .

Agree with this. When I first heard "little lion man" I thought it was very inventive and something different.... but since then every song has been basically the exact same as it with only slight subtle changes and obviously the lyrics and chorus being different.

nocoverart

joydivision wrote: »

mumford and sons . Liked them at first but the banjo player seems to play the same tune nearly everysong he just changes what key he plays it in .

I liked them for like a week and the novelty wore off quick! I predict the same thing will happen to that band The Lumineers ( they sing that song on the Sky Sports ad ) they will ejaculate quicker than a pimply faced 15 year old boy. Now this one hurts me a little, but Joy Division? I tried and tried but really never done it for me.

karaokeman

Joy Division can be quite challenging at times.

Its different from a lot of what would generally be labelled "classic rock" because its very dark, but when you get into it, they are really rewarding.

LeBash

Coldplay and the Eagles.

I know Coldplay have a huge following and not just braindead radio listeners that wouldn't know anything except a single. I know plenty of people who's musical opinions that I respect but I found them bland and boring, the lyrics are somewhat predictable. I did like the piano from the song clocks until it was played to death.

As for the Eagles. If they aren't good enough for "the Dude" they aren't good enough for LeBash.

karaokeman

LeBash wrote: »

Coldplay and the Eagles.

I know Coldplay have a huge following and not just braindead radio listeners that wouldn't know anything except a single. I know plenty of people who's musical opinions that I respect but I found them bland and boring, the lyrics are somewhat predictable. I did like the piano from the song clocks until it was played to death.

As for the Eagles. If they aren't good enough for "the Dude" they aren't good enough for LeBash.

I love Coldplay but I've recently come to terms with the fact I've outgrown their last three albums, Parachutes and A Rush of Blood, I still love and always will, those two define Coldplay for me and everything since then has been filler (barr Fix You) milked out for the masses.

I only know the Eagles obvious stuff so I can't really comment on them.

Rothko

karaokeman wrote: »

Joy Division can be quite challenging at times.

Its different from a lot of what would generally be labelled "classic rock" because its very dark, but when you get into it, they are really rewarding.

I don't think they sound like classic rock at all or ever seen them labelled as such.

Lightbulb Sun

Pearl Jam. Eddie Vedders style of singing just became very irritating quickly to me.

Dude111

I dont get this HIP HOP trash on the radio now,its totally disgusting!!


Rap is GOOD,R&B is good but TODAYS HIP HOP blows!!

Jimmy Iovine

Dude111 wrote: »

I dont get this HIP HOP trash on the radio now,its totally disgusting!!


Rap is GOOD,R&B is good but TODAYS HIP HOP blows!!

Don't listen to the radio then.