If you had the same job would you go home?

hussey

No I would not.

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hussey

No I would not.

Xavi6 wrote: »

I think people's perception of 'their Ireland' and the reality of the country are two different things.

If you've been in Oz a good while, as Doc says, it's no longer a case where your mates all live around the corner from each other and catch up down the pub, everyone's moved on. I'm here almost six years and in my head it's just like it was when I left and that leads to the sentiment, depressing days etc.

I'm going back in two weeks for six weeks and I cannot wait because it's two years since I've seen everyone, and the quality time spent with friends and family will be far better than it would be if we were living half an hour from each other.

I guess the point I'm making is if you're happy here then you should focus on that rather than lamenting over something that doesn't actually exist.

Well said, I am in a very very similar boat, I left in 2005 and I just turned 26, that was the height of the boom, I was making decent money so were my friends, most were buying houses had cars and I was usually going out thurs, friday, saturday. I really enjoyed it. But came traveling because a friend was and went with him. When I think of Ireland I still think those great times.
I usually go home 3/4weeks every 18months, and have a great time, a lot of my friends all say the same thing: life is nothing like 7 years ago, most saturday nights for them is xfactor, indian & cans. Over here I am fairly active (oztag, cycling, running, coastal walks) it's something I usually take for granted. For (mostly) visa reasons I am a IT contractor so am making good money. There are plenty of jobs for me at home, but I know I would have to give up a good social life here, and although I would be fine going home, I don't think I want to.
If I was to go home, it would be to stay closer to family or else settle down (house etc) or else a girl. It probably wouldn't be for $ or job.
I usually assess every 6-12months and say "Am I happy?" If yes - stay, if No .... well I haven't come to that yet.
But offer me the same contractor rates at home and I would consider it (at the moment looks to be about 30-40% less)

jank

I left Ireland in 2008 a week after Lehmans brothers collapsed.... so to say my timing was good is an understatement! Then again it was very hard to get a job in NZ when I arrived.

Anyway, I echo the same thoughts above. Most of my friends no longer live in Ireland. I suppose I was one of the first of my group to go, yet for some reason I may expect it to be the same if I go back but I know that wont be the case. A lot of them have moved on because there is little work for them there. Being in IT I know I would be able to pick up something fairly decent at home or the very least in the UK where I know my skills would get me a fairly decent job with decent pay. I am going to save that option for another time though.

Australia is going fine for me at the moment, not sure if I am going to be a lifer, I dont think that will be the case but I am holding out to get my blue book in the next 12 months, after that I will look at things again.

TBH, I just want to do more travelling before I settle down. Australia with its high wages will let me do that for now. I just want to put my head down and save for the next 12-18 months or so. Things are easy enough here, going to be back in ireland for Christmas which I am looking for to. I hope I wont hear much doom and gloom about the economy as I am over that!

Pisco Sour

jank wrote: »

TBH, I just want to do more travelling before I settle down. Australia with its high wages will let me do that for now. I just want to put my head down and save for the next 12-18 months or so. Things are easy enough here, going to be back in ireland for Christmas which I am looking for to. I hope I wont hear much doom and gloom about the economy as I am over that!

Genuinely came across very little negativity when I was back (though the Olympics were on so maybe that had many people in good spirits). I only surrounded myself with positive people though. On one of my last days I met my friend's parents and the negativity was so ridiculously OTT. They were telling me I'd be an idiot to ever come back. Kind of funny they were telling me this at the same time I was feeling extremely sad and homesick at the thoughts of leaving again the next day.

Ireland, like anywhere, is what you make of it.

The Aussie

jank wrote: »

going to be back in ireland for Christmas which I am looking for to. I hope I wont hear much doom and gloom about the economy as I am over that!

With the budget due on the 5th of December I think you will be getting your ear chewed off about the economy, tune out to it, i wont be listening to the news for the whole of December if i can get away with it, if your working back here its actually better living here now than it was in late 2006 when the wife and I fled the place for a few years, even the much maligned construction industry is better than the media portrays, Ireland is so much better for us at this point in time that we sold up in Oz and brought a big stupid size house here in Cork for buttons, when in 2006 you could not have payed me to stay here

jank

Interesting I didnt find much negativity when I was back in April unlike the last time which was unbearable at times. Budget is out as was said on the 5th of Dec. so I expect some finger wagging and the usual...

hussey

No I would not.

I was back in July and I didn't get much negativity, people just seemed to over it, when I went back in April 11 (first time in 18months) and everyone just wanted to talk recession, jobs, emigration etc.

Everything was 'Sure there's no recession with you'.

But if I was to go home, I could buy a very good house for 50-60% off(compared to 09) have a decent job, but that's me personally. I'm in IT so I am pretty lucky. Others don't even have an option of a job at home.

Traq

Australia is going fine for me at the moment, not sure if I am going to be a lifer, I dont think that will be the case but I am holding out to get my blue book in the next 12 months, after that I will look at things again.

TBH, I just want to do more travelling before I settle down. Australia with its high wages will let me do that for now. I just want to put my head down and save for the next 12-18 months or so.

That sums up my take on my time here too. I've been here 5+ years now, but still am not sure if I'd like to stay out here for good. I'll qualify for citizenship early next year and will definitely get that sorted before I even think about moving on. Everything here is going great for me at the moment so there's no overwhelming desire to leave, but ultimately I think I'd like to move back to Europe.

jank

One thing I do like about Australia is that they tend to treat wage earners like adults. I like the way one can file a tax return and claim back on certain expenses accured over the year. In Ireland the government treats us like kids who cant be trusted, can you imagine Irish people filling in a tax return? They would fleece the place dry yet then complain that there are waiting lists for hip replacements. :rolleyes:

I know I say this all the time but the sense of entitlement in Ireland is massive. Here, people just get on with it. I like the fact that the Liberals (even though Tony Abbot is a knob) have a core sense that large government is not the way to go. Liberalism seems to be at the core of Australia, in Ireland its non existant.
NZ is kinda the same, must stem from the emigrant psyche. Very hard to undo a few hundred years of the colonial mindset we have developed.

/been thinking of the budget in Ireland and the same ol voices will be shouting their heads off.... hence the rant above.

Doc

I don't know.

jank wrote: »

I like the fact that the Liberals (even though Tony Abbot is a knob) have a core sense that large government is not the way to go. Liberalism seems to be at the core of Australia, in Ireland its non existant.

It always struck me as odd that they are called the Liberals when most of them are actually conservatives. When I first got here I saw that the Labor party where in power and the Liberals where in opposition and I though "Wow the two major parties are both lefties that's weird." That illusion didn't last too long.

jank

Doc wrote: »

It always struck me as odd that they are called the Liberals when most of them are actually conservatives. When I first got here I saw that the Labor party where in power and the Liberals where in opposition and I though "Wow the two major parties are both lefties that's weird." That illusion didn't last too long.

A true liberal should pride both social liberties and economic liberties.

Many liberals of the crusty kind preach free love but would in a heart beat vote in favour of extra government powers to take away more of your money and property never mind 'equality' legislation. I am sick to death of seeing socialist and Marxist crap posted all over the city. Who are these lunatics?

On the other side people who are pro business often have moral values that they want to push i.e legislate on others.

What I like about Australia is that it offers people more freedom to do what they want. If you want to pay for sex, you can ... legally, not that I would. Did I hear cannabis is legal in ACT? Australians genuinely do have a bit of a libertarian streak in them. They even have their own party although bit of a fringe group.

http://www.ldp.org.au/

catbear

I don't know.

If I had the same job I would go home except for two things, the weather and the entitlement culture Jank talks about in Ireland.
While Australia never really floated my boat I am very happy to be here, however I can not see myself settling down either here or in Ireland. I'd be happy to keep experiencing new cultures.

TKline

I don't know.

No chance. Miserable weather, gloomy economy = gloomy people. I'll stay here in the sun.