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The Cathars: A Sane Religion? Pope Had them All Killed BTW.

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  • #52
    LittleBook
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭LittleBook


    Shryke wrote: »
    Is the castle building game Carcasonne in anyway related to this period of history?

    It's named after the city of Carcassonne which (along with Montségur) is at the heart of "Cathar country" (pays cathare) in the South of France. It was designed by a German guy and is based in medieval times.

    I used to live near the area and spent many a happy weekend exploring the castles, fortresses, hill/cliff-top and medieval towns in the region. A truly beautiful place with a fascinating history.

    Some of my favourites:

    Saint Cirq Lapopie

    Saint Bertrand de Comminge

    Albi

    Lauzerte

    Lautrec

    Cordes-sur-Ciel


  • #53
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

    How did they not believe in God, yet believe in the Devil?

    Well they did in a way. Their version of evil was "rex mundi" which meant king of the world.


  • #54
    FullblownRose
    Registered Users Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭FullblownRose


    Yeah, it seems like they were a decent crowd! :) Kate Moss's book 'Labrynth' is about the story of the Cathars.


  • #55
    LiamMc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭LiamMc


    Gorgeous photos.

    The Albigensian Crusade (1209) was raised against Christian heretics including the Cathars, by Pope Innocent III. It was a little bit of a land-grab by returning Knights Templars from the Eastern Mediterranean.
    http://home.eckerd.edu/~oberhot/cathar.htm
    http://www.halexandria.org/dward220.htm

    The "God will know his own" quote is attributed to a Papal legate, Arnaud Armaury (Cistercian, Abbot of monastery in Catalan and later Tarn-et-Garonne area).

    A less fortunate Papal Inquisitor was Peter of Verona who was murdered in 1252, believed to be by Cathar sympathisers. Within a month, Pope Innocent IV, issued the Papal Bull Ad extirpanda, that allowed the getting of information by duress.
    (PDF document from the 13thC.)
    http://www.documentacatholicaomnia.eu/01p/1252-05-15,_SS_Innocentius_IV,_Bulla_'Ad_Extirpanda',_EN.pdf

    "The Podestà or Rector has the authority to oblige all heretics that he may have in his power, without breaking limbs or endangering their lives, to confess their errors and to accuse other heretics whom they may know, as true assassins of souls and thieves of the Sacraments of God and of the Christian faith, and their worldly goods, and believers in their doctrines, those who receive them and defend them, just as robbers and thieves of temporal goods are obliged to accuse their accomplices and confess the evil that they have done."

    Other photos:
    cahors.jpg

    Further reading:
    Thomas Aquinas on Torture
    http://catholicsensibility.wordpress.com/2006/04/29/114633381931140970/


    Albigensian Crusade
    http://www.the-orb.net/textbooks/crusade/albig.html


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