Rafa New Chelsea Manager . .

monkey9

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

And then get sacked

Yep, you're bang on there buddy. And that sums up your club

monkey9

Rafa is a proven better manager than Guardiola. Chelsea and their fans are funny!

monkey9

Can you imagine if Rafa accused someone of attempted murder??

Will I Amnt

monkey9 wrote: »

Can you imagine if Rafa accused someone of attempted murder??

Can you imagine if Fergie did??
Oh wait... he did and nobody has shut the f**k up about it for the past 12 hours across multiple threads. Leading me to the conclusion it would probably be just the same if Rafa did.

monkey9

cambo2008 wrote: »

Can you imagine if Fergie did??
Oh wait... he did and nobody has shut the f**k up about it for the past 12 hours across multiple threads. Leading me to the conclusion it would probably be just the same if Rafa did.

Oh right..........he's cracking up etc etc etc!

Will I Amnt

monkey9 wrote: »

Oh right..........he's cracking up etc etc etc!

Yea man etc. etc. etc.

monkey9

cambo2008 wrote: »

Yea man etc. etc. etc.

Aw sh!t, did I forget to add where he's laughing into his glass of wine? Etc etc etc

So Liverpool fans, how does this fit into Agent Rafa's masterplan?

Duck Soup

Deleted User wrote: »

So Liverpool fans, how does this fit into Agent Rafa's masterplan?

Lure us Chelsea fans into a sense of false security. Hasn't fooled me for a minute. :pac:

Duck Soup

Duck Soup wrote: »

Lure us Chelsea fans into a sense of false security. Hasn't fooled me for a minute. :pac:

And what does Chelsea's league position have to do with Liverpool's? :pac:

Will I Amnt

Some Liverpool fans new found fondness for Chelsea is priceless.
The same folk who were sticking the boot in about plastic fans with no history, turning up in match threads when things were not going their way.
It's like they have adopted Chelsea as their second team now.

When you take a step back and look at it, it really does beggar belief. Instead of hoping they crash and burn and drop into the fight for 3rd and 4th, where they hope to be involved themselves fairly soon, they are in reality cheering on a team to consolidate a top 3, leaving 1 CL space to fight over for the rest.
Hard to get my head around that one tbh.

Melion

cambo2008 wrote: »

Some Liverpool fans new found fondness for Chelsea is priceless.
The same folk who were sticking the boot in about plastic fans with no history, turning up in match threads when things were not going their way.
It's like they have adopted Chelsea as their second team now.

When you take a step back and look at it, it really does beggar belief. Instead of hoping they crash and burn and drop into the fight for 3rd and 4th, where they hope to be involved themselves fairly soon, they are in reality cheering on a team to consolidate a top 3, leaving 1 CL space to fight over for the rest.
Hard to get my head around that one tbh.

Who has a fondness for Chelsea? I still can't stand them as a club, can't stand a few of their players, their owner is a disgrace as are a lot of the fans.

tayto lover

The Chelsea diehards will be eating out of Rafa's hands in a week.

Will I Amnt

Melion wrote: »

Who has a fondness for Chelsea? I still can't stand them as a club, can't stand a few of their players, their owner is a disgrace as are a lot of the fans.

But you still want them to do well because Rafa is there?

citytillidie

Melion wrote: »

Who has a fondness for Chelsea? I still can't stand them as a club, can't stand a few of their players, their owner is a disgrace as are a lot of the fans.

Dont you know by now if 1 Liverpool fan says something off the wall then its all Liverpool fans saying it

Will I Amnt

citytillidie wrote: »

Dont you know by now if 1 Liverpool fan says something off the wall then its all Liverpool fans saying it

I said SOME Liverpool fans in my post, might want to read before jumping in there.

Leiva

cambo2008 wrote: »

I said SOME Liverpool fans in my post, might want to read before jumping in there.

"some" - how long is a piece of string ?


Best to direct quote the one person, no?

Will I Amnt

Leiva wrote: »

"some" - how long is a piece of string ?


Best to direct quote the one person, no?

I know who they are, that's all that matters to me. I'm pretty sure others have noticed it too.

spockety

I would love to see Rafa win the league even if it meant Chelsea did too. It would vindicate my long held view that he is in the top bracket, and would make fools of all the idiots I had to listen to over the years who said that he didn't have what it took our have the tactical nous to win it. It was almost like people really thought Rafa was holding Liverpool back and not the other way around.

Liverpool are not in the chase so it makes no odds to me which of united, city, or Chelsea win it. None of them are my " second club".

Melion

cambo2008 wrote: »

But you still want them to do well because Rafa is there?

It's a bit of a catch 22 situation, I want rafa to do well but I'd have no problem seeing chelsea being relegated to league 2.

Will I Amnt

spockety wrote: »

I would love to see Rafa win the league even if it meant Chelsea did too. It would vindicate my long held view that he is in the top bracket, and would make fools of all the idiots I had to listen to over the years who said that he didn't have what it took our have the tactical nous to win it. It was almost like people really thought Rafa was holding Liverpool back and not the other way around.

Liverpool are not in the chase so it makes no odds to me which of united, city, or Chelsea win it. None of them are my " second club".

Your first line contradicts your last paragraph.

spockety

cambo2008 wrote: »

Your first line contradicts your last paragraph.

Read it again, a few times if necessary.

Will I Amnt

Melion wrote: »

It's a bit of a catch 22 situation, I want rafa to do well but I'd have no problem seeing chelsea being relegated to league 2.

I just find that strange. If Fergie took over Chelsea/City I'd want him to fail, badly. If he took over Wigan/Reading or similar I'd want him to do well.

Will I Amnt

spockety wrote: »

Read it again, a few times if necessary.

But it does make odds to you if you would love to see Rafa win it. It's obviously Chelsea you would prefer to win the league.

spockety

The club is irrelevant. He just happens to be managing Chelsea. You may not see the logic, no matter.

Xavi6

The Church of Rafa - wherever he goes we will follow

Essien

cambo2008 wrote: »

I just find that strange. If Fergie took over Chelsea/City I'd want him to fail, badly. If he took over Wigan/Reading or similar I'd want him to do well.

As he said, Liverpool are not competing with Chelsea, so in that respect it makes no odds to him.

It's a perfectly valid point though. A lot, probably most, Liverpool fans backed Rafa to the very end (and beyond) when he was there. They adamantly maintained that he was/is a top manager, and IMO he certainly is that. If he somehow managed to win the league with Chelsea then their claims would be proven correct beyond any doubt.

It's perfectly understandable in that sense IMO.

Melion

cambo2008 wrote: »

I just find that strange. If Fergie took over Chelsea/City I'd want him to fail, badly. If he took over Wigan/Reading or similar I'd want him to do well.

Chelsea are nothing to Liverpool. We are so far away from them and the Manchesters that Chelseas league performance has no effect on Liverpool. We are not challenging the top 3 this season so I'd like wish Rafa all the best. Of course if he was to win the league the British press and therefore posters here would say he only won it because of the money available at Chelsea.

Will I Amnt

Essien wrote: »

As he said, Liverpool are not competing with Chelsea, so in that respect it makes no odds to him.

It's a perfectly valid point though. A lot, probably most, Liverpool fans backed Rafa to the very end (and beyond) when he was there. They adamantly maintained that he was/is a top manager, and IMO he certainly is that. If he somehow managed to win the league with Chelsea then their claims would be proven correct beyond any doubt.

It's perfectly understandable in that sense IMO.

It's in their best interest that Chelsea continue in the same vein as last season in the league.
The goal for them is to be back in that top 4, competing for better transfers and ultimately competing for a title, that has to be the long term plan for a club of their history and stature.

Competing alongside Chelsea and others for 2 places is better than competing below Chelsea, alongside others for 1 place.

Melion

cambo2008 wrote: »

It's in their best interest that Chelsea continue in the same vein as last season in the league.
The goal for them is to be back in that top 4, competing for better transfers and ultimately competing for a title, that has to be the long term plan for a club of their history and stature.

Competing alongside Chelsea and others for 2 places is better than competing below Chelsea, alongside others for 1 place.

Chelsea were never going to finish that low again this season. Arsenal and spurs are who we should be aiming for.

counterlock

Xavi6 wrote: »

The Church of Rafa - wherever he goes we will follow

Would you have him at city Xavi?

Essien

cambo2008 wrote: »

It's in their best interest that Chelsea continue in the same vein as last season in the league.
The goal for them is to be back in that top 4, competing for better transfers and ultimately competing for a title, that has to be the long term plan for a club of their history and stature.

Competing alongside Chelsea and others for 2 places is better than competing below Chelsea, alongside others for 1 place.

This is the reality though. I don't mean to sound cocky but it's unlikely that Liverpool will be direct competitors to Chelsea for a top 4 place this season, most reasonable 'Pool fans will concede that. The clubs long term goal doesn't come into it.

Melion

counterlock wrote: »

Would you have him at city Xavi?

Now that would be a worrying thought. Rafa with that money would dominate English football for as long as he wanted.

Will I Amnt

Melion wrote: »

Chelsea were never going to finish that low again this season. Arsenal and spurs are who we should be aiming for.

Liverpool were 4 points off Chelsea before yesterday's game. Yea they had 2 games in hand but I'd be hoping they lost them and be pissed off when they won, not lauding their performance.
Chelsea had a good start to the season but had been poor a while, I'd just be hoping they continued that.

Paul Tergat

Melion wrote: »

Now that would be a worrying thought. Rafa with that money would dominate English football for as long as he wanted.

Just when I thought the thread couldnt get any funnier. WP sir!

Melion

cambo2008 wrote: »

Liverpool were 4 points off Chelsea before yesterday's game. Yea they had 2 games in hand but I'd be hoping they lost them and be pissed off when they won, not lauding their performance.
Chelsea had a good start to the season but had been poor a while, I'd just be hoping they continued that.

With the players at their disposal and the January window upon us, do you really think they would have struggled this season?

Melion

Paul Tergat wrote: »

Just when I thought the thread couldnt get any funnier. WP sir!

A distinctly average manager won the league last season, one of the best managers in world football would have won that title at a canter last season.

Essien

cambo2008 wrote: »

Liverpool were 4 points off Chelsea before yesterday's game. Yea they had 2 games in hand but I'd be hoping they lost them and be pissed off when they won, not lauding their performance.
Chelsea had a good start to the season but had been poor a while, I'd just be hoping they continued that.

But you can hope a team loses, be pissed when they win and still laud their winning performance.

I'm sure they'd all be more than happy to catch up on us but hoping something and knowing something are two different things.

Paul Tergat

Melion wrote: »

A distinctly average manager won the league last season, one of the best managers in world football would have won that title at a canter last season.

Ah now this is not what you said is it? Dominate English football for as long as he wanted is what you said. Hillarious statement. The fanboyism for Rafa is just too funny.

Essien

Paul Tergat wrote: »

Just when I thought the thread couldnt get any funnier. WP sir!

He's not even wrong, let alone funny.

Melion

Paul Tergat wrote: »

Ah now this is not what you said is it? Dominate English football for as long as he wanted is what you said. Hillarious statement. The fanboyism for Rafa is just too funny.

Why is it hilarious?
An average manager won the title, even a United fan can recognise that Rafa would have had that title wrapped up before the game at Eastlands. With ridiculous amounts of money to spend he would have only made that team stronger, do you think Scott Sinclair and Jack Rodwell would have been signed by him?

Paul Tergat

Essien wrote: »

He's not even wrong, let alone funny.

Comical stuff.

Melion

Paul Tergat wrote: »

Comical stuff.

Want to actually add to the discussion or are you just here for the mega lOlZ?

Ordinary man

Rafa isn't even in the top 3 managers in england

quarryman

Benitez just isn't good enough to challenge for the premiership. He might be good enough for Liverpool (you'd swear the guy walked on water) and offer a chance at 4th place every now and then. But for a club with realistic title hopes it needs to be Pep or Mourinho.

It's amusing watching the Liverpool fans pipe up with "See, we told you. He's great. His heart belongs in Liverpool. He doesn't want to be on Chelsea" every time he gets a result. But the reality is he is only a stop-gap for a proper world class manager.

Essien

quarryman wrote: »

Benitez just isn't good enough to challenge for the premiership.

Apart from that time he challenged for the premiership obviously.

quarryman

Essien wrote: »

Apart from that time he challenged for the premiership obviously.

Correction. Win the premiership.

niallo27

quarryman wrote: »

Correction. Win the premiership.

Do the titles he won in Spain count, I hear that Madrid crowd and barca are decent enough.

niallo27

Ordinary man wrote: »

Rafa isn't even in the top 3 managers in england

Who is your third manager?.

Melion

quarryman wrote: »

Benitez just isn't good enough to challenge for the premiership. He might be good enough for Liverpool (you'd swear the guy walked on water) and offer a chance at 4th place every now and then. But for a club with realistic title hopes it needs to be Pep or Mourinho.

It's amusing watching the Liverpool fans pipe up with "See, we told you. He's great. His heart belongs in Liverpool. He doesn't want to be on Chelsea" every time he gets a result. But the reality is he is only a stop-gap for a proper world class manager.

What has Pep done that Rafa hasn't?