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CianRyan

Sesshoumaru wrote: »

How do you know everyone else would speak up and be happy it's just made in "jest"? Put simply, you don't know. Calling someone a fanboi is not tolerated 99% of the year, why tolerate it now?

I definitely did not say all people would be upset or that all people who make nominations do so in bad faith. I'm simply saying

1. Some people could get upset

2. Some people may not make a nomination in "jest"

If you can come up with a good rebuttal for any of those points that doesn't reference my nomination for the fanboi "award", let me know

Well that's a pile of bollocks really, people joke about that all year round.

Sesshoumaru

MugMugs wrote: »

May not make a nomination in jest? Are you trying to say that there's a conspiring club of personal abusers using the forum awards to belittle and insult others?

Wow, you actually are making a mountain out of a mile hill. Bravo

Right.... because all of humanity gets on with each other like an episode of the Carebears? I'm saying it's a system that could be abused.

Why do you think we need moderators? Seriously?

Sesshoumaru

CianRyan wrote: »

Well that's a pile of bollocks really, people joke about that all year round.

Rule one of the Motors forum charter

* No personal attacks on other members

Sure of course there is context. One regular calling another regular a fanboi. Does that mean it's okay to do so in every context?

MugMugs

Sesshoumaru wrote: »

Right.... because all of humanity gets on with each other like an episode of the Carebears? I'm saying it's a system that could be abused.

Why do you think we need moderators? Seriously?

I'm not engaging with you any further here on this topic. I've made my feelings known on your thoughts and I think you've killed the spirit of these awards enough. Take it to feedback and ill gladly engage.

Sesshoumaru

MugMugs wrote: »

I'm not engaging with you any further here on this topic. I've made my feelings known on your thoughts and I think you've killed the spirit of these awards enough. Take it to feedback and ill gladly engage.

My point was:

It was tainted to begin with because a fanboi "award" was included. Hence my first post on the matter "mean spirited".

Just to be crystal clear on the matter. I have no issue with moderation on this forum, hence no reason to take anything to Feedback. I quite enjoy talking to everyone on this forum, including (especially) those who categorically disagree with nearly every motoring opinion I've expressed

I was of two minds on this, I deleted my first response to this thread and left it a day. But I just felt strongly enough about it that I felt I had to post even though I knew it would not be popular.

166man

Sesshoumaru wrote: »

How do you know everyone else would speak up and be happy it's just made in "jest"? Put simply, you don't know. Calling someone a fanboi is not tolerated 99% of the year, why tolerate it now?

I definitely did not say all people would be upset or that all people who make nominations do so in bad faith. I'm simply saying.

1. Some people could get upset

2. Some people may not make a nomination in "jest"

If you can come up with a good rebuttal for any of those points that doesn't reference my nomination for the fanboi "award", let me know

You cannot be being serious. This is just slightly ridiculous. I couldn't give a toss if I'm.called a fanboi because, put simply, I am a fanboi and very proud of it in fact. Alfas are my favourite cars for reasons I have stated before and I will continue to voice my opinion as I like them.

That you would think that referring to a poster as a fanboi is personal abuse and a breach of the forum chater is truly pathetic, if you wish to see some real personal abuse I suggest you visit the After Hours thread and stop being bitter over an award on an online forum.

MetzgerMeister

Sesshoumaru is just jealous that he didn't win.

166man is (and always has) taken it at face value - a bit of a laugh. Nothing personal, not meant to hurt him or his feelings.

Get the fvck over it.

Big Nasty

Way to go on dragging the awards thread down Electric Man. I reckon you're just sore you didn't win fanboi yourself.

dar83

Anti-bullying today is the new 'Political Correctness' drive from recent years don't ya know.

Anything that can be construed in any way other than nice and cheery gets branded bullying nowadays, it's starting to get farcical. I know Sess hasn't said that explicitly, but it's what he getting at here and it borders on the ridiculous in this case. Practically all of the nominee's for that award are clearly biased in their views and that's what makes them stand out in relation to it, the main thing is, they know it themselves and they can joke about it (well, most of them can anyway...).

I really don't understand how some people take things posted on a forum so personally, I mean does it actually affect your day to day life?! If things upset you so easily, log off and get on with other things, you'll find life much handier! Although if people invest so much in what relative strangers have to say about them, then good luck being happy in the real world, let alone the internet!

ottostreet

Well, this page of the thread was completely ruined.

Congratulations 166man, may your posts be ever Alfa-biased. Sess, maybe you should have spoken up about this when you were nominated, and not after you lost?

Sesshoumaru

I don't mind if you want to discuss it through the prism of my personal experience. I didn't think that was necessary though.

I didn't mind being nominated, I thought it was kind of nice to be remembered in some fashion. I did mind that I had been added to a public survey without being informed about it. I posted about it a while back, but my wife had our third child just over a month ago, so I haven't had time to keep up to date on the forum lately (in reply to ottostreet). So for me it was playing catch up, I came across the thread where I was nominated, which I was actually rather chuffed about and then a little later I found there had actually been a poll conducted and finished! I was planning on getting back in to posting soon since the new lad has started sleeping a little more! I was annoyed that potentially the first time I could have known about it is if someone referenced it in a reply to a post I make.

So I didn't really feel I was participating in a joke, more simply the subject of, or butt of a joke. While I haven't had time to check in on the forum lately, I do get emails when I'm PM'd. Would it really be terrible just to send someone a PM when they've been nominated? It's not like the nominees were for most awesome poster in 2012 Is it that hard to accept that someone might not like it? or might dislike not knowing about it beforehand?

Maybe that's a useful compromise? Nominee's are simply sent a PM in advance. If I'd known in advance I'd probably have no issue. It was annoying finding out after the fact.

166man

What was annoying? That some poster(s) felt that you are a little biased in your approach to posting with regards to electric vehicles? C'Mon man, it's a bit of fun whether you knew about it or not,and if you'd won, I highly doubt you would be posting here about being "bullied"....

Gary ITR

I absolutely agree with everything sess has said here, its an utter disgrace that this kind of behaviour was allowed.

Henry Ford III

Sesshoumaru wrote: »

I don't mind if you want to discuss it through the prism of my personal experience. I didn't think that was necessary though.

I didn't mind being nominated, I thought it was kind of nice to be remembered in some fashion. I did mind that I had been added to a public survey without being informed about it. I posted about it a while back, but my wife had our third child just over a month ago, so I haven't had time to keep up to date on the forum lately (in reply to ottostreet). So for me it was playing catch up, I came across the thread where I was nominated, which I was actually rather chuffed about and then a little later I found there had actually been a poll conducted and finished! I was planning on getting back in to posting soon since the new lad has started sleeping a little more! I was annoyed that potentially the first time I could have known about it is if someone referenced it in a reply to a post I make.

So I didn't really feel I was participating in a joke, more simply the subject of, or butt of a joke. While I haven't had time to check in on the forum lately, I do get emails when I'm PM'd. Would it really be terrible just to send someone a PM when they've been nominated? It's not like the nominees were for most awesome poster in 2012 Is it that hard to accept that someone might not like it? or might dislike not knowing about it beforehand?

Maybe that's a useful compromise? Nominee's are simply sent a PM in advance. If I'd known in advance I'd probably have no issue. It was annoying finding out after the fact.

With respect I'd suggest you are taking all this way to seriously. It's the internet!

p.s. Congrats on your new arrival and best wishes for 2013.

Sesshoumaru

166man wrote: »

What was annoying? That some poster(s) felt that you are a little biased in your approach to posting with regards to electric vehicles? C'Mon man, it's a bit of fun whether you knew about it or not,and if you'd won, I highly doubt you would be posting here about being "bullied"....

I wasn't crying myself to sleep at night after finding out As I said or implied, it was for me personally "annoying" to find out after the fact. For other people it could be more than just annoying. Nothing anyone has said here has changed my mind on that and I stand by my points made! It was a public survey conducted in an online community.



I'm not looking for anyone's scalp in relation to this. I posted about this because I wanted to highlight potential issues with this kind of award and influence peoples attitudes to it. If you look at my replies I did accept that most likely it wasn't done with ill intentions and that it's not necessarily a black or white issue i.e. it's not always bad to call someone a "fanboi", there is context of course.

For me I'd like to have been informed or asked about being added to a public survey. I can't create one myself can I? so if I'm being added to one, at least let me know in advance!

Sesshoumaru

Henry Ford III wrote: »

With respect I'd suggest you are taking all this way to seriously. It's the internet!

p.s. Congrats on your new arrival and best wishes for 2013.

Thanks! Same to you and everyone else on the forum

Quazzie

Gary ITR wrote: »

I absolutely agree with everything sess has said here, its an utter disgrace that this kind of behaviour was allowed.

Says the Honda fanboi :rolleyes:

Gary ITR

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Quiet you!

But nobody has thought of the children! Won't somebody please think of the children

TestTransmission

Sesshoumaru wrote: »

I don't mind if you want to discuss it through the prism of my personal experience. I didn't think that was necessary though.

I didn't mind being nominated, I thought it was kind of nice to be remembered in some fashion. I did mind that I had been added to a public survey without being informed about it. I posted about it a while back, but my wife had our third child just over a month ago, so I haven't had time to keep up to date on the forum lately (in reply to ottostreet). So for me it was playing catch up, I came across the thread where I was nominated, which I was actually rather chuffed about and then a little later I found there had actually been a poll conducted and finished! I was planning on getting back in to posting soon since the new lad has started sleeping a little more! I was annoyed that potentially the first time I could have known about it is if someone referenced it in a reply to a post I make.

So I didn't really feel I was participating in a joke, more simply the subject of, or butt of a joke. While I haven't had time to check in on the forum lately, I do get emails when I'm PM'd. Would it really be terrible just to send someone a PM when they've been nominated? It's not like the nominees were for most awesome poster in 2012 Is it that hard to accept that someone might not like it? or might dislike not knowing about it beforehand?

Maybe that's a useful compromise? Nominee's are simply sent a PM in advance. If I'd known in advance I'd probably have no issue. It was annoying finding out after the fact.

So, you knew you had been nominated and you were chuffed and then what?You thought I was gonna make everyone draw straws?Get real will ya.

If you had such an issue with it why don't you take your own advice and PM me.

Congrats on the new arrival btw.I'm closing this now as it's been ruined tbh.