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Buying a big dog?

  • 22-11-2012 12:13am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 22


    I have an almost 2 year old staffie and i want to get another puppy this time, a big dog,my staffie rules my house and barely leaves it as he hates rain/not being by my side/being out of bed etc haha,i was thinkin an alaskan malamute or an akita? has anyone experience with these breeds and the tempermants?this dog will be mainly outside in a dog run im planning to bulid as i dont want another dog like i have now as he is just spolied to death,i would prefer a dog who enjoys being outside because i just know my family would end up spoiling a puppy and he would turn out just like my dog now
    If anyone has any ideas of big dogs that you think would suit suggestions are very welcome and also ideas of where i could get one :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭SillyMangoX


    I have an almost 2 year old staffie and i want to get another puppy this time, a big dog,my staffie rules my house and barely leaves it as he hates rain/not being by my side/being out of bed etc haha,i was thinkin an alaskan malamute or an akita? has anyone experience with these breeds and the tempermants?this dog will be mainly outside in a dog run im planning to bulid as i dont want another dog like i have now as he is just spolied to death,i would prefer a dog who enjoys being outside because i just know my family would end up spoiling a puppy and he would turn out just like my dog now
    If anyone has any ideas of big dogs that you think would suit suggestions are very welcome and also ideas of where i could get one :)

    Do you just want a dog to have stuck out in your garden for the day is it? I don't see anything wrong with your family spoiling your staffie, what other way would you want them to turn out?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    malamutes love company, so it really wouldn't be happy being outside if the staffie is inside, and when a mal is unhappy, they let you and your neighbours know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 liverpool321


    Do you just want a dog to have stuck out in your garden for the day is it? I don't see anything wrong with your family spoiling your staffie, what other way would you want them to turn out?

    no i dont want them "stuck out in the garden" my staffie can be alone by himself in the house when im not there but what i mean by spoiled is you cant even sleep in peace without him bangin at the door to get in beside ya...i want a dog who will be happy to be left alone outside when im not there and who will sleep in a kennel outside,im there most of the day so its not like hell be just shoved in there all the time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 liverpool321


    ISDW wrote: »
    malamutes love company, so it really wouldn't be happy being outside if the staffie is inside, and when a mal is unhappy, they let you and your neighbours know.
    Oh really thats a pity :( had a husky before hated being inside only problem was gettin her in the shed to sleep at night
    would really love a malamute though suc beautiful dogs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    You can't have one indoor dog and one outdoor dog, you will have jealousy issues, if you don't like the way your staffie is then retrain him, it's not his fault he has been spoiled, and there is no point in getting another dog because the very same thing will happen.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 liverpool321


    meoklmrk91 wrote: »
    You can't have one indoor dog and one outdoor dog, you will have jealousy issues, if you don't like the way your staffie is then retrain him, it's not his fault he has been spoiled, and there is no point in getting another dog because the very same thing will happen.

    ive always had one indoor dog one outdoor dog and its worked just fine :) and my staffie was so badly beaten an malnurished when i got him he deserved to be spoilt so no i wont retrain him spoiled or not hes perfect to me


  • Registered Users Posts: 41 Zackdickensdog


    A black Russian terrier maybe, huge dog


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    Oh really thats a pity :( had a husky before hated being inside only problem was gettin her in the shed to sleep at night
    would really love a malamute though suc beautiful dogs

    Mals do like being outside like sibes, but not on their own, they love company. What happened your husky?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 liverpool321


    ISDW wrote: »
    Mals do like being outside like sibes, but not on their own, they love company. What happened your husky?

    They would only be alone at night like i basically just dont want him/her sleeping in the house,she got knocked down about a year ago :(:(:(


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭BillyMitchel


    More than welcome to mind my Dogo for a few hours a day if you want experience with a big dog first!

    Don't see a problem with an inside and an outside dog either. I know plenty who do it and never have had problems.

    Big dogs take so much work and time, especially working dogs and one like a malamute! Good luck OP :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 801 ✭✭✭Wicklowandy


    Hmmmmm..:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Bigger dogs = bigger land mines in the garden. :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭BillyMitchel


    Hmmmmm..:rolleyes:

    Fantastic contribution. Where can I buy your book? :rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 93 ✭✭Berlin at night


    I have an almost 2 year old staffie and i want to get another puppy this time, a big dog,my staffie rules my house and barely leaves it as he hates rain/not being by my side/being out of bed etc haha,i was thinkin an alaskan malamute or an akita? has anyone experience with these breeds and the tempermants?this dog will be mainly outside in a dog run im planning to bulid as i dont want another dog like i have now as he is just spolied to death,i would prefer a dog who enjoys being outside because i just know my family would end up spoiling a puppy and he would turn out just like my dog now
    If anyone has any ideas of big dogs that you think would suit suggestions are very welcome and also ideas of where i could get one :)

    Why people want to get dogs to leave outside? Its pretty miserable for the dog concerned, dumped outside, bored, no attention, and a pain in the arse for the neighbours as an unhappy dog barks. I've had so much hassle from selfish neighbours who leave their f**kin' dogs out in their garden day and night barking away. Christ, I'll never understand it. I've set the council on offenders of this behaviour and its sorted them out, but its a pain in the backside having to make all that effort just so people can have a dog living in their garden that don't really want, and then get all butthurt when the council comes down on them. Think before you get another dog, mate, if you plan on dumping the poor creature outside.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    i'm sorry your dog got killed. Mals are the same as sibes, should never be allowed off lead in an unenclosed area, and obviously are big dogs, so need plenty of exercise, sibes were bred to sprint fast, whereas mals can go all day at a steady pace.

    A well bred, well socialised mal is a lovely family dog, but there are very, very few reputable breeders here. Check with the breed club to see if anyone is planning a litter. they have been puppy farmed quite a lot (not as much as sibes) and there is one line of mals with epilepsy which has led to ill health but also aggression, so if you see a dog called bassbarr pulling power anywhere in the pedigree, walk away. Make sure that the parents have been hip scored, with such a big dog, hip dysplasia can be an issue. As a breed they can also have same gender aggression, which is why it is really important to make sure you get a well socialised pup from a breeder who knows what they're doing. When the dog is old enough, get a harness and a scooter or a rig, and get it out working - but be warned, it is addictive and you may end up with more than one :D

    There are quite a few mals in rescues around the country, so could be worth looking at www.irishanimals.ie to see all the rescues and see if there are any that would fit in with your family. A lot of rescues won't rehome a dog to someone who will have the dog sleeping outside, with a breed such as a malamute, I wouldn't have an issue, but wouldn't like just one dog to be out there, as they really are a pack animal and love company.

    Can't advise on akitas I'm afraid, but hopefully someone can come on with knowledge and experience and give you advice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 liverpool321


    Why people want to get dogs to leave outside? Its pretty miserable for the dog concerned, dumped outside, bored, no attention, and a pain in the arse for the neighbours as an unhappy dog barks. I've had so much hassle from selfish neighbours who leave their f**kin' dogs out in their garden day and night barking away. Christ, I'll never understand it. I've set the council on offenders of this behaviour and its sorted them out, but its a pain in the backside having to make all that effort just so people can have a dog living in their garden that don't really want, and then get all butthurt when the council comes down on them. Think before you get another dog, mate, if you plan on dumping the poor creature outside.

    i have already said ill be home all day i just want it to be able to kepy outside when i leave for a few hours and a night?since when cant dogs be kept outside? they are ANIMALS not teddy bears my god...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 liverpool321


    ISDW wrote: »
    i'm sorry your dog got killed. Mals are the same as sibes, should never be allowed off lead in an unenclosed area, and obviously are big dogs, so need plenty of exercise, sibes were bred to sprint fast, whereas mals can go all day at a steady pace.

    A well bred, well socialised mal is a lovely family dog, but there are very, very few reputable breeders here. Check with the breed club to see if anyone is planning a litter. they have been puppy farmed quite a lot (not as much as sibes) and there is one line of mals with epilepsy which has led to ill health but also aggression, so if you see a dog called bassbarr pulling power anywhere in the pedigree, walk away. Make sure that the parents have been hip scored, with such a big dog, hip dysplasia can be an issue. As a breed they can also have same gender aggression, which is why it is really important to make sure you get a well socialised pup from a breeder who knows what they're doing. When the dog is old enough, get a harness and a scooter or a rig, and get it out working - but be warned, it is addictive and you may end up with more than one :D

    There are quite a few mals in rescues around the country, so could be worth looking at www.irishanimals.ie to see all the rescues and see if there are any that would fit in with your family. A lot of rescues won't rehome a dog to someone who will have the dog sleeping outside, with a breed such as a malamute, I wouldn't have an issue, but wouldn't like just one dog to be out there, as they really are a pack animal and love company.

    Can't advise on akitas I'm afraid, but hopefully someone can come on with knowledge and experience and give you advice.

    Wow thanks so much for all your help i really appreciate :) im looking in to all types of big dogs but mals are really high up there in the list...could end up with 2 yet haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭Rommie


    If you want a dog that'll happily stay outside, forget about an akita. My housemate has four of them, and they all live here in the house with us. And there is no way we could leave them alone outside because they would go bloody bonkers! They are big, intelligent dogs and they need company. Akitas bond very closely to their owners and will generally freak out if they can't be with you for whatever reason. So please reconsider if you want a dog that will happily stay in a run, because an akita definitely isn't one and you may find the gate of the run ripped off its hinges


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭mel.b


    Malamutes do not always get on with other dogs of the same sex, so that is something to consider. I had a female mal and dog sat my sisters male dalmation for a few months and they loved playing together :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭FoxyVixen


    Akitas are a very strong minded dog, hugely independant and really not for anyone who doesn't research them THOROUGHLY.

    They can make fantastic indoor dogs, though some people might fall down when the see how much hair comes off when they shed twice a year :) Like Rommie said, they bond mostly to one person who will be seen as the "leader/boss". Usually this is the only person the dog will listen too but with that said, they will test your limits most days. So they'll listen to you approx. 80% of the time ;)

    They can't be left off-lead as they're on the restricted breeds list. An important note is that they have a great prey drive, so be careful around small animals and livestock.

    Socialise as a pup with everything you can think of. If there's kids coming around then let the pup get to know them. Otherwise you'll have a dog that just doesn't appreciate kids staring at them at eye level.

    Don't get on too well with dogs of the same sex. A very intelligent animal, don't for a second think that there's nothing going on behind it's goofy smile :)

    Will bark at any strangers - person or car - that come to the house. Should someone arrive that they don't know, they won't appreciate being approached, they'll mostly stand aloof but "keep an eye on the situation" :)

    They will protect you from anyone they deem to be approaching in an aggressive or threatening manner. These dogs don't scare easily.

    Best breed to ever own if you ask me. It's such a satisfying feeling getting an animal of that independance/confidence/strength to trust you, follow you and on the most part do as you ask it :) Immensely loyal and wouldn't do without one.

    You can check out a Facebook Group called "Akita World Fan Page" and get more info off many an owner who wouldn't hesitate to share their experiences.

    The only thing I'd really emphasize is that they are not like other dogs to train. It takes a huge amount of patience and time. This is an animal to be respected to get the best out of it - none of this "dominance" malarky over it or you can be sure the dog won't listen. It can take 2yrs for them to "grow up". That's a long commitment of training to get a good all round Akita.

    Sorry I could go on and on :)


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