2000 euro gaming PC

sheikhnguyen

1. What is your budget? [€2000]

2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? [Gaming] (Skyrim, Crysis 2, FPS, Witcher 2, loads of Steam titles, Metro, GTAV)

3. Do you need a copy of Windows? Yes Which is better for my purposes, 7 or 8? 8 seems to have received complaints, like from Steam for example, about not being very compatible. Microsoft office, or at least Word and Powerpoint, would be nice, too.

4. Can you use any parts from an old computer? No

5. Do you need a monitor? [no]

5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future? Current monitor is a 720p television that I connect to my pc using hdmi. I will probably use that for another year or two and then upgrade to true HD.

6. Do you need any of these peripherals? [Keyboard, mouse, speakers, camera, microphone, sd card reader, blue ray drive, USB 3]

7. Are you willing to try overclocking? To be honest, I ve never really been sure what that means. Essentially, I want this thing to be able to handle the latest game releases for a reasonable amount of time before I have to change the gpu, and then be able to play more new releases for another reasonable amount of time.

8. How can you pay? Credit Card

9. When are you purchasing? As soon as possible.


My brother is living in Japan and asked me to see if boards could help him put together a PC. All help much appreciated

tuxy

That's a huge budget and I would struggle to spend it all
I'm not sure what prices are like in Japan though.
I don't know if you can get all these parts in your location but if you need to replace parts just ask for advice here.

Item|Price
Intel Core i5-3570K Box, LGA1155|€209.08
16GB-Kit G.Skill Ares PC3-12800U CL9|€77.65
Crucial M4 256GB SSD 6,4cm (2,5")|€177.33
Seagate Barracuda 7200 3000GB, SATA 6Gb/s|€129.14
ASUS GTX680-DC2O-2GD5|€509.24
Corsair Enthusiast Series Modular TX750 V2, 750Watt|€107.05
Corsair Special Edition White Graphite Series 600T, ATX, ohne Netzteil|€161.19
ASRock Z77 Extreme4, Sockel 1155, ATX|€130.19
LG BH10LS38 Blu-Ray Brenner Retail|€69.99
Akasa AK-ICR-14 USB 3.0 6-Port Card Reader, 8,89cm (3,5"), schwarz/weiß|€20.96
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€1610.81

That system is complete overkill for 720p it would do well at resolutions above 1080p
You could use money left over to buy a really nice high res monitor.

frozenfrozen

2000 quid is enough to get 3 catleaps and a system to power it. It would be a waste to spend so much to use it on a 720p monitor..

Serephucus

Not bad at all! I'd throw one of these in as well, and you're pretty much good to go. That build also means you can upgrade to a 780 for peanuts when they arrive.

I'd maybe drop the USB 3.0 front panel thing. The case and motherboard both have USB 3.0 already, and drop to a 550W Amazon PSU and maybe Define R3 instead. That gives you about another €120, which you could use with the left over money to get a U2713.

tuxy

Yeah that would be a good cpu cooler to go with it.

I only put in the front panel because he wanted a sd card reader so it might come in handy for that. 550 watt is fine too, it's just too much money I didn't know what to do with it :P

sheikhnguyen

Thanks very much for all the advice I will forward it to him and see what he says. I told him 2000 was crazy but he wants to not have to buy anything for a few years...

Serephucus

Better value to spend ~€1,300 now, and save the money for future upgrades. There's no real way to future-proof a PC, unfortunately. The best you can do is build a machine in such a way that you allow for as many future upgrades as possible.

tuxy

The best thing to do would be not to go too crazy now, put a solid system together now. In 3 years a new graphics card would be nice and only takes 5 minutes to install. He would get 6 years minimum of playing games on high settings that way.

sheikhnguyen

word back from him. He has 4 questions

1. Why the i5 over the i7

2. If the i7 is overkill will that still be true in 5/6 years

3. Are all these parts compatible enough that a novice will be able to put them together in the tower without having to jury rig anything, or worry about parts blocking other parts etc etc?

4. Windows 7 or 8

Thanks

Serephucus

1. i7 only has Hyperthreading as an extra, which won't do anything in games, and sometimes actually hurts performance a little.

2. It won't be over-kill so much as just not used. Even if games were coded to support up to eight cores, the i7 only has eight virtual cores, which only net about a 30% improvement in the best of cases. I'd still go i5 personally.

3. They'll all work together, yes.

4. 7. Always 7.

That last one is a bit of a preference thing really. I heartily dislike the Win8 interface, and find the OS as a whole extremely clunky to use. You get a few nice features with it though, so I'd maybe get him to read up on the pros/cons of that one himself and figure out what he wants.

tuxy

3. The only part that might be tricky is a 3rd party cpu cooler (which is recommended as the stock intel one is not very good)
The instructions are not always good but there is usually online guides for help.

sheikhnguyen

Just off skype with him, he says thanks for all the help it is much appreciated. He is off to his cot and will mull it over and come back tomorrow if he has any further questions.
So thanks from both of us.

sheikhnguyen

here is what he is after buying , he says he bought slightly different RAM

1 x ($529.99) ASUS GTX680-DC2O-2GD5 GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
$529.99

1 x ($219.99) Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
$219.99

1 x ($199.99) Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
$199.99

1 x ($179.99) Corsair Special Edition White Graphite Series 600T Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
$179.99

1 x ($169.99) Seagate Barracuda STBD3000100 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Kit
$169.99

1 x ($124.99) ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
$124.99

1 x ($114.99) CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750M 750W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Semi Modular High Performance Power Supply
$114.99

1 x ($94.99) CORSAIR Hydro Series H100 (CWCH100) Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
$94.99

1 x ($49.99) G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL10D-16GBXL

Subtotal: $1719.90
Tax: $0.00
Shipping and Handling: $21.14
Total Amount: $1741.04

Serephucus

How did he buy from Newegg if he lives in Japan?

marco_polo

Please tell me having bought a $500 GPU, he is replacing the 720p television as well.

sheikhnguyen

his mate lives in Detroit and is sending it to him, and yes I think he is going to upgrade the telly too

ScumLord

tuxy wrote: »

That's a huge budget and I would struggle to spend it all

It's easy to spend that kind of money, raid 10 on your ssds would be a good start, multi monitor set up, dual graphics cards. This guy obviously just wants to have an expensive PC.