Mexes Goal vs Ibrahimovic's Goal

Luckycharms_74

Saw this in the news today.
Is it better than Ibrahimovic's ?
You decide :P

Mexes:

Ibrahimovic

No poll? Mexes goal was was better. Goalkeeper wasn't doing anything stupid and it was a high profile match as opposed to a friendly.

Luckycharms_74

Sacramento wrote: »

No poll? Mexes goal was was better. Goalkeeper wasn't doing anything stupid and it was a high profile match as opposed to a friendly.

Poll Added :P

BhoscaCapall

Ibra's was great but anyone who thinks it was better needs to lern2football

Super-Rush

Ibra's was better because he meant to score.

Mexes looks like he was just trying to put the ball back in the penalty box.

fergiesfolly

Does this mean the greatest goal EVER scored, wasn't? Thought the hype about Ibrahimovichs goal was nonsensical. Not to mention the deity status placed on him

Luckycharms_74

Super-Rush wrote: »

Ibra's was better because he meant to score.

Mexes looks like he was just trying to put the ball back in the penalty box.

But there was no one in the box that he could "pass" it to. Mexes definitely ment to score.

Oranage2

If Ibra scored the Mexes one I'd say the first one - but cause he didnt Ibra's one is better!

Super-Rush

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

But there was no one in the box that he could "pass" it to. Mexes definitely ment to score.

Ball came to him and he hit it over his head. Most likely thought that the two supporting players with him were further forward than they were. I seriously doubt that he thought that he was going to even trouble the keeper let alone score. Ibra knew the keeper was well off his line and knew he had a chance of scoring.

gimmick

Mexes. Important match, controlled it first and then hit it.

BhoscaCapall

lololol Mexes bicycle kicked in a cross did he :rolleyes:

IncognitoMan

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Ibra's was great but anyone who thinks it was better needs to lern2football

What the **** does this mean?

Anyway Zlatan's one is better. Looking at the two, zlatan's is the more difficult of the two to pull off. I would also argue he scored his against better players. Friendly or not.

Morzadec

I went for Ibra's.

For the record I don't think Ibra's is one of the best goals ever scored, but for me it's one of the most impressive.

In terms of athleticism and technique it's just ridiculous.

It's an insane goal.

I understand why some are saying Mexes's is better because these things are subjective and everyone has their own criteria.

Ibra's for me is just crazily impressive though.

GavRedKing

Zlatan.

Further out, more difficult angle, ball was higher in the air and more difficult to execute.

Not taking anything away from Mexes goal its an exceptional strike also but Zlatan just pips it.

MaceFace

Defo Ibra.

Mexes was more of a hit and hope. He had to have known that even with great contact he would have to be incredibly lucky for it to go where the keeper could not get it.
No way he tried to overhead it into the top corner over the keeper - no way.

Ibra knew if he made good contact and had it on target it was more or less going to be in because the keeper was so far off his line.

Oat23

I think this is better than both, but I'm biased. The technique is ridiculous and he had to think so fast.

I voted for Mexes. Ibra's goal was special but having no keeper to beat helped.

Eirebear

Mexes, defender tight on him, keeper more or less positioned well (although slow to react).

keith16

Philippe Meh-xes.

evad_lhorg

Sacramento wrote: »

No poll? Mexes goal was was better. Goalkeeper wasn't doing anything stupid and it was a high profile match as opposed to a friendly.

Where and when the goal was scored has no relevance on how technically good the goals are. Zlatan's goal was absolutely ridiculous and you will never ever see someone do that again. I have seen plenty of overheads scored from the edge of the box.

Neil3030

Voted for Ibra because whoever that guy is who scored last night, it wasn't against an English team so it doesn't matter.

Lord TSC

Mexes for me.

Ibra just hit it. Mexes seems to control it, line it up and then hit it. And there were more obstacles, the keeper was in a better position, etc.

bucketybuck

Super-Rush wrote: »

Ibra's was better because he meant to score.

Mexes looks like he was just trying to put the ball back in the penalty box.

Thats the dumbest thing I have heard in hours. Seriously.

Anyway, I voted Mexes. Whatever about situation, Mexes had to beat a keeper with his shot, Ibra did not. You cannot compare goals where one of the players had to aim at an empty net.

Yakult

Like Ibras just that bit more. They are both specials goals tho

Charlie19

Ibra for me. Was against England, his forth goal and the timing of it. He had to hit it when he did to catch out the keeper and defender.

Seaneh

I voted Ibra, the technique in Ibra's was a lot harder to get right and the sheer athleticism of it was insane. No other player in the world could pull if off IMHO.

I honestly think Mexes just hit and hoped for the best.
You can see the surprise on his face when it goes in, he can't believe it.

Still a cracker though.

cournioni

Close one, but Ibrahimovic's goal is better for me. He did not have to control the ball, nor did he have time to whereas Mexes did. Rooney's was better than Mexes goal as he hit it first time too.

Eirebear

evad_lhorg wrote: »

Where and when the goal was scored has no relevance on how technically good the goals are. Zlatan's goal was absolutely ridiculous and you will never ever see someone do that again. I have seen plenty of overheads scored from the edge of the box.

Indeed - It's rare you see goalkeepers as ridiculously out of position as that.

Mr.Nice Guy

Both great goals but Ibra could pull off the Mexes goal whereas I'm not sure Mexes - or 99% of players for that matter - could have pulled off the Swede's goal.

CSF

As has been said by many in the thread, Zlatan's goal just was not imitatable. Out of this world stuff. Mexes' goal was sublime too though.

Muff_Daddy

Ibra's was the better of the two.

But Trevor Sinclair's for QPR in 1997 was better than both of them.

Super-Rush

bucketybuck wrote: »

Thats the dumbest thing I have heard in hours. Seriously.

Anyway, I voted Mexes. Whatever about situation, Mexes had to beat a keeper with his shot, Ibra did not. You cannot compare goals where one of the players had to aim at an empty net.

England had two players back in the penalty box that could have cleared it but Ibra stuck it where they couldn't reach it.

By your logic you can't compare the goals as you wouldn't be surprised at Ibra trying something like that.

davyjose

Super-Rush wrote: »

England had two players back in the penalty box that could have cleared it but Ibra stuck it where they couldn't reach it.

By your logic you can't compare the goals as you wouldn't be surprised at Ibra trying something like that.

The fact that zlatan had an open goal edges it to mexes for me. Better technique by Ibra though. Rooneys against city was better than either. The pace on it and context of it made that goal one of the best ever IMO.

Xavi6

davyjose wrote: »

The fact that zlatan had an open goal edges it to mexes for me. Better technique by Ibra though. Rooneys against city was better than either. The pace on it and context of it made that goal one of the best ever IMO.

No chance, it's a bigger shinner than Gerry Adams.

It was also from about 12 yards so much more comparable to Eidur Gudjohnsen's and both are a level well below Mexes and Ibra.

cournioni

Xavi6 wrote: »

No chance, it's a bigger shinner than Gerry Adams.

It was also from about 12 yards so much more comparable to Eidur Gudjohnsen's and both are a level well below Mexes and Ibra.

I would have said the same if it was scored against United! Come on, with the pace that the ball came into Rooney at, you have to give him credit for it. If it had been thirty yards out Hart still would not have saved it.

bucketybuck

Super-Rush wrote: »

England had two players back in the penalty box that could have cleared it but Ibra stuck it where they couldn't reach it

I'd far rather have two outfield players on the line to beat than one goalkeeper, its not even a choice.

The more I consider this the better Mexes goal appears.

For all Ibra did brilliantly, he had a goalkeeper in no-mans land and no defenders closing him down. Mexes had a goalkeeper on the line and a defender pushing into his back affecting his balance.

The ball bounced perfectly for Ibra, such that his only action needed to was to strike the ball correctly (not that it was easy, I am not saying that at all). The cross to Mexes came in behind him, so he had to control the ball while knocking it into the air with his chest, and then hit a perfect strike to beat the keeper. Two separate actions requiring skill as opposed to one.

One was the end of a friendly match that was already won, the other was an actual competitive match.

Nope, for me its Mexes, with the most important factor being that defender pushing into his back putting him under pressure. Ibra's goal is still fantastic, but Mexes' is better.

2ndcoming

Ibra's for the simple fact that he capped a sensational performance in which he had already scored 3 fantastic goals with an absolute wondergoal that will always be remembered, plus the fact that in 10 incredibly successful years he has often scored jawdropping goals, so he deserves to be remembered.

Mexes' was a wondergoal too, but it doesn't make up for 10 years of being an average defender and a thug.

As a stand alone goal Mauro Bressan's for Fiorentina vs Barca was better than both. Mauro who??? One swallow does not a summer make...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXlrN1Sq_cE

Giggsy11

2ndcoming wrote: »

Ibra's for the simple fact that he capped a sensational performance in which he had already scored 3 fantastic goals with an absolute wondergoal that will always be remembered, plus the fact that in 10 incredibly successful years he has often scored jawdropping goals, so he deserves to be remembered.

Mexes' was a wondergoal too, but it doesn't make up for 10 years of being an average defender and a thug.

As a stand alone goal Mauro Bressan's for Fiorentina vs Barca was better than both. Mauro who??? One swallow does not a summer make...

This is not Ibra for 10 years vs Mexes for 10 years. This is just about the 1 goal they scored, nothing to do with 10 years of being average defender.

Also it doesn't matter how many goals Ibra scored against England before scoring "THAT" goal as this thread is about just 2 overhead kick goals.

Edit: Mexes goal wins it for me, reasons are already mentioned many times. He had keeper on the line, defender to put pressure on him not just a free shot like Ibra had.

bucketybuck

2ndcoming wrote: »

Ibra's for the simple fact that he capped a sensational performance in which he had already scored 3 fantastic goals with an absolute wondergoal that will always be remembered, plus the fact that in 10 incredibly successful years he has often scored jawdropping goals, so he deserves to be remembered.

What has any of that got to do with the quality of the two goals scored? Thats all totally irrelevant.

2ndcoming

Context is completely unimportant to you then. Okay.

As a standalone goal I still choose Ibra's. Mexes could try that 100 times again and it would never come off, it was more of a hit and hope, and extremely poor defending to let him get a shot away at all.

It wasn't Ibra's fault Hart came, he took advantage of the situation in a split second and put the ball where no one could get it.

And to me, it's important that he could probably do it again just as well. Hard not to label Mexes' a bit of a fluke.

Bressan's is still better than both though!

IncognitoMan

In 5-10 years people will still remember Zlatan's goal. Even friends who dont follow football have been talking to me about that goal.

bucketybuck

2ndcoming wrote: »

Context is completely unimportant to you then. Okay.

As a standalone goal I still choose Ibra's. Mexes could try that 100 times again and it would never come off, it was more of a hit and hope, and extremely poor defending to let him get a shot away at all.

It wasn't Ibra's fault Hart came, he took advantage of the situation in a split second and put the ball where no one could get it.

And to me, it's important that he could probably do it again just as well. Hard not to label Mexes' a bit of a fluke.

Bressan's is still better than both though!

Context?

Your post basically said that because Ibra had scored good goals before that he deserved this one to be judged better. Its a complete non-sequiter, judge the two goals on their merits not on stuff like "he deserved it more".

If Jamie Carragher scored a header this weekend would that be a better goal than Mexes just because he was a great servant to Liverpool and so deserved it more?

2ndcoming

Yes context. Like Maradona's goal because it was at the World Cup and seen as revenge for the Falklands, a victory for the little guy. Messi scored a carbon copy that is already nearly forgotten.

Looking at the goal on its merits then it's still Ibra because we have 10 years of form that say Mexes' was a fluke, 99/100 he hits the corner flag if he connects at all. Ibra's form tells us he regularly scores wondergoals, so it's the work of a master of his art and should be applauded.

Given your logic if I go and beat 5 people, hoist onto my chest and bicycle it into the top corner in a Saturday match in the United Churches League my goal should be considered on its merits, so move over Zlatan! Obviously this is a ridiculous notion.