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400 euro build

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  • 22-11-2012 9:09pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭


    Want to build a gaming PC for 400 euro or cheaper if possible. I dont need games at max resolution 1080P. High settings and 720P resolution would be fine.
    I was looking through hardware Versand and came up with the following build for 380 euro
    http://i45.tinypic.com/kej709.png
    If that processor can handle games to run at 720P on high settings I would be happy with it because I do most of my of gaming on the Xbox.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭areyawell


    Any one?


  • Registered Users Posts: 638 ✭✭✭MRTULES


    Item|Price
    8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9|€28.33
    WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 6Gb/s|€53.54
    BitFenix Merc Alpha|€34.00
    Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W|€42.28
    Intel Core i3-3220 Box, LGA1155|€108.14
    ASRock B75 Pro3, Sockel 1155, ATX|€69.29
    MSI R7770-PMD1GD5, 1024MB DDR5, PCI-Express|€109.00
    Shipping|€18.99
    Total|€463.57



    Item|Price
    8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9|€28.33
    WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 6Gb/s|€53.54
    BitFenix Merc Alpha|€34.00
    Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W|€42.28
    ASRock H61M-DG3/USB3, Sockel 1155, mATX|€48.00
    Intel Celeron Dual-Core G550 Box, LGA1155|€38.08
    HIS HD 7850 GDDR5 1024MB DVI/HDMI/2xMini DP|€157.48
    Shipping|€18.99
    Total|€420.70


    Just throwing these out there for you to have a peep at. Im intersted myself to know if the better CPU with lower powered GPU is better than the more powerful GPU paired with celeron CPU

    Also I think the trinity series might be suitable for you but i know nothing about them. will try throw a build of one together anyway in a min




    Item|Price
    8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9|€28.33
    WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 6Gb/s|€53.54
    BitFenix Merc Alpha|€34.00
    Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W|€42.28
    AMD A10 5800K Black Edition mit AMD Radeon HD 7660D Grafikeinheit, Box, FM2|€116.12
    ASRock FM2A75 Pro4, FM2, ATX|€73.83
    Shipping|€18.99
    Total|€367.09


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭areyawell


    Cheers for the reply.
    But I think the AMD X4 945 be a lot better processor than the Intel G550 according to CpuBenchmark and also isn't far behind the i3 3220 according to the CpuBenchmark which is only dual core and games prefer quad cores. Maybe I'm completely wrong here.

    Just wondering why you went for a much dearer motherboard as well than the one I picked. Is the one I picked known to have faults and not a good motherboard?

    I don't think I need to update the graphics card or do I? If playing at 720P on high settings would that graphics card suffice? I think I wouldn't get much higher than 720P unless I got a processor like an i5 with much better graphics card.

    Really need to stick to under 400 budget as well.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,079 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    Stealing MrTules build and throwing out a fourth option. :) , this comes in a shade under €400. Although an i3 build would probably be a slightly preferred option I don't think we can reasonably afford to spend 1/4 of the budget on the CPU in this instance. I think this is a reasonably balanced build that will do everything you need.

    The Athlon II X4 ain't the greatest but it is cheap and cheerful, and you have to make a compromise somewhere on this sort of budget. It certainly won't hinder gaming performance in any graphically intensive games that are GPU bound.

    Also the motherboard can currently support any CPU up to an FX-8300 (and hopefully next years AMD CPU crop as well if ASUS add bios support), so you will not be stuck for a CPU upgrade in the future.

    The GPU will be well able to handle any game you throw at it @720p.

    Item|Price
    BitFenix Merc Alpha|€34.00
    Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W|€42.28
    ASUS M5A78L LE, Sockel AM3+, ATX|€50.15
    AMD Athlon II X4 640 Box AM3|€64,50
    8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9|€28.33
    WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 6Gb/s|€53.54
    Sapphire Radeon HD 7750, 2GB DDR3|€87.03
    Samsung SH-118AB DVD-RW|€13.33
    Shipping|€18.99
    Total|€392.15


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭areyawell


    Hi thanks for the reply, looks like a solid build. I like the fact the processor can be upgraded in the future when I get more funds.

    Would the AMD Phenom II X4 945 work on that motherboard?
    On CPUBenchmark its gets a much higher rating than the AMD Athlon II X4 640
    AMD Phenom II X4 945 - 3804 Price 67.09
    AMD Athlon II X4 640 - 3365 Price 64.50

    Also might be able to stretch the budget to 440 euro for the graphics card if it means playing the games at higher resolution than 720P or would the processor be holding me back? Or would the built allow me to play games at say 1600 by xxxx
    resolution? Sorry for all the questions, just want to get the best value for my money :)


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,079 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    areyawell wrote: »
    Hi thanks for the reply, looks like a solid build. I like the fact the processor can be upgraded in the future when I get more funds.

    Would the AMD Phenom II X4 945 work on that motherboard?
    On CPUBenchmark its gets a much higher rating than the AMD Athlon II X4 640
    AMD Phenom II X4 945 - 3804 Price 67.09
    AMD Athlon II X4 640 - 3365 Price 64.50

    Also might be able to stretch the budget to 440 euro for the graphics card if it means playing the games at higher resolution than 720P or would the processor be holding me back? Or would the built allow me to play games at say 1600 by xxxx
    resolution? Sorry for all the questions, just want to get the best value for my money :)

    The HD7750 is a decent enough card and would do a very respectable job gaming up to about 1680X1050 resolutions or so.

    The phenom could be used on that board as well, for gaming the Phenoms II don't tend to do much better than a similarly clocked Athlon II as they have the exact same same CPU cores, the Athlon doesn't have an L3 cache which improves performance in certain other tasks, but it doesn't tend to have much impact on gaming performance.

    Still for another 3 euro might as well throw it in.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭areyawell


    BitFenix Merc Alpha €34.00
    Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W €42.28
    ASUS M5A78L LE, Sockel AM3+, ATX €50.15
    AMD Phenom II X4 945 Box, 95W, Sockel AM3 €67,50
    8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9 €28.33
    WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 6Gb/s €53.54
    Sapphire Radeon HD 7750, 2GB DDR3 €87.03
    Samsung SH-118AB DVD-RW €13.33
    Shipping €18.99
    Total €395.15

    Thats the final build I'm going for. Thanks for your help guys. Ordering Monday.Think it will do what I want it for. Mightn't get full settings and max resolution on games but hopefully get 720p on max settings or a little higher resolution.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭areyawell


    Might stretch out a bit further
    Is the AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition much better than the X4 945?

    http://lb.hardwareversand.de/Socket+AM3/27814/AMD+Phenom+II+X4+965+Black+Edition+Box%2C+Sockel+AM3.article

    Its only an extra 20 quid.

    Also is there an different graphics card thats better than the 7750 for around an extra 20 quid

    Thanks


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,079 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    areyawell wrote: »
    Might stretch out a bit further
    Is the AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition much better than the X4 945?

    http://lb.hardwareversand.de/Socket+AM3/27814/AMD+Phenom+II+X4+965+Black+Edition+Box%2C+Sockel+AM3.article

    Its only an extra 20 quid.

    Also is there an different graphics card thats better than the 7750 for around an extra 20 quid

    Thanks

    This HIS HD 7770 is exactly 20 more than that 7750.

    Loads of other cards 7770 around the same price this Gigabyte is only 2 more and overclocked by another 100MHz.

    Haven't time now but no harm looking at a few reviews to see which are the quietest and have the best warranties, I don't have a particularly strong recommendation for any of them over the others.

    See other thread RE 965. :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭areyawell


    Cheers for the reply. Can join other thread with this one as I probably shouldn't have making two. Final build is below. Will all parts work together? Going to build it myself. How do people do the table with the links on here? No clue lol. Ordering it Monday :)

    BitFenix Merc Alpha €34.00
    Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W €42.28
    ASUS M5A78L LE, Sockel AM3+, ATX €50.15
    AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Box, Sockel AM3 €85.87
    8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9 €28.33
    WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 6Gb/s €53.54
    HIS HD 7770 GDDR5 1024MB DVI HDMI 2xMiniDP €107.74
    Samsung SH-118AB DVD-RW €13.33
    Shipping €18.99
    Total €433.80


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭uncle_sam_ie


    marco_polo wrote: »
    This HIS HD 7770 is exactly 20 more than that 7750.

    Loads of other cards 7770 around the same price this Gigabyte is only 2 more and overclocked by another 100MHz.

    Haven't time now but no harm looking at a few reviews to see which are the quietest and have the best warranties, I don't have a particularly strong recommendation for any of them over the others.

    See other thread RE 965. :)
    That's the card I put in my son's PC. It's great GPU for the price.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    I'd probably get the 945 as it's quite likely that it can be overclocked to near ~3.8GHz anyway. The 965 would have an edge in that it's easier to overclock with the unlocked multiplier and it should be a higher binned product, meaning you might squeeze a bit more out of it overclock-wise.
    That's just me though, and I'd take on the task of overclocking it and then upgrade it later down the road.


    I'd spend more money on:

    1600MHz RAM such as
    http://lb.hardwareversand.de/1600+Low+Voltage/44314/8GB-Kit+G-Skill+RipJaws+PC3-12800U+CL9.article

    And a motherboard with a newer chipset, such as this at minimum
    http://lb.hardwareversand.de/DDR3/59310/ASRock+970DE3+U3S3%2C+AM3%2B%2C+ATX.article
    or the extreme 3 if you want to splash out a bit more
    http://lb.hardwareversand.de/DDR3/52889/ASRock+970+Extreme3%2C+AM3%2B%2C+ATX.article


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭areyawell


    Monotype wrote: »
    I'd probably get the 945 as it's quite likely that it can be overclocked to near ~3.8GHz anyway. The 965 would have an edge in that it's easier to overclock with the unlocked multiplier and it should be a higher binned product, meaning you might squeeze a bit more out of it overclock-wise.
    That's just me though, and I'd take on the task of overclocking it and then upgrade it later down the road.


    I'd spend more money on:

    1600MHz RAM such as
    http://lb.hardwareversand.de/1600+Low+Voltage/44314/8GB-Kit+G-Skill+RipJaws+PC3-12800U+CL9.article

    And a motherboard with a newer chipset, such as this at minimum
    http://lb.hardwareversand.de/DDR3/59310/ASRock+970DE3+U3S3%2C+AM3%2B%2C+ATX.article
    or the extreme 3 if you want to splash out a bit more
    http://lb.hardwareversand.de/DDR3/52889/ASRock+970+Extreme3%2C+AM3%2B%2C+ATX.article

    Cheers for the reply. I think I'll stay with the same processor. Should last years especially when overclocked for gaming. Might need to get a better graphics card down the line or do them motherboards support crossfiring?
    Ill spend the extra fiver on the motherboard you suggested.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    The extreme 3 supports crossfire.
    If instead, you stretched to a 7850 which are about €165, you'd be covered at 1080P for nearly everything.

    Edit: No, the extreme 3 wouldn't be a great board for crossfire either.


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