Dash cams, what to get and where to get it (Q&A only)

celica00

Andybobandy wrote: »

not yet, but when I can buy an 0806, I'll put the 0801 on the rear window so I'll then have front/rear facing cameras.

I see as much crap going on behind me as well as in front of me.

Thats exactly my thought!
And the amount of ppl that are up your ... rear bumper sometimes is just to high!!

BigEejit

Hachiko wrote: »

some news about this

We are considering not stocking the 0806 at the moment due to some issues

Goddammit, I was just about to buy one of these. I was hoping they sorted out the design issues, and maybe they did its just poor manufacturing and/or quality control this time. Whatever, its crossed off my list until I hear they have sorted it out.

I looked on youtube for footage from the Koonlung C75 and found this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDPX3qzH944 some dude taking video out the window of his block of flats. I would not have mentioned it except every single window in the picture up to 10 or more storeys has iron bars on them!! ... they must have flipping spider man doing burglaries around there...

AndyBoBandy

BigEejit wrote: »

I was just about to buy one of these.

Where were you going to buy it?

All you can buy on amazon (that deliver to Ireland) is the 0801 & 0803

Even though it's the same seller (E-Prance) they won't ship the 0805 to Ireland!!

BigEejit

Andybobandy wrote: »

Where were you going to buy it?

I was going to get it from aliexpress, there is always a delay getting stuff from China, expect it to arrive in a month:
http://www.aliexpress.com/premium/mini-0806.html?SearchText=mini+0806&ltype=wholesale&d=y&origin=y&initiative_id=SB_20150305025649&catId=0&isViewCP=y

$120 -> about 79 pounds stg, 108 euros


actually, you can see the knockoffs are starting already on that website, some of the ones being offered have a silver surround on the screen....

BigEejit

Actually a e-prance one with DHL shipping is 103 pounds stg:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-2015-Original-E-prance-Mini-0806-Car-DVR-Camera-Dash-Cam-Ambarella-A7LA50-Super-HD/32279571681.html

Irish Stones

BigEejit wrote: »

Actually a e-prance one with DHL shipping is 103 pounds stg:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-2015-Original-E-prance-Mini-0806-Car-DVR-Camera-Dash-Cam-Ambarella-A7LA50-Super-HD/32279571681.html

Have you ever purchased from Aliexpress?
I did twice, but never received the stuff and got my money back after 45 days...

AndyBoBandy

Irish Stones wrote: »

Have you ever purchased from Aliexpress?
I did twice, but never received the stuff and got my money back after 45 days...

Thats what I was thinking,
I like to limit my online purchasing (especially from afar) to either Amazon/ebay, or else someone (locally) thats very reputable.

Looked at that Aliexpress and it wouldn't be somewhere I'd be rushing to spend my money!

BigEejit

I have bought several bits from Aliexpress, spend a few hundred quid on stuff from there. Sometimes it takes time to get here but so far the 5 or 6 items I bought have made it. On one occasion a LCD power supply was different from the website and they just sent another one ... of course this meant another 3 week wait....

I dont think you cash is at risk, I've not had to use it but there is Aliexpress's buyer protection for a full refund if you dont receive your item.

And while Aliexpress is relatively unknown here, it is a subdivision of Alibaba which is the largest online retail presence in the world.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/walterloeb/2014/04/11/10-reasons-why-alibaba-is-a-worldwide-leader-in-e-commerce/

1. Sales for 2014 are estimated at $420 Billion. In 2012 sales were $170 Billion. This dwarfs Amazon, its closest competitor, with reported sales of $74.4 Billion for fiscal 2013 while EBay reported sales for fiscal 2013 of $16 Billion, less than one-tenth Alibaba’s 2012 sales.
The customer base is gigantic. There are 1.4 Billion people in China. In the United States there are 327 Million. (For the record, the United States is the third largest country; India is second with a population of 1.2 Billion.
Alibaba claims to have 300 Million customers. They employ over 25,000 workers to service the clientele.
China’s “Singles Day” promotion is annually on November 11th. This is the biggest on-line shopping day in China. In 2013 Alibaba recorded sales of $5.6 Billion on that single day. By comparison, in the United States, 2013 on-line sales on Cyber Monday were about $1.7 Billion
There are several major divisions including “Taobao” which allows private persons and small businesses to sell merchandise to customers. Unlike EBay which has sellers pay a commission to EBay, Taobao sellers have to pay for the advertised promotion.

AndyBoBandy

I've just ordered an 0806 from gearbest.com €111.25, so we'll see how it goes,

site looks decent enough and has plenty of positive reviews

Hachiko

Ive not had any problems with mine, I am thinking of getting a minature cig lighter and putting it behind the upper roof trim.

then I will have no trailing wires at all, the only thing is the lighter I have is rated @ 1A, the 0806 has a 2A output.

EDIT

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Micro-USB-2A-Car-Charger-12V-DC-to-5V-Adapter-Cigarette-Lighter-Socket-/161227033850

this is what i need.

cormie

Andybobandy wrote: »

I've just ordered an 0806 from gearbest.com €111.25, so we'll see how it goes,

site looks decent enough and has plenty of positive reviews

Wow, the price of the 080X has shot up. It used to be about €60 odd for the best one. It would be fine if it was a quality product but there seems to be a lot of mixed feelings on that aspect. I have a 0801 and 2 0803's, they work but I don't fully trust them, a warning beep happens every so often with no real pattern, a message pops up on the screen but stays for only half a second and I've never had a chance to read it properly, I think it says something about the card, and some times it seems like it's not recording, or flashing the red record icon on screen, but then when you look again, it is.

AndyBoBandy

cormie wrote: »

Wow, the price of the 080X has shot up. It used to be about €60 odd for the best one. It would be fine if it was a quality product but there seems to be a lot of mixed feelings on that aspect. I have a 0801 and 2 0803's, they work but I don't fully trust them, a warning beep happens every so often with no real pattern, a message pops up on the screen but stays for only half a second and I've never had a chance to read it properly, I think it says something about the card, and some times it seems like it's not recording, or flashing the red record icon on screen, but then when you look again, it is.

I've an 0801 and it hasn't put a foot wrong at all for me, only cost me about €50, I would have been happy to get an 0803 or 0805, but for the few extra quid, decided to go for the 0806,
It will replace the 0801 in the front, which will itself go to the rear window to give me front/back views.

From what I've seen in reviews/YouTube videos, the 0806 is a top bit if kit, and for me, it seems worth the price.

Hachiko

well the quality in hi res is exceptional...

Irish Stones

Andybobandy wrote: »

I've just ordered an 0806 from gearbest.com €111.25, so we'll see how it goes,

site looks decent enough and has plenty of positive reviews

On that site it is priced in dollars, so I presume they're in USA.
Have you considered the customs and VAT when it arrives in your country?
How much for shipping?
Chances are it will be much dearer than 111 euro.

Irish Stones

Hachiko wrote: »

Ive not had any problems with mine, I am thinking of getting a minature cig lighter and putting it behind the upper roof trim.

then I will have no trailing wires at all, the only thing is the lighter I have is rated @ 1A, the 0806 has a 2A output.

EDIT

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Micro-USB-2A-Car-Charger-12V-DC-to-5V-Adapter-Cigarette-Lighter-Socket-/161227033850

this is what i need.

That cigarette lighter adapter is a plug to be inserted into a lighter socket that will have a regular cylindric shape and size. Where is the advantage of a "slim" plug if what is around it is big as usual?

AndyBoBandy

Irish Stones wrote: »

On that site it is priced in dollars, so I presume they're in USA.
Have you considered the customs and VAT when it arrives in your country?
How much for shipping?
Chances are it will be much dearer than 111 euro.

Site is U.S. based, item will ship from China,
I had a look around, and quite a few boards have bought from them before and didn't get caught with the import charges/VAT. Believe me, I have thought about it. once bitten, twice shy...

I opted for the free postage (7-25 days)

Irish Stones

Andybobandy wrote: »

Site is U.S. based, item will ship from China,
I had a look around, and quite a few boards have bought from them before and didn't get caught with the import charges/VAT. Believe me, I have thought about it. once bitten, twice shy...

Lucky them!
The times I ordered from US or China I got caught by the customs and payed lots of money in taxes and VAT.
The times I went through the customs clear were when the items' value was lower than a certain amount, about USD 30, P&P included.

Hachiko

Irish Stones wrote: »

That cigarette lighter adapter is a plug to be inserted into a lighter socket that will have a regular cylindric shape and size. Where is the advantage of a "slim" plug if what is around it is big as usual?

that is small, i am sure i can put that into my roof lining, thus no trailing wires. I can feed 12v from my mirror into it along the mirror arm.

Hachiko

Irish Stones wrote: »

On that site it is priced in dollars, so I presume they're in USA.
Have you considered the customs and VAT when it arrives in your country?
How much for shipping?
Chances are it will be much dearer than 111 euro.

why not get from the uk?

AndyBoBandy

Hachiko wrote: »

why not get from the uk?

I couldn't find any U.K. sellers, and the ad for Gearbest.com came up on a page I was viewing on Amazon

fabsoul

Andybobandy wrote: »

I've just ordered an 0806 from gearbest.com €111.25, so we'll see how it goes,

site looks decent enough and has plenty of positive reviews

I got one from them last week for €108.02 it was stopped by custom and
had to pay €30.92 more.

AndyBoBandy

fabsoul wrote: »

I got one from them last week for €108.02 it was stopped by custom and
had to pay €30.92 more.

bummer!

how long did it take from order to delivery? How did you have to pay the extra €30.92?

Hachiko

my revised wiring, the black taped up bit is the cig lighter i ordered, 5v @ 2A, mini usb to the cam.

Can tuck that up behind the roof lining and just a single wire to the dash cam.

Hachiko

Has anyone got the 0806 ones?

AndyBoBandy

Hachiko wrote: »

Has anyone got the 0806 ones?

I ordered one last week from Gearbest.com

punisher5112

Andybobandy wrote: »

I ordered one last week from Gearbest.com

I bought a dvr camera off them and it was a dodgy rip off.
Now that one may be ok the 1 I got was a different one.

Kevin!

punisher5112 wrote: »

I bought a dvr camera off them and it was a dodgy rip off.
Now that one may be ok the 1 I got was a different one.

That's unusual for gearbest, they're renound for having genuine sj4000's and xiaomi products - are you certain its fake?

Hachiko

new and improved wiring, quite pleased. Will leave it do its thing and enjoy my driving

dodzy

Hi folks,

a colleague asked me to hunt down a decent dashcam but ideally need it before the weekend. Price: Max 200€.

Recommendations please ?

Vic_08

Halfords sell a range of them. http://www.halfords.ie/technology/dashboard-cameras-parking-sensors/dashboard-cameras

I imagine they could be got cheaper online but possibly not by Friday.

dodzy

Vic_08 wrote: »

Halfords sell a range of them. http://www.halfords.ie/technology/dashboard-cameras-parking-sensors/dashboard-cameras

I imagine they could be got cheaper online but possibly not by Friday.

Cheers vic, had seen their offerings but they all seem to have the hideous suction mount. Was ideally looking for something neater.

Hi,

I got one of these. Find it excellant.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transcend-DrivePro-Video-Recorder-Built-In-Black/dp/B00GRYT5QI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1427188683&sr=8-2&keywords=dashcam

Get the suction mount for it also:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transcend-Suction-Mount-DrivePro-Recorders/dp/B00JY6W8YM/ref=pd_bxgy_computers_img_y

biko

I assume OP is only looking where to pick one up in Dublin somewhere. Ordering online may take longer than 4 days.

biko

biko wrote: »

I assume OP is only looking where to pick one up in Dublin somewhere. Ordering online may take longer than 4 days.

Not if you use the quicker shipping options. Forgot to mention that.

AndyBoBandy

fabsoul wrote: »

I got one from them last week for €108.02 it was stopped by custom and
had to pay €30.92 more.

Had my 0806 delivered today, no customs, no nothing, just a knock on the door from the postman, here, heres your new camera.

dodzy

biko wrote: »

I assume OP is only looking where to pick one up in Dublin somewhere. Ordering online may take longer than 4 days.

Yep, that was the plan biko. The Halfords offerings are all suction. Was looking at this: http://dashcams.ie/smartcam-blackvue-dr380-hd/

Not sure of where they're based though.

Typical short notice request from a mate for his daughter.


Looking at Amazon express post too.

Vic_08

dodzy wrote: »

Yep, that was the plan biko. The Halfords offerings are all suction. Was looking at this: http://dashcams.ie/smartcam-blackvue-dr380-hd/

Not sure of where they're based though.

Typical short notice request from a mate for his daughter.

Not sure of where they're based though.

Looking at Amazon express post too.

They all use suction mounts, including that one "The on-board camera comes with an extra-strong suction mount for the windscreen" how else do you expect them to be mounted to a windscreen?

AndyBoBandy

Vic_08 wrote: »

They all use suction mounts, including that one "The on-board camera comes with an extra-strong suction mount for the windscreen" how else do you expect them to be mounted to a windscreen?

I'm on my second E-Prance dash cam now and neither have used suction mounts,

they've both used sticky foam pads (which work very well)

These look like they use the same sticky pad

dodzy

Andybobandy wrote: »

I'm on my second E-Prance dash cam now and neither have used suction mounts,

they've both used sticky foam pads (which work very well)

These look like they use the same sticky pad

you are correct sir

The eprance looks good but I'm just waiting on these dashcam guys to get back to me. Just inside his budget. Just.

biko

Adverts offerings
www.adverts.ie/for-sale/q_Dashcam

dodzy

biko wrote: »

Adverts offerings
www.adverts.ie/for-sale/q_Dashcam

Cheers Biko,

I live on Adverts

Had seen them yesterday evening.

Going to go for the Halfords Nextbase 402G - excellent reviews and he feels that the added screen is a bonus gimmick she will approve of.

http://www.halfords.ie/technology/dashboard-cameras-parking-sensors/dashboard-cameras/nextbase-incarcam-402g-professional

Anyway, that's me off the hook, cheers lads.

EazyD

Andybobandy wrote: »

Had my 0806 delivered today, no customs, no nothing, just a knock on the door from the postman, here, heres your new camera.

What's the 0806 like? I have the first eprance 0801 so I was thinking of using that as a rear cam and the 806 as my front.

AndyBoBandy

EazyD wrote: »

What's the 0806 like? I have the first eprance 0801 so I was thinking of using that as a rear cam and the 806 as my front.

Thats exactly my plan, been using an 0801 since January, and love it, Had an itch for more so went for an 0806 so I could have a 2nd rear facing camera (so thats where the 0801 will go).

I put it in the car today, but haven't had the chance to test it yet, but will be heading up to the shops later so it'll get its first test drive then. I did record a 1 minute after positioning it while the car was stationary, and I have to say the picture looks impressive (birds flying in the distance came through really clear).

AndyBoBandy

EazyD wrote: »

What's the 0806 like?

So far so good, I'm still experimenting with it, using different settings/resolutions etc..

I had a 64GB (class 10) card in it and was getting some write errors, so as per the instructions, formatted the card to Fat32 on my mac, and it didn't really help the situation, (some video clips were coming in in audio only, and when the video did record, there would be glitches in it from time to time) I had a quick look online, and people are saying 32GB cards are still the best, so I took one of my 2 32GB (class 6) cards I was using in the 0801 and voila, it worked perfect, seamless video over multiple clips. Probably didn't need to buy the 64GB card, I guess I only bought it because the camera supports up to 128GB, but for me, like with the 0801, 32GB is more than enough (5+ hours recording at full resolution)

Went for a proper drive today so had about 30 3 min clips to look through, and one thing I noticed straight away was the improvement in sound quality that the camera records (although this is pretty useless in a dash cam). I used the CPL filter for the first half of the drive (sun was shining), and removed it for the way home (no sun, and to be honest, didn't really notice it doing any good, so I don't think I'll bother with it.

I'll be trying different settings over the next few days to determine whats the best video resolution to set it at, as from looking online, theres no definitive settings people would recommend. I think its a case of whatever works best for you (and the card your using).

I wouldn't say it's a million times better than the 0801, but it does seem a bit better than it, I'm hoping it will be a lot better once I've found the best settings to use it at. and shall report back my findings.

Hachiko

I have a 128gb car and use the highest resolution, the quality is very good. Day or Night.

it is small and unobstructive.

vectra

Andybobandy wrote: »

So far so good, I'm still experimenting with it, using different settings/resolutions etc..

I had a 64GB (class 10) card in it and was getting some write errors, so as per the instructions, formatted the card to Fat32 on my mac, and it didn't really help the situation, (some video clips were coming in in audio only, and when the video did record, there would be glitches in it from time to time) I had a quick look online, and people are saying 32GB cards are still the best, so I took one of my 2 32GB (class 6) cards I was using in the 0801 and voila, it worked perfect, seamless video over multiple clips. Probably didn't need to buy the 64GB card, I guess I only bought it because the camera supports up to 128GB, but for me, like with the 0801, 32GB is more than enough (5+ hours recording at full resolution)


I wouldn't say it's a million times better than the 0801, but it does seem a bit better than it, I'm hoping it will be a lot better once I've found the best settings to use it at. and shall report back my findings.

Did you try partitioning the 64gb card in two?

Could be worth a try.

Also
Hopefully the heating issue with the 0803 will be sorted in this one.

AndyBoBandy

Hachiko wrote: »

I have a 128gb car and use the highest resolution, the quality is very good. Day or Night.

it is small and unobstructive.

is this in an 0806?

RandomAccess

The battery in my 0801 is knackered already.
Think I have it about a year.
Barely lasts a minute now so makes it awkward to find and lock a clip.

AndyBoBandy

RandomAccess wrote: »

The battery in my 0801 is knackered already.
Think I have it about a year.
Barely lasts a minute now so makes it awkward to find and lock a clip.

What size card are you using? I always find with the 32GB card, 5+ hours is more than enough time for me to get home and review/save the clips onto my computer.
When I got my 0801 I bought 2 32GB cards so I could swap them out if/when I needed, meant I could always bring the card in with me after an eventful day, and even if it took me a few days to get round to it, I'd have the other card in the camera.

RandomAccess

Andybobandy wrote: »

What size card are you using? I always find with the 32GB card, 5+ hours is more than enough time for me to get home and review/save the clips onto my computer.
When I got my 0801 I bought 2 32GB cards so I could swap them out if/when I needed, meant I could always bring the card in with me after an eventful day, and even if it took me a few days to get round to it, I'd have the other card in the camera.

I have a 32gb card, I just found it convenient to review and lock a clip through the device. I only like to take the camera or card out of the car occasionally. It's not a major issue but still worth a gripe.