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Do you fear death?

  • 26-11-2012 5:33am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭


    I think I used to.
    I'm sure I did. But I don't really think I do anymore.
    As a child I believed in God and the ironic thing was that is what for whatever reason added to my fear. It logistically makes no sense as I would have believed I'd live forever. Perhaps I never really believed it though.

    I wouldn't say I don't believe in a higher power, all I can say is I don't know. And being quite frank don't really care. Surely the creator is not going to be angry at me for only believing what I can see in front of me. And if there's nothing after death, well I won't know about it so who cares.

    After recently hearing of another person taking their own life, I thought to myself, why? Why end it all with the prospect of nothing afterwards. But then I saw the bigger picture and obviously sometimes things can get so bad that the thought of never having to wake for another day can be so comforting.

    I think of all the people who were close to me who have died over the years and the thoughts of never seeing them again are beyond sadness, but having the privilege of knowing them in the first place puts things back in to prospective. It's just disappointing to imagine gone as gone. There's not much more comforting than imaging that some day you might once again meet these people who have passed away.

    Thinking about death and how it could be just around the corner is something that does scare me however. The timing of it. There are a lot of things I'd like to have put in order so to speak if I was to die tomorrow.
    It's strange to think about people who have suddenly died and had no idea the day before. I know many suicidal people go through something similar after they've decided that they're going to take their own life. One of the most uncomfortable things I've heard is of a friend close to my sister who took his own life, hearing afterwards all the strange behavior. Meeting up with people he hadn't seen in a long time, it all seems so blatant from this perspective, but clearly it never it.

    Anyway, do you fear death? Or what about the unpredictability of it's timing as I do.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 961 ✭✭✭TEMPLAR KNIGHT


    Davy Jones once asked me the same question


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    I do not fear death whatsoever, infant I feel very comfortable with the idea that I could die tomorrow, in 10 years or however long, it really doesn't bother me at all.

    As painful as suicide is I think it is nice that people get the chance to tie up loose ends, to say goodbye, to write a letter, etc. to me that's closure, of course for the people left behind there could be a hundred letters and they would still be angry, distraught and confused.

    So as I don't mind when I go the timing doesn't bother me, none of us know how little or much we have left, but would you really want to know? I don't think I would.

    Like you I don't believe in God, I also don't believe in a afterlife, it has made my life much better, death seems much less morbid now, it is my atheism that has helped me become so comfortable with the concept of the death, where as when I was a child and believed the whole thing was very frightening.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Napper Hawkins


    Not believing in religious nonsense makes the whole thing easier to accept, for me personally. I don't fear death because I think it's irrational to fear the inevitable. I do fear being killed though, I don't want my life taken away by another or in some freak accident. I think about that stuff a lot because it happens to people every day all over the world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 130 ✭✭PeterStrauss The Second


    I don't fear it.

    I welcome it.

    Hopefully many years in the future.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭areyawell


    My only fear of death is reincarnation Bustin at my adversaries like a mental patient


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,586 ✭✭✭bassy


    As long as it's quick and fast that will do me or not wake up from going to bed would be another nice way to go,as long as it's about 40 odd years away :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    When I was younger I did. Or at the very least, the idea of dying seemed really sad. There was an entire world of possibility out there, and dying meant not being able to experience it all.

    As I get older though....meh. I start to care less and less. Most of the world is filled a people who are a combination of mean and/or stupid. I find there isn't nearly the amount of variety I was lead to believe. Things I've never done before are almost predictable, they're just like this other thing I did or saw years ago. When you are a teenager and you get caught up in a fashion trend, you think it's the COOLEST THING EVER. After you've had a few decades of some kid doing something stupid, then watching everyone else do it too - it seems so irrelevant. And, if you watch closely enough, you'll notice that the fashions aren't even original, it's just a cycle of things that have already been done.

    I used to love going to the movies. Now, meh, all movies do anymore is remind me of movies I saw or books I read. 'Oh - that's just West-side-story, but in space, which was just a knock off of a Shakespeare story, which was just some stolen Greek story (which was probably stolen).

    That's just a specific example, I don't live for movies. It's just you reach a point where nothing really feels new anymore. It's comforting, in a way, but also tiring.

    I was never much for material possessions. I don't dream of watching my pension fund grow or cashing it out and buying an X or a Y. During my life I've been forced to live a relatively poor lifestyle, but found it suites me well. I'm content with never owning another car, as an example. I don't need a house because I've got nothing to put inside of it.

    If I make it another decade, I think I'll be ready to die, content that I've had a good life.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,605 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Once I get to say goodbye to everyone. Tell everyone I love them, give them a hug and come up with some witty last line, Ill be happy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Gee_G


    It does now that I Have a child.
    But my own death does not scare me as much as my loved ones deaths!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Death itself, no, not really.
    I actually used to look forward to it, the peace of non-existence has its appeal.
    These days, I figure I can wait a bit longer for it though.
    Dying on the other hand, especially if slow and painful, I do fear.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    UCDVet wrote: »
    I used to love going to the movies.

    did you pay for two seats? :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭midlandsmissus


    I dont fear death at all, Im starting to think im not making the most of my life though, and at the end will I regret not having done more - need to book that skydive :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭flat out !!


    "Death be not proud, though some have called thee mighty and powerfull, thou art not so".... I forget the rest. !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Matt_Trakker


    I have sleepless nights from time-to-time coz I'm so scared of it.
    Not religious too, but I don't think that's the reason.
    I like living, I just don't want to die. Too many things to do and see and experience. I fell like I'm constantly running out of time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    did you pay for two seats? :pac:

    Nah - but I would avoid opening night/sold out shows as a general rule.

    Of course, the movie theaters never sell more tickets than they have seats, and each seat is separated by arm-rests. If they had 'bench seating' and routinely exceeded the printed 'Maximum Capacity' numbers - I might have felt the need to. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    I think its the timing that worries me most.. Two young kids and I really want to be around for them and the missus down the line.. I much more fear leaving them early than death itself..
    Particularly as I'm just into my 40's and the heart has started playing up, having a family history of early death from heart related things I'm doing everything I can to stay healthy..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    Funnily enough OP I feared death more as an agnostic than I do as a Christian. I don't really fear the concept anymore. I have no reason to if I believe what Jesus said. Whenever the time comes it will come.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭MJ23


    Your punishment must be more severe


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭MUSEIST


    philologos wrote: »
    Funnily enough OP I feared death more as an agnostic than I do as a Christian. I don't really fear the concept anymore. I have no reason to if I believe what Jesus said. Whenever the time comes it will come.

    What reason do you have to believe what jesus said and not say allah?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    MUSEIST wrote: »
    What reason do you have to believe what jesus said and not say allah?

    cos all other religions are wrong, duh.

    No I dont fear death, as long as it was painless and someone wipes my hard drive it'll be grand.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    MUSEIST wrote: »
    What reason do you have to believe what jesus said and not say allah?

    So many religions - so few lives....

    Personally, I think Shintoism gonna be the one true religion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 518 ✭✭✭Ironman76


    Dont fear death at all, sounds peaceful if anything but I greatly fear the suffering part. The thought of having a heart attack terrifies me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭BrensBenz


    I've just come through a tussle with Big C and, during complications after surgery, the possibility of not making it loomed large for a few days. The initial diagnosis was a shock but was even more a huge inconvenience! "But I can't die yet - I've too much stuff to do! Let's get the surgery done and dusted." The fear of death centred more on the things I hadn't done, the letting people down, etc.
    I believe there was a Jewish guy, about 2,000 years ago, of uncertain parentage, roamed around in sandals, was keen on carpentry and fishing, talked a whole lot of sense and became quite well known. I'd really like to meet him.........have a chat.........some day...........when I'm ready.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,349 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    As with many others I do not fear death itself at all. I certainly am enjoying life at present and am in no rush to have it end and will do my best to prolong it at this time. But death itself holds very little concern for me.

    The PROCESS of dying however and how I might end up meeting mine... now that is worth being worried about. I am not great with Pain. And I have to be doubly worried about living in a religious society which quite often does it's best to ensure you can not end your own life early when the pain becomes too much.

    Perhaps I need to take even more steps than I already have to ensure that if I need to painlessly end my own life at any stage that I can do so without any fanatics trying their damndest to stop me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    MUSEIST wrote: »

    What reason do you have to believe what jesus said and not say allah?

    Look at the other thread about Jesus in AH. I've explained why I can trust the accounts concerning Him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭Green Mile


    antodeco wrote: »
    Once I get to say goodbye to everyone. Tell everyone I love them, give them a hug and come up with some witty last line, Ill be happy

    Do it and say it now. Faith could take you any day and there's no time like the present.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    As with many others I do not fear death itself at all. I certainly am enjoying life at present and am in no rush to have it end and will do my best to prolong it at this time. But death itself holds very little concern for me.

    The PROCESS of dying however and how I might end up meeting mine... now that is worth being worried about. I am not great with Pain. And I have to be doubly worried about living in a religious society which quite often does it's best to ensure you can not end your own life early when the pain becomes too much.

    Perhaps I need to take even more steps than I already have to ensure that if I need to painlessly end my own life at any stage that I can do so without any fanatics trying their damndest to stop me.

    Dying painfully and slowly concerns me far more than actual death itself. We live in a society where its considered more humane to let people suffer than to end their lives on their own terms.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭franktheplank


    What is this 'fear' you speak of?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    I'd rather die rather young-ish 40-50 than die elderly alone in a home. Seems more dignified to go at that stage than living as a shadow of your former self, needing help to do basic things like going to the toilet.
    My catholic upbringing led to a lot of childhood nightmares about going to hell. Since becoming atheist I've understood the concept of death for what it is and have a clearer understanding that its all part of natures cycle.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,349 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    What is this 'fear' you speak of?

    It is the mind killer. The little death that brings total obliteration.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 19 charliesheens


    no cause it will just happen out of nowhere u wont even know it happened

    just make as much money and **** as much birds as you can before it does and your grand


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Yes, it's my biggest fear. I hate the thought of not existing any more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    What we do on the internet echoes in eternity, so we'll be grand I reckon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    philologos wrote: »
    Funnily enough OP I feared death more as an agnostic than I do as a Christian. I don't really fear the concept anymore. I have no reason to if I believe what Jesus said. Whenever the time comes it will come.

    tbh If I didn't actually understand the concept of death then I wouldn't fear it either. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    I fear dying alone, or in agony, but I have no fear of death itself.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    I don't know, I know I was not afaird of death in the past. I have had a few experiences where I thought this is it and I don't think I was afaird of it. I been with a few people when their time has expired and seen a fair few of my childhood mates go underground.

    However, I'm not sure why, what has happened to change my viewpoint, [if it has changed] but I know that for the past few years I don't have that certainity that I used to have.

    I have looked at this a bit in my personal analysis but have not answers as yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭howamidifferent


    Like most, I don't fear death but I do fear any pain that might coincide with my dying. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭Luca Brasi


    Not afraid. Just hope I dont share a room with Jimmy Saville


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Death Fears ME! :p

    Nah, the only fear or worry is how I go, may it be quick and painless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    mike65 wrote: »
    Death Fears ME! :p

    Nah, the only fear or worry is how I go, may it be quick and painless.

    You know you cant take all them posts with you when you die, you should start spending them, maybe share them amount your friends or just donate some to charity. No point in hoarding them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭SuperGrover


    "And I am not frightened of dying. Any time will do, I don't mind. Why should I be frightened of dying? There's no reason for it – you've got to go sometime."

    — Gerry O'Driscoll, Abbey Road Studios janitorial "browncoat"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqCEPytSFqU


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭RossFixxxed


    After all the people I've seen die, I'm more terrified of it than ever. The screaming agonies some suffered, the sudden nature some people just shutting down so quick they did not have a chance to even look shocked. It's always sad and terrible.

    I see so many I know getting serious illness and other life threathening things and it just reminds me of how fragile we are. Watching it actually happen is shocking in its mundane nature, it's just a machine that has switched off.

    I don't want to go like some I've seen. I actually have not come to terms with my own mortality at all and it definitely affects my life with a constant, albeit slight, fear at the back of my mind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭seven_eleven


    Death terrifies me. But I think the process of death scares me more than anything. Cancer, disease, suffering, they are the things I never want have to go through. I often think "what if I die tomorrow?" and it makes me feel uncomfortable because I'm not ready to die yet.

    I work with elderly, and Ive seen the suffering they go through. The ones who live the last years of their lives in pain, they cant move, they cant talk, they cant feed themselves. The ones who are still sentient but aren't allowed eat so all their food goes through a tube. They beg for food, they want to taste it again and enjoy it but they cant.

    Those literally trapped in their minds. Laying there, I feed them and they can hardly react, sometimes they cry or attempt to let out a moan, but its too much. You can never be sure what they mean or what they want.

    I'm not saying all elderly are like this. I work with those who are quite happy too, and that's fine. But I never, ever, ever want to get to the stage where I cant care for myself. Some of them live 10+ years in this state.

    Then there's the problem of whats after death that scares me. I don't have time for religion or particularly care about it. Sometimes you think really deep about what the hell is behind everything. Most people have this idea of something after death, even if its "nothing". But no, there isn't even that :eek: because nothing is something. There's no blank space, or darkness, no mind, just absolutely nothing. Or is there something? Its this uncertainty that I'm afraid of.

    :( I don't want to age anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,541 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Tyrion Lannister when asked how he envisages his death: "I hope to be 80, lying in my bed with a belly full of wine and a young woman on my c0ck". Pretty much my philosophy on death too!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    I really wish euthanasia for the terminally ill was legalised worldwide. I'm not afraid of death but the idea of dying in agony for days/weeks/months in a hospital bed is terrifying beyond measure. Not to mention people with severe paralysis or locked in syndrome, trapped in their own bodies for years on end. And it could happen to anybody at any time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,336 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    meoklmrk91 wrote: »
    I do not fear death whatsoever, infant I feel very comfortable with the idea that I could die tomorrow, in 10 years or however long, it really doesn't bother me at all.

    As painful as suicide is I think it is nice that people get the chance to tie up loose ends, to say goodbye, to write a letter, etc. to me that's closure, of course for the people left behind there could be a hundred letters and they would still be angry, distraught and confused.

    So as I don't mind when I go the timing doesn't bother me, none of us know how little or much we have left, but would you really want to know? I don't think I would.

    Like you I don't believe in God, I also don't believe in a afterlife, it has made my life much better, death seems much less morbid now, it is my atheism that has helped me become so comfortable with the concept of the death, where as when I was a child and believed the whole thing was very frightening.

    :eek::eek::eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Before I got married and had children I never feared death and lived quite recklessly however all that has changed now with the arrival of my two daughters. I still don't fear death however I have no wish to die anytime soon.

    I do not believe that death is the final frontier and that there is nothing afterwards. I get comfort from the belief I will be reunited with my dad and grandparents in the next life. I'm not a religious person and I have absolutely no way of qualifying that belief in the same way that those who say death is final cannot qualify their beliefs either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭tmc86


    I don't fear death, but I'd fear the impact it would have on my family.

    I also fear growing old and useless and not being able to do anything. Simply just existing as a pensioner is what scares me.

    As the wise Curtis "50 Cent" Jackson once said,:P
    "Death gotta be easy, cause life is hard"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    Cannot wait to see what awaits us on the otherside. Hopefully not too soon though as I've 3 young kids to see grow up yet.
    My brother will be there when I die, ready to meet me again, as will the rest of my family and friends that have gone before me. Of this I am certain. Ok no proof u could put in front of you but it is a knowing I have always had. It has zero to do with any religion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭MUSEIST


    I really wish euthanasia for the terminally ill was legalised worldwide. I'm not afraid of death but the idea of dying in agony for days/weeks/months in a hospital bed is terrifying beyond measure. Not to mention people with severe paralysis or locked in syndrome, trapped in their own bodies for years on end. And it could happen to anybody at any time.

    This. No reason to believe being dead is anything but what it was like before you were born. Just nothing. However I think most people fear dying in pain and the reality is that most people do to some extent.


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