The Academies

academyfan0

Heymans wrote: »

I think you're talking out your arse. Byrne was small prop at school at was selected because his TEAM did so well in the Cup over his year and the previous year. He wasn't as good individually as the team was.

what absolute ****e. The Byrne twins were stars in 5th and 6th year and were much better schools player than Josh W.

Josh W wasn't even the best prop on his team.

Harryclaim

Good to see Conor Hayes getting picked up by connacht , not sure if it’s been mentioned on here yet also does anyone know what deal Conor firz is on at connacht? Connacht have also added oran McNulty from bath to there sub academy

FR2

Any idea what club Aaron O'Sullivan is going to?

academyfan0

FR2 wrote: »

Any idea what club Aaron O'Sullivan is going to?

UCD presumably, as he is going to college there.

academyfan0

Leinster have had 4 irish under-20 hookers in the last two classes, only 1 made the leinster academy.

Tadgh McElroy - Saracens Academy
Ronan Kelleher - Leinster Academy
Eoghan Clarke - Munster Academy
Dan Sheehan - DUFC

ArmchairQB

academyfan0 wrote: »

Leinster have had 4 irish under-20 hookers in the last two classes, only 1 made the leinster academy.

Tadgh McElroy - Saracens Academy
Ronan Kelleher - Leinster Academy
Eoghan Clarke - Munster Academy
Dan Sheehan - DUFC

McElroy could be the one they regret letting go! A battle between himself and Kelleher would have been nice I would have taken them both.

Ally Bren 92

Mark Fleming(glenstal) and John McKee (campell) have joined Leinster u20s

The Lost Sheep

Ally Bren 92 wrote: »

Mark Fleming(glenstal) and John McKee (campell) have joined Leinster u20s

better suited to 20s thread then, no?
Havent joined an academy(yet). would be highly surprised either are with Leinster who dont really pick beyond the province as no need to

Ally Bren 92

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Ally Bren 92 wrote: »

Mark Fleming(glenstal) and John McKee (campell) have joined Leinster u20s

better suited to 20s thread then, no?
Havent joined an academy(yet). would be highly surprised either are with Leinster who dont really pick beyond the province as no need to[/quote

Well I guess you’re surprised then because it’s true

Harryclaim

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

better suited to 20s thread then, no?
Havent joined an academy(yet). would be highly surprised either are with Leinster who dont really pick beyond the province as no need to

John McKee would be a massive coup if true , Fleming is a very good player too both should make Irish 20/ next year

hoodor

Some of Leinster u19 squad:

Prop
Marcus Hanan(Clane)
Simon Clear(Gonzaga)
Cian Duffy(Blackrock)
Conor Cagney(Belvo)
Thomas Clarkson(Blackrock)
Charlie Ward(Tullow)
Fionn Finlay(St. Michaels)
Ryan McMahon(Clongowes)

Hooker
Mark Nicholson(Wicklow)
Gavin O'Brien(St. Marys)
Bobby Sheehan(Clongowes)
Ethan Baxter(Gonzaga)
Luke Thompson(Wicklow)

Lock
Sean O'Brien(Blackrock)
Brian Deeney(Wexford)
Cian Prendergast(Newbridge)
Jack Stapleton(Blackrock)
Dan Beggs(Clongowes)

Backrow
Anthony Ryan(Clongowes)
Jody Booth(St. Michaels)
Stephen Keane(St. Andrews)
Jack Cooke(Terenure)

stephen_n

Only 2 from Michael’s

hoodor

stephen_n wrote: »

Only 2 from Michael’s

at least two other backs in u19 squad from michaels.

michaels have very strong representation in u18 schools team and in u20 squad.

The Lost Sheep

stephen_n wrote: »

Only 2 from Michael’s

So? They may have others in 18s schools/20s squads.

should this not be in 20s thread as none are in academy?

stephen_n

hoodor wrote: »

at least two other backs in squad from michaels.

michaels have very strong representation in u18 schools team and in u20 squad.

Which is why I thought the relative lack of inclusion there was notable. It’s unusual at this stage for Michael’s to not have significant numbers in those squads.

hoodor

stephen_n wrote: »

Which is why I thought the relative lack of inclusion there was notable. It’s unusual at this stage for Michael’s to not have significant numbers in those squads.

yeah it's notable enough, but that age class isn't strong for Michaels.. unlike 20's and 18's.

Blackrock & Clongowes are strong at that class.

stephen_n

Are all the under 19’s who represent Leinster in the sub academy?

The Lost Sheep

stephen_n wrote: »

Are all the under 19’s who represent Leinster in the sub academy?

No all wouldnt

hoodor

stephen_n wrote: »

Are all the under 19’s who represent Leinster in the sub academy?

depends on how you define the sub academy, some view all underage players training with leinster over the summer as players in the sub academy during the summer.

then that number is whittled down in season.

stephen_n

But we don’t officially know who is and who isn’t in the sub academy?

Quin_Dub

stephen_n wrote: »

But we don’t officially know who is and who isn’t in the sub academy?

It's very rare that it is ever formally announced , Players themselves are told and eventually that detail filters out , but it's very very rate there will be an official press release giving a list of names

The Lost Sheep

The only time ive ever seen an official list of any of the sub academies was Munster's in 2010 when they listed their sub academy members in the programme for the game against Australia.

Chico Flores

Any idea what the backs would look like?

hoodor wrote: »

Some of Leinster u19 squad:

Prop
Marcus Hanan(Clane)
Simon Clear(Gonzaga)
Cian Duffy(Blackrock)
Conor Cagney(Belvo)
Thomas Clarkson(Blackrock)
Charlie Ward(Tullow)
Fionn Finlay(St. Michaels)
Ryan McMahon(Clongowes)

Hooker
Mark Nicholson(Wicklow)
Gavin O'Brien(St. Marys)
Bobby Sheehan(Clongowes)
Ethan Baxter(Gonzaga)
Luke Thompson(Wicklow)

Lock
Sean O'Brien(Blackrock)
Brian Deeney(Wexford)
Cian Prendergast(Newbridge)
Jack Stapleton(Blackrock)
Dan Beggs(Clongowes)

Backrow
Anthony Ryan(Clongowes)
Jody Booth(St. Michaels)
Stephen Keane(St. Andrews)
Jack Cooke(Terenure)

hoodor

Some backs i'd expect to be involved:

Shane Murphy(Skerries RFC)
Adam McEvoy(St. Marys)
Paddy McKenzie(Wicklow RFC)
Mick O'Gara(Pres Bray)
James Reynolds(CBC Monkstown)
Tom Maher(Blackrock)
Mark O'Brien(St. Michaels)
Andrew Smith(St. Michaels)
Max O’Reilly(St. Gerards)
Sam Dardis(Terenure)
John Maher(Clongowes)

Right now, it doesn't look the most talented of age groups.

Locke_Lamora

Saw Stewart Moore pictured training with Ulster’s seniors, so I’m assuming he’s part of the academy intake this season. I think Bruce Houston is in as well (not sure though), and some people speculated that Graham Curtis as been added. Anyone know anything definitive about Ulster’s intake this year?

Hands Like Flippers

LL

Heard a few names but holding off until its official.

Harryclaim

Hands Like Flippers wrote: »

LL

Heard a few names but holding off until its official.

Few names for what?

Hands Like Flippers

Harryclaim wrote: »

Hands Like Flippers wrote: »

LL

Heard a few names but holding off until its official.

Few names for what?

See message above mine.

RockBoysarewii

Scott penny to play hooker?

Harryclaim

RockBoysarewii wrote: »

Scott penny to play hooker?

What? Hardly he’s one of the best 7s we’ve had at underage level and about 6ft1 too

RockBoysarewii

Not my idea it’s just what I’ve heard.

Thermoman12

Harryclaim wrote: »

What? Hardly he’s one of the best 7s we’ve had at underage level and about 6ft1 too

He’s about 5’11 but size doesn’t matter

hoodor

Bigger need for Leinster at hooker, potentially quicker progression to senior squad at position for Penny when compared to openside, assuming he bulks up and nails basics of position.

Still it would be an odd move, should have tried similar moves with Max Kearney, Tom De Jongh, Alan Francis etc. but didn't.

RockBoysarewii

It isn’t written in stone it’s just a rumour we’ll find out when they release his position on the Leinster website.

hoodor

RockBoysarewii wrote: »

It isn’t written in stone it’s just a rumour we’ll find out when they release his position on the Leinster website.

meh, the website is often inaccurate.. we will find out if it's true if he plays hooker in u20 warm up games etc.

I doubt it's true tho.

his profile is missing from academy page at the minute for example.

hoodor

Most of the Leinster u18 club squad:

William Reilly(Portloaise)
Mark Boyle(Gorey)
Fionn Gilbert(Clontard)
Temi Lasisi(Enniscorthy)
Ryan Doyle(Clane)
Oisin O'Rourke(Athy)
Sean Kelly Komalofe(Wexford)
Karl Martin(Boyne)
Jamie Osborne(Naas)
Josh O'Connor(Wexford)
Diarmuid Brannock(Cill Dara)
Gary Faulkner(Navan)
James Reilly(Longford)
Adam Keating(Naas)
Ryan Foley(Athy)
Ben McGuiness(Wexford)
Ben Kidd(Enniscorthy)
Ben Jones(Barnhall)
Robert Murphy(Gorey)
Fionn O'Hara(Mullingar)
Luke Carton(Mullingar)
Sean O'Rourke(Athy)
Finn Tierney(Newpark)
Cormac Fenton(Wicklow)
Jack Hanlon(Tullow)
David Murphy(Newpark)
David Manning(Mullingar)
Gabriel Akinwande(Malahide)
Jordan Finney(Navan)
Philip Byrne(Tullow)
Patrick Kieran(Greystones)
Shane McGuiness(Wexford)
Larry Morgan(Navan)
Tim Corkery(Kilkenny)
Cathal Purcell(Dundalk)
Peter Mitic(Mullingar)

hoodor

Connacht Academy'Sub-Academy this summer:

Prop
Jordan Duggan
Matthew Burke
Conor Kenny
Ryan Lomas
Liam Winnett
Kuba Woitjowicz

Hooker
Dylan Tierney
Eoin de Buitlèar

Lock
Niall Murray
Darragh Murray
Mikey Wilson
Iarlaith Laheen-Morrin

Backrow
Sean Masterson
Paul Boyle
Neal Moylett
Joshua Dunne
Cian Huxford
Oisin McCormack

Scrumhalf
Stephen Kerins
Colm Reilly
Cathal Forde

Outhalf
Conor Fitzgerald
Conor Dean
Dylan Prendergast

Outside Backs
Kieran Joyce
Sean O'Brien
Adi Donovan
Saul O'Carroll
Colm de Buitléar
Luke Carty
Conor Hayes
Oran McNulty
Corey Reid
Mark Balaski
Hugh Lane
Shane Jennings
Conor O’Shaughnessy
Adam Cunningham

BigJimV

any news on the schools squad's

The Lost Sheep

BigJimV wrote: »

any news on the schools squad's

wait for schools thread to be set up. Isnt really suitable for academy thread. just like u18 youths squads news/info better suited to youths rugby thread.

hoodor

BigJimV wrote: »

any news on the schools squad's

some but not all:

Jack Boyle(St. Michaels)
Shane Connolly(Roscrea)
Levi Vaughan(Terenure)
Hugo O'Malley(Blackrock)
Lee Barron(St. Michaels)
Jamie Kavanagh(Wesley)
Max Mellet(Castleknock)
Aaron Deegan(Terenure)
Conor Carson(Gonzaga)
Jonathan Fish(St. Michaels)
Barry Dooley(Clongowes)
Will Hickey(St. Michaels)
Liam Heylin(Blackrock)
Gavin Meagher(Roscrea)
Tom Gilheany(Clongowes)
Ben Murphy(Pres Bray)
Rob Gilsenan(St. Michaels)
David Wilkinson(Clongowes)
Justin Leonard(Belvedere)
Matt Grogan(Belvedere)
Sam O'Dowd(Pres Bray)
Chris Cosgrave(St. Michaels)
Ed Kelly(St. Michaels)
Arthur Henry(Gonzaga)
Chris Grimes(Clongowes)
Josh Pyper(Pres Bray)
Dylan O'Grady(Belvedere)

Dubinusa

Connacht didn't grab Cormac Daly? I hope he goes up to Belfast. At times he looked like our best lock for the u20's.

Harryclaim

hoodor wrote: »

Connacht Academy'Sub-Academy this summer:

Prop
Jordan Duggan
Matthew Burke
Conor Kenny
Ryan Lomas
Liam Winnett
Kuba Woitjowicz

Hooker
Dylan Tierney
Eoin de Buitlèar

Lock
Niall Murray
Darragh Murray
Mikey Wilson
Iarlaith Laheen-Morrin

Backrow
Sean Masterson
Paul Boyle
Neal Moylett
Joshua Dunne
Cian Huxford
Oisin McCormack

Scrumhalf
Stephen Kerins
Colm Reilly
Cathal Forde

Outhalf
Conor Fitzgerald
Conor Dean
Dylan Prendergast

Outside Backs
Kieran Joyce
Sean O'Brien
Adi Donovan
Saul O'Carroll
Colm de Buitléar
Luke Carty
Conor Hayes
Oran McNulty
Corey Reid
Mark Balaski
Hugh Lane
Shane Jennings
Conor O’Shaughnessy
Adam Cunningham

Has Luke Carty been moved from 10?

Dubinusa

Matthew Byrne?

hoodor

Harryclaim wrote: »

Has Luke Carty been moved from 10?

focusing on fullback last i heard.

hoodor

Dubinusa wrote: »

Matthew Byrne?

not on the list of players I saw.

stellenbosch

hoodor wrote: »

not on the list of players I saw.

M Byrne released by Connacht?

hoodor

I believe this is the Incoming Ulster Academy class:

Azur Allison(Ballymena/Backrow) - u20
David McCann(RBAI/Backrow) - u19
Matthew Agnew(Bangor/Openside) - u21
Graham Curtis(SA/Scrumhalf) - u20
Bruce Houston(Ballymena/Outhalf) - u20
Stewart Moore(Ballymena/Centre) - u20
Iwan Hughes(Exile/Back Three) - u20

stephen_n

hoodor wrote: »

I believe this is the Incoming Ulster Academy class:

Azur Allison(Ballymena/Backrow) - u20
David McCann(RBAI/Backrow) - u19
Matthew Agnew(BRA/Openside) - u21
Graham Curtis(SA/Scrumhalf) - u20
Bruce Houston(Ballymena/Outhalf) - u20
Stewart Moore(Ballymena/Centre) - u20
Iwan Hughes(Exile/Back Three) - u20

What the hell were his parents thinking?

Hands Like Flippers

hoodor wrote: »

I believe this is the Incoming Ulster Academy class:

Azur Allison(Ballymena/Backrow) - u20
David McCann(RBAI/Backrow) - u19
Matthew Agnew(Bangor/Openside) - u21
Graham Curtis(SA/Scrumhalf) - u20
Bruce Houston(Ballymena/Outhalf) - u20
Stewart Moore(Ballymena/Centre) - u20
Iwan Hughes(Exile/Back Three) - u20
Aaron Sexton(Bangor/Wing) - u19

Has Sexton left school early?

hoodor

Hands Like Flippers wrote: »

Has Sexton left school early?

Dunno about his school status, but was at ulster open training yesterday.