The Academies

Thermoman12

sellit90000 wrote: »

Liam Turner is an interesting prospect, anyone think he will make the leinster academy?

Or will concerns about his lack of height and top end athleticism mean he will get passed over? Needs to nail down a starting position for Ireland u20.

combined with there being a wing in the academy of the same age grade and several good prospects on the wing in the age grade below him.

I think being shorter will help him due to his low center of gravity, it would be much harder for people to tackle him considering he’s very built aswell

sellit90000

Thermoman12 wrote: »

I think being shorter will help him due to his low center of gravity, it would be much harder for people to tackle him considering he’s very built aswell

we shall see how he gets on for the 20's.. will need to impress

LostArt03

How many academy players will play this weekend for Leinster?

Serbian

LostArt03 wrote: »

How many academy players will play this weekend for Leinster?

A lot less than last week anyway. I think Leinster will be looking to give some of the players from the autumn internationals game time before the ERC game against Bath.

Who exactly is likely to play? Back row is likely to feature one or two academy players with Leavy, Conan and O’Brien unlikely to feature. Probably two of Doris, Deegan, Murphy and Penny.

I don’t think any other positions will be filled by academy players.

elliot_st

Prop
Vakh Abdaladze(Coolmine RFC/Clontarf) - started at 3 for Clontarf.
Jack Aungier(Year 2/Suttonians RFC/Terenure) - started at 3 for Terenure.
Michael Milne(Year 1/CC Roscrea-Birr RFC/UCD) - started at 1 for UCD.

Donnacha Mescal(U20/Blackrock/DUFC) - started at 1 for DUFC.
Niall McEniff(U20/St. Marys/St. Marys) - bench for St. Marys.
Thomas Clarkson(U19/Blackrock/DUFC) - started at 3 for DUFC.
Harry Noonan(U19/Greystones/Old Wesley) - bench for Old Wesley.

Hooker
Ronan Kelleher(Year 2/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - started at 2 for Lansdowne.
Dan Sheehan(Year 1/Clongowes/DUFC) - started at 2 for DUFC

Declan Adamson(U20/Clontarf/Clontarf) - started at 2 for Clontarf.
Bobby Sheehan(U19/Clongowes/UCD) - started at 2 for UCD.
Sean Molony(U20/Blackrock/UCD) - bench for UCD.
John McKee(U19/Campbell/Old Belvedere) - bench for Old Belvedere.

Lock
Jack Dunne(Year 1/St. Michaels/DUFC) - started at 5 for DUFC.
Ryan Baird(Year 1/St. Michaels/DUFC) - injured.

Brian Deeny(U19/Wexford/Clontarf) - started at 6 for Clontarf, 1 try.

Backrow
Oisin Dowling(Year 2/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - started at 5 for Lansdowne.
Scott Penny(Year 1/St. Michaels/UCD) - didnt play this weekend.

Ronan Watters(U20/St. Marys/St. Marys) - started at 7 for St. Marys.
Martin Moloney(U20/Athy RFC/Old Belvedere) - started at 7 for Old Belvedere.
Ruadhan Byron(U20/Belvedere/Clontarf) - bench for Clontarf
Rueben Pim(U20/Kilkenny/DUFC) - bench for DUFC.
Gerard Hill(U20/Belvedere/Old Belvedere) - bench for Old Belvedere.

Scrumhalf
Hugh O'Sullivan(Year 2/Belvedere/Clontarf) - didn't play this weekend.
Patrick Patterson(Year 1/Blackrock/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.

Shane Murphy(U19/Skerries RFC/UCD) - bench for UCD.

Outhalf
Ciaran Frawley(Year 2/Skerries RFC/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Harry Byrne(Year 1/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - bench for Lansdowne, 1 con.
David Hawkshaw(Year 1/Belvedere/Clontarf) - didn't play this weekend.

James Tarrant(U20/Blackrock/UCD) - bench for UCD.

Centre
Conor O'Brien(Year 3/Mullingar RFC/Clontarf) - didn't play this weekend.
Jimmy O'Brien(Year 3/Newbridge/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Gavin Mullin(Year 2/Blackrock/UCD) - started at 13 for UCD.
Tommy O'Brien(Year 2/Blackrock/UCD) - injured.

Back Three
Hugo Keenan(Year 3/Blackrock/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Jack Kelly(Year 3/St. Michaels/DUFC) - started at 13 for DUFC.
Michael Silvester(Year 1/Clongowes/DUFC) - started at 15 for DUFC.
Aaron O'Sullivan(Year 1/Exile/UCD) - injured.

Liam Turner(U20/Blackrock/DUFC) - started at 14 for DUFC.
Hugo Conway(U20/St. Marys/St. Marys) - started at 14 for St. Marys.
Conor Kelly(U20/Roscrea/Clontarf) - started at 15 for Clontarf.
Adam LaGrue(U20/Terenure/Terenure) - started at 13 for Terenure.
Ruairi Shields(U20/St. Marys/St. Marys) - started at 11 for St. Marys.
Sam Dardis(U19/Terenure/Terenure) - bench.

D14Rugby

Guessing that the second parts in that list are just people you think are notable?

elliot_st

D14Rugby wrote: »

Guessing that the second parts in that list are just people you think are notable?

some are sub-academy players, others are underage players who were involved with leinster previously, most of them last summer at either u20 or u19 level.

ArmchairQB

elliot_st wrote: »

Prop
Vakh Abdaladze(Coolmine RFC/Clontarf) - started at 3 for Clontarf.
Jack Aungier(Year 2/Suttonians RFC/Terenure) - started at 3 for Terenure.
Michael Milne(Year 1/CC Roscrea-Birr RFC/UCD) - started at 1 for UCD.

Donnacha Mescal(U20/Blackrock/DUFC) - started at 1 for DUFC.
Niall McEniff(U20/St. Marys/St. Marys) - bench for St. Marys.
Thomas Clarkson(U19/Blackrock/DUFC) - started at 3 for DUFC.
Harry Noonan(U19/Greystones/Old Wesley) - bench for Old Wesley.

Hooker
Ronan Kelleher(Year 2/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - started at 2 for Lansdowne.
Dan Sheehan(Year 1/Clongowes/DUFC) - started at 2 for DUFC

Declan Adamson(U20/Clontarf/Clontarf) - started at 2 for Clontarf.
Bobby Sheehan(U19/Clongowes/UCD) - started at 2 for UCD.
Sean Molony(U20/Blackrock/UCD) - bench for UCD.
John McKee(U19/Campbell/Old Belvedere) - bench for Old Belvedere.

Lock
Jack Dunne(Year 1/St. Michaels/DUFC) - started at 5 for DUFC.
Ryan Baird(Year 1/St. Michaels/DUFC) - injured.

Brian Deeny(U19/Wexford/Clontarf) - started at 6 for Clontarf, 1 try.

Backrow
Oisin Dowling(Year 2/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - started at 5 for Lansdowne.
Scott Penny(Year 1/St. Michaels/UCD) - didnt play this weekend.

Ronan Watters(U20/St. Marys/St. Marys) - started at 7 for St. Marys.
Martin Moloney(U20/Athy RFC/Old Belvedere) - started at 7 for Old Belvedere.
Ruadhan Byron(U20/Belvedere/Clontarf) - bench for Clontarf
Rueben Pim(U20/Kilkenny/DUFC) - bench for DUFC.
Gerard Hill(U20/Belvedere/Old Belvedere) - bench for Old Belvedere.

Scrumhalf
Hugh O'Sullivan(Year 2/Belvedere/Clontarf) - didn't play this weekend.
Patrick Patterson(Year 1/Blackrock/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.

Shane Murphy(U19/Skerries RFC/UCD) - bench for UCD.

Outhalf
Ciaran Frawley(Year 2/Skerries RFC/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Harry Byrne(Year 1/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - bench for Lansdowne, 1 con.
David Hawkshaw(Year 1/Belvedere/Clontarf) - didn't play this weekend.

James Tarrant(U20/Blackrock/UCD) - bench for UCD.

Centre
Conor O'Brien(Year 3/Mullingar RFC/Clontarf) - didn't play this weekend.
Jimmy O'Brien(Year 3/Newbridge/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Gavin Mullin(Year 2/Blackrock/UCD) - started at 13 for UCD.
Tommy O'Brien(Year 2/Blackrock/UCD) - injured.

Back Three
Hugo Keenan(Year 3/Blackrock/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Jack Kelly(Year 3/St. Michaels/DUFC) - started at 13 for DUFC.
Michael Silvester(Year 1/Clongowes/DUFC) - started at 15 for DUFC.
Aaron O'Sullivan(Year 1/Exile/UCD) - injured.

Liam Turner(U20/Blackrock/DUFC) - started at 14 for DUFC.
Hugo Conway(U20/St. Marys/St. Marys) - started at 14 for St. Marys.
Conor Kelly(U20/Roscrea/Clontarf) - started at 15 for Clontarf.
Adam LaGrue(U20/Terenure/Terenure) - started at 13 for Terenure.
Ruairi Shields(U20/St. Marys/St. Marys) - started at 11 for St. Marys.
Sam Dardis(U19/Terenure/Terenure) - bench.

Dan Sheehan is on a temporay academy contract that got extended he is not on a full academy contract, may graduate to one but not on a full one as of yet

elliot_st

ArmchairQB wrote: »

Dan Sheehan is on a temporay academy contract that got extended he is not on a full academy contract, may graduate to one but not on a full one as of yet

seems like to me he is on a standard 1 year deal, so what's the difference?

He is training with seniors along with the rest of the academy.

elliot_st

5 st. michaels players in Ireland u18 training camp over christmas.

Jack Boyle(LH Prop)
Lee Barron(Hooker)
Will Hickey(Backrow)
Rob Gilsenan(Scrumhalf)
Chris Cosgrave(Fullback)

some other leinster players involved

Sam Illo(LH Prop)
Levi Vaughan(Hooker)
Alex Soroka(Lock)
Ben Murphy(Scrumhalf)
Karl Martin(Centre)
Jamie Osborne(Fullback)

elliot_st

Potential Leinster academy next season?

Jack Aungier(Suttonians/Terenure) - Year 3
Michael Milne(Roscrea/UCD) - Year 2
Tom Clarkson(Blackrock/DUFC) - Year 1

Ronan Kelleher(St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - Year 3
Dan Sheehan(Clongwoes/DUFC) - Year 2

Oisin Dowling(St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - Year 3
Ryan Baird(St. Michaels/DUFC) - Year 2
Charlie Ryan(/Blackrock/UCD) - Year 1

Scott Penny(St. Michaels/UCD) - Year 2
Martin Moloney(Athy/Old Belvedere) - Year 1

Patrick Patterson(Blackrock/UCD) - Year 2
Cormac Foley(St. Gerards/St. Marys) - Year 1

Harry Byrne(St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - Year 2
David Hawkshaw(Belvedere/Clontarf) - Year 2

Tommy O'Brien(Blackrock/UCD) - Year 3
Gavin Mullin(Blackrock/UCD) - Year 3

Michael Silvester(Clongwoes/DUFC) - Year 2
Aaron O'Sullivan(Exile/UCD) - Year 2
Liam Turner(Blackrock/DUFC) - Year 1

Hands Like Flippers

Some Ulster names in u18 December camp:

Nathan Doak 10 Wallace started at 9 last year.
Ben Carson 12 Wallace u17
Reuben Xxx 7 Wallace u17

Oscar Egan prop Coleraine

Presumably Tom Stewart BRA at hooker as he started last year for the schools team.

Haven't seen any others.

Heymans

Elliott Of those who do you think will get senior contracts?

Hands Like Flippers

elliot_st wrote: »

5 st. michaels players in Ireland u18 training camp over christmas.

Jack Boyle(LH Prop)
Lee Barron(Hooker)
Will Hickey(Backrow)
Rob Gilsenan(Scrumhalf)
Chris Cosgrave(Fullback)

some other leinster players involved

Sam Illo(LH Prop)
Levi Vaughan(Hooker)
Alex Soroka(Lock)
Ben Murphy(Scrumhalf)
Karl Martin(Centre)
Jamie Osborne(Fullback)

Saw CC play 13 for At Michael's in Belfast a few months ago. Very good.

Locke_Lamora

Hands Like Flippers wrote: »

Some Ulster names in u18 December camp:

Nathan Doak 10 Wallace started at 9 last year.
Ben Carson 12 Wallace u17
Reuben Xxx 7 Wallace u17

Oscar Egan prop Coleraine

Presumably Tom Stewart BRA at hooker as he started last year for the schools team.

Haven't seen any others.

Reuben Crothers?

Hands Like Flippers

Locke_Lamora wrote: »

Reuben Crothers?

Yes. According to Wallace he was the openside and captain of the u18 school and club side v the schools. The other two Wallace guys were Schools team.

Hands Like Flippers

elliot_st wrote: »

would make both starting centres u17.

Don't quite follow. Sorry.

Hands Like Flippers

elliot_st wrote: »

Ben Carson started at 12 and Karl Martin started at 13, making both starting centres under-17 and eligible again next season.

Very good. Look forward to seeing a few of the games.

Did you see the team sheets at all?

Hands Like Flippers

elliot_st wrote: »

not a full teamsheet no, A team:

1. George Saunderson(Ulster)
2. Lee Barron(Leinster)
3. Mark Donnelly(Munster)
4. Alex Soroka(Leinster)
5. Darragh Murray(Connacht)
6. Will Hickey(Leinster)
7. Hubert Costello(Connacht)
8. Alex Kendellan(Munster)
9. Ben Murphy(Leinster)
10. Nathan Doak(Ulster)
11.
12. Ben Carson(Ulster)
13. Karl Martin(Leinster)
14.
15. Chris Cosgrave(Leinster)

B team:

1. Sam Illo(Leinster)
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7. Rueben Crothers(Ulster)
8. Daniel Okeke(Munster)
9. Rob Gilsenan(Leinster)
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15. Jamie Osborne(Leinster)

Surprised no Tom Stewart at hooker in there given he started for Schools last year. Highly rated in Ulster. Played 2 for Ulster v Australia recently.

Hands Like Flippers

elliot_st wrote: »

could be injured, dunno.

Or hols I suppose as played on Saturday past.

arsebiscuits1

elliot_st wrote: »

Potential Leinster academy next season?


Scott Penny(St. Michaels/UCD) - Year 2

I know he's only started 3 games so far for us but I wonder could he be promoted early?

Wasn't in the case that Connacht came knocking for Doris so they bumped him up to a senior contract early?

Penny might find himself in a similar situation. If I were another province I'd be really buttering up Penny to join

D14Rugby

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

I know he's only started 3 games so far for us but I wonder could he be promoted early?

Wasn't in the case that Connacht came knocking for Doris so they bumped him up to a senior contract early?

Penny might find himself in a similar situation. If I were another province I'd be really buttering up Penny to join

Doris' family live in Mayo though so he'd be far more likely to move.

I'd probably cut down on the non academy chat lads, I like this thread, hate to see it closed.

Heymans

Elliott - What are the chances of Kelleher 2. getting a senior contract.

He is in year 3 of the Academy correct?

Stainalert

Heymans wrote: »

Elliott - What are the chances of Kelleher 2. getting a senior contract.

He is in year 3 of the Academy correct?

He's in year 2 of the academy

arsebiscuits1

Heymans wrote: »

Elliott - What are the chances of Kelleher 2. getting a senior contract.

He is in year 3 of the Academy correct?

Having seen him play a few. He's comfortably got the physicality for pro rugby and seems to have the skills although they need to be honed. He was excellent for the Leinster As

Given Leinster have the conference all but wrapped up and we have the Kings at home and Zebre away, there is a good chance for a cap or 2 for him to see if he can make it at a higher level

Heymans

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Having seen him play a few. He's comfortably got the physicality for pro rugby and seems to have the skills although they need to be honed. He was excellent for the Leinster As

Given Leinster have the conference all but wrapped up and we have the Kings at home and Zebre away, there is a good chance for a cap or 2 for him to see if he can make it at a higher level

Good I was wondering if the coaching staff were doing their utmost in succession planning in this area. Hopefully he makes a few appearances soon and gets a contract.

Would also like to see Dan Sheehan get a run out. He's a big unit from what I've seen

Squidgy Black

Kelleher will likely get a development contract at the end of next year, think it's clear that Tracy isn't the answer at hooker and Byrne hasn't really had much of a look in for bigger games despite being 25 now.

elliot_st

Leinster Academy Team

1. Michael Milne(19/Roscrea/UCD)
2. Ronan Kelleher(20/St. Michaels/Lansdowne)
3. Jack Aungier(20/Suttonians RFC/Terenure)
4. Ryan Baird(19/St. Michaels/DUFC)
5. Jack Dunne(20/St. Michaels/DUFC)
6. Oisin Dowling(21/St. Michaels/Lansdowne)
7. Scott Penny(19/St. Michaels/UCD)
8. Ronan Watters(19/St. Marys/St. Marys)
9. Hugh O'Sullivan(20/Belvedre/Clontarf)
10. Ciaran Frawley(21/Skerries RFC/UCD)
11. Tommy O'Brien(20/Blackrock/UCD)
12. Conor O'Brien(22/Mullingar/Clontarf)
13. Jimmy O'Brien(22/Newbridge/UCD)
14. Jack Kelly(21/St. Michaels/DUFC)
15. Hugo Keenan(22/Blackrock/UCD)
16. Dan Sheehan(20/Clongowes/DUFC)
17. Guiseppe Coyne(19/Blackrock/DUFC)
18. Tom Clarkson(18/Blackrock/DUFC)
19. Charlie Ryan(19/Blackrock/UCD)
20. Martin Moloney(19/Athy RFC/Old Belvedere)
21. Patrick Patterson(20/Blackrock/UCD)
22. Harry Byrne(19/St. Michaels/Lansdowne)
23. Michael Silvester(20/Clongowes/DUFC)

Heymans

Elliott what are the chances of Kelly, Keenan or Sylvester being given a senior contract in the next few years?

BorkLaser93

D14Rugby wrote: »

I'd probably cut down on the non academy chat lads, I like this thread, hate to see it closed.

Really? Talking about academy players is too much now? The schools thread is already a bag of ****e and now this thread could get derailed because people are talking about moving young players around the provinces? Christ...this is a forum isn't it? Free speech and all that.

The Lost Sheep

BorkLaser93 wrote: »

Really? Talking about academy players is too much now? The schools thread is already a bag of ****e and now this thread could get derailed because people are talking about moving young players around the provinces? Christ...this is a forum isn't it? Free speech and all that.

D14 didnt say anything about talking about academy players. They said talking about people who're still in school and the schools thread is what it is because it was "a bag of ****e" in its previous incarnation

BorkLaser93

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

D14 didnt say anything about talking about academy players. They said talking about people who're still in school and the schools thread is what it is because it was "a bag of ****e" in its previous incarnation

Either way...I don't understand this obsession to hush any talk about young/schools players. People are interested and want to know which players to look out for coming through the system.

D14Rugby

BorkLaser93 wrote: »

Really? Talking about academy players is too much now? The schools thread is already a bag of ****e and now this thread could get derailed because people are talking about moving young players around the provinces? Christ...this is a forum isn't it? Free speech and all that.

Learn to read before snapping at someone.

donnybrook1

why isn’t Patterson getting a chance ahead of O sullivan Patterson has shown his ability in his sub cameo and for A while O sullivan is just a basic 9

ArmchairQB

donnybrook1 wrote: »

why isn’t Patterson getting a chance ahead of O sullivan Patterson has shown his ability in his sub cameo and for A while O sullivan is just a basic 9

because he not good enough yet anyway. Lancasters judgement hasnt been to bad last few seasons so I think his choice should tell you what you need to know.

arsebiscuits1

donnybrook1 wrote: »

why isn’t Patterson getting a chance ahead of O sullivan Patterson has shown his ability in his sub cameo and for A while O sullivan is just a basic 9

According to whom?

You? Internet stranger...

Or Leinster coaches with supplementing video footage, nutritional info, gym stats and a range of s&c data. Who also personally know both players and how they fit into the plan

I think I know whose opinion I value more lol.

Also I've been in queues that have gone on longer than Pattersons time in the Academy so far. He will get his chances.

Buer

donnybrook1 wrote: »

why isn’t Patterson getting a chance ahead of O sullivan Patterson has shown his ability in his sub cameo and for A while O sullivan is just a basic 9

I watched the recent A match in Thomond. He had some exciting breaks but he also made some very basic errors and put his team under pressure.

He had a 13 minute cameo against the Dragons when Leinster were 35 points ahead, hard to read much into it. Hopefully he gets another appearance during the 6N but he'd be far better served from getting some full matches under his belt and being able to actually develop.

NoScrumNoWin0

donnybrook1 wrote: »

why isn’t Patterson getting a chance ahead of O sullivan Patterson has shown his ability in his sub cameo and for A while O sullivan is just a basic 9

Patterson also shown his weaknesses in the recent Leinster A game, he was pretty lucky to make the academy last season, where he was also behind Hugh for Ireland u20.

Both 9's need gametime to develop their decision making, unfortunately they won't be getting that in the AIL this season due to leinster's injury situation.

kingofthekong

David Aspil trainning with the Leinster squad - whats his status? I was disappointed when none of the munster, connacht or Ulster academies picked him up - then again he may have turned down some offers I don't know

Squidgy Black

kingofthekong wrote: »

David Aspil trainning with the Leinster squad - whats his status? I was disappointed when none of the munster, connacht or Ulster academies picked him up - then again he may have turned down some offers I don't know

Playing AIL with Mary's, coaching with The High School as well while in college I believe.

D14Rugby

kingofthekong wrote: »

David Aspil trainning with the Leinster squad - whats his status? I was disappointed when none of the munster, connacht or Ulster academies picked him up - then again he may have turned down some offers I don't know

As has been said already he's playing AIL, coaching and in college. Turned down an offer from Ulster I believe because it just wasn't viable regarding pay, travel, education or anything really.

ArmchairQB

D14Rugby wrote: »

As has been said already he's playing AIL, coaching and in college. Turned down an offer from Ulster I believe because it just wasn't viable regarding pay, travel, education or anything really.

Mary's always good for a few quiid

D14Rugby

ArmchairQB wrote: »

Mary's always good for a few quiid

I'm not sure the mary's, alleged, pay was really that big a factor more that the academy contract from Ulster was an amount that wouldn't really enable him to move up but if he stayed down here the travel would mean he couldn't go to college as well so it basically became a choice of join the ulster academy with lots of travel or stay with mary's, play ail, go to college and coach and he chose the latter.

RockBoysarewii

D14Rugby wrote: »

I'm not sure the mary's, alleged, pay was really that big a factor more that the academy contract from Ulster was an amount that wouldn't really enable him to move up but if he stayed down here the travel would mean he couldn't go to college as well so it basically became a choice of join the ulster academy with lots of travel or stay with mary's, play ail, go to college and coach and he chose the latter.

Who’s he coaching?

D14Rugby

RockBoysarewii wrote: »

Who’s he coaching?

It's about 4 replies up someone said he was coaching in The High School, his old school.

Lucas44

Can Anyone confirm if dan Sheehan has been dropped by leinster? Looked like a good prospect and would be a good coup for ulster

Squidgy Black

Lucas44 wrote: »

Can Anyone confirm if dan Sheehan has been dropped by leinster? Looked like a good prospect and would be a good coup for ulster

He was in the sub-academy, not sure if he'll get a full academy deal.

Don't think Ulster will be looking to sign any hookers to the academy though, especially given the fact McKee wasn't offered a place in the sub-academy there despite being a decent prospect

scrummieman

Squidgy Black wrote: »

He was in the sub-academy, not sure if he'll get a full academy deal.

Don't think Ulster will be looking to sign any hookers to the academy though, especially given the fact McKee wasn't offered a place in the sub-academy there despite being a decent prospect

He was training with the full academy most of the year and trained several times with the senior squad. Sheehan may have been released as he played with Irish students at the weekend, which was notable. If they have released him it's very interesting as he has been playing very well for Trinity, they have McKee, Sean Molony(UCD) and Declan Adamson(Clontarf) in the sub-academy. So maybe one of them have impressed them enough to move Sheehan on, along with Kelleher's obvious progression and potential.

Ulster didn't want McKee at hooker, they wanted him to try to continue at LH Prop. They have Claytan Milligan in their sub-academy, who they rated above McKee and Tom Stewart at u18 level who is also very highly rated.

But given McKee's progress I wouldn't be surprised if they went back after him.

scrummieman

Likely Leinster Academy class for next season:

Thomas Clarkson(DUFC/TH Prop)
John McKee(Old Bevledere/Hooker)
Charles Ryan(UCD/Lock)
Martin Moloney(Old Belvedere/Backrow)
Cormac Foley(St. Marys/Scrumhalf)
Liam Turner(DUFC/Centre-Wing)

Dubinusa

Hawkshaw? He looks promising.