CSCS Card

hungryharry

Thinking of moving to London from Ireland after christmas,was wondering can i do my cscs course in northern ireland or do i need an english adress?

YouTookMyName

You have to sit it. Has to be done in mainland UK. Can't do it online and you will need a National Insurance/UK tax number to sit it.

sneem-man

hungryharry wrote: »

Thinking of moving to London from Ireland after christmas,was wondering can i do my cscs course in northern ireland or do i need an english adress?

If you have a safe pass,you can exchange this for a cscs card,you won't have to do a touch screen test either.just a straight swap...

Birdsong

sneem-man wrote: »

If you have a safe pass,you can exchange this for a cscs card,you won't have to do a touch screen test either.just a straight swap...

Do you have any more information on this, how/ where can you do this

Spookypixie

Looking for information on where in Northern Ireland can my husband sit this exam.

Bench Press

sneem-man wrote: »

If you have a safe pass,you can exchange this for a cscs card,you won't have to do a touch screen test either.just a straight swap...

you certainly can not, where did you hear this?

brickie No 1

Hi, you cant swap one for the other, i done mine in newry with a southern address they even posted it out to me cost 180 stg, in northern ireland its a csr card very same as a uk one, just named diffrent i have a gold one.

kelledy

just so you know,, you can swap a fas safe pass for as cscs card for 30 pound.
Alll you need to do is send a fillled application form and a photo and a photo copy of an up to date safe pass.

I have done this myself this year so yes you 100% can

brickie No 1

kelledy wrote: »

just so you know,, you can swap a fas safe pass for as cscs card for 30 pound.
Alll you need to do is send a fillled application form and a photo and a photo copy of an up to date safe pass.

I have done this myself this year so yes you 100% can

This must be a new thing so, cos when i got mine 3 years ago you couldnt.:mad:

Birdsong

kelledy wrote: »

just so you know,, you can swap a fas safe pass for as cscs card for 30 pound.
Alll you need to do is send a fillled application form and a photo and a photo copy of an up to date safe pass.

I have done this myself this year so yes you 100% can

Can you please provide a link to the form, or website where you can get this form. I wasn't under impression it couldn't be done also

Johner

From the CSCS website,

EXEMPTIONS

If you have achieved a construction related NVQ or SVQ within the last two years and are applying for a CSCS card for the occupation the NVQ or SVQ relates to, you may not have to pass a CITB Health, Safety and Environment Test. Please check with your training provider. This is only available to new applications and cannot be used for card renewals.
CSCS has a mutual recognition agreement with FAS (Eire) Safepass which acts as an exemption to the Operative or Specialist CITB Health and Safety Test requirement. However, please note that the FAS (Eire) Safepass is not acceptable as an exemption to the Supervisor or Manager and Professional (MAP) level CITB Health, Safety and Environment test

If you are just working on a site it seems the Safe Pass will be fine.

kelledy

to be honest i just rang them and said i had an in date fas safe pass and they said to fill out a form, a photocopy of the safe pass, 30 pound, and some pictures and it arrived back around 1/2 months later in the post.
I can recall it being up on the cscs website somewhere.

I can tell you tho I done this around 6 months ago

3206jake

Im looking to Swap a FAS safe pass for a CSCS card to work in the uk

How do i go about this ??

I think its the green CSCS I need!

themullly

Sorry, newbie here, don't know the 'old threads' etiquette, but I'm sure if I've crossed it, I soon will.

I have researched this topic more recently, and from my understanding, the old green CSCS card route is gone.

Quagmire is an underused word, but is still probably the best way to describe where I got with it all.

I too am going back to work in the UK in the near future, and have spent far too much wasted time trying to decipher which colour card is best waste my money on.

I am lucky enough to have authentic;
CITB apprenticeship, City and Guilds trade cert, ordinary and honours degree (construction), and yet will probably end up buying my first CSCS card of a fat block-layer from Liverpool who 'knows somebody'.

Surely someone can help, in laymans terms.

themullly

Newbie here.
Don't know the 'old threads' etiquette, but I'm sure if I've crossed it, I soon will.

I have researched this topic more recently, and from my understanding the old green CSCS card route is gone.

Quagmire is an underused word, but is still probably the best way to describe where I got with it all.

I too am going back to work in the UK in the near future, and have spent far too much wasted time trying to decipher which colour card is best waste my money on.

I am lucky enough to have authentic;
CITB apprenticeship, City and Guilds trade cert, ordinary and honours degree (construction).
Yet will probably end up buying my first CSCS card of a fat block-layer from Liverpool who 'knows somebody'.

Surely someone can help, in laymans terms.

NoCrackHaving

themullly wrote: »

Newbie here.
Don't know the 'old threads' etiquette, but I'm sure if I've crossed it, I soon will.

I have researched this topic more recently, and from my understanding the old green CSCS card route is gone.

Quagmire is an underused word, but is still probably the best way to describe where I got with it all.

I too am going back to work in the UK in the near future, and have spent far too much wasted time trying to decipher which colour card is best waste my money on.

I am lucky enough to have authentic;
CITB apprenticeship, City and Guilds trade cert, ordinary and honours degree (construction).
Yet will probably end up buying my first CSCS card of a fat block-layer from Liverpool who 'knows somebody'.

Surely someone can help, in laymans terms.

Just do the test yourself, it's piss easy to pass.

ianwalsh2

Looks like they have changed the requirements for the basic green card route - it seems you now have to complete more than just the touch screen test. There is the option for a one day site safety cert - probably similar to the safepass course. As mentioned previously if you have a Safe Pass you can do a straight swap (I did this myself).

You don't mention what your occupation is, but if you have a degree you may be best to go for the Academically Qualified person. To get this card you'll have to do the Managerial and Professional (MAP) touch screen test which has a few extra possible questions from the standard test.

To be fair the CSCS website is fairly clear - just follow the instructions on their 'card-finder' where you fill in your occupation and they explain which card you should apply for. Not sure where you can do the test (i.e. if it can be done up north or if you'll have to go to a centre in the UK), but once it's done you then call up CSCS to apply for the card.

http://www.cscs.uk.com/card-finder/

themullly

Thanks for the reply Ian.

I have not worked (full-time) in UK for twenty years.

I was trying to ask;

Would my best option be to get the AQP card, £44, which lasts five years, and as far as I can understand, is white?
Or use my City and Guilds in Carpentry and Joinery (I got in the 80s) and get a 'Green/Red' card?.
Last time I was there i think i had a green card, and found agency newbies wanted references etc. to prove I had full Carpentry type qualifications.

I served an indentured apprenticeship (5yrs-time served), which meant I could apply/pay to be a master craftsman, with my level 8, I can apply/pay for recognition to some useless board or other for semi professional recognition.

45yrs old.

My underlying question is..

Is there, like a hierarchy of cards, to which I should put extra effort/money into obtaining. Would I look like a d*k with a white card etc.

Should I have a black/gold card....

The site safety ****e part. is that what you swap safepass?

thanks

AndyBoBandy

I know a guy in Ireland who is qualified to give the CSCS training here in Ireland, and it's totally legit.

I can provide details if required

The Irish SafePass is an X-travision card compared to CSCS card in the eyes of the U.K HSE

themullly

Thanks.

Any help much appreciated.

I hope I have not implied that I would condone anything 'not legit'

I have transcripts etc.

Please forward

AndyBoBandy

themullly wrote: »

Thanks.

Any help much appreciated.

I hope I have not implied that I would condone anything 'not legit'

I have transcripts etc.

Please forward

http://independentscaffold.ie/index.php

Stephen is the guy you need to talk to, he runs the safety training courses regularly (I am in no way affiliated with them), we've (global energy conglomerate) used them in the past for training purposes

ianwalsh2

I wouldn't bother going for the Green card route, by the sounds of things you've got the qualifications etc. so you wouldn't need to do that safety course. Just figure out which card is best for you and do whichever CITB touch screen test is related to that card.

It looks like you'd be best going for the Gold Card - Advanced Craft/Supervisory

From the CSCS website:

This card is available if you have either
•achieved a Construction Related NVQ or SVQ level 3 or
•you have completed an approved indentured apprenticeship (e.g.with NJCBI, BATJIC etc.) or
•completed an employer sponsored apprenticeship which included the achievement of a City and Guilds of London Institute Advanced Craft Certificate.

This card is valid for five years.

All applicants must pass the CITB Health, Safety & Environment Test. For Advanced Craft occupations you should take the Operative or the Specialist test depending what your occupation is. For Supervisory occupations you should take the Supervisors test.



The test is quite easy but I'd definitely recommend you buy the book for whichever test you're doing and have a browse through the various questions (link). You get the result of the test on the day and you can apply for the CSCS card straight away.

You probably should call up CSCS to confirm if that's the right card for you, and they can tell you exactly which test to do. I moved over 4 years ago and was pulling my hair out trying to figure out which card I needed. Having got in touch with them they set me on the right track and as I had a Safepass card it meant I didn't have to do the touch screen test, simply fill out the application form and pay the £30. Despite what Andybobandy says about the HSE, the Safepass is accepted instead of carrying out the test; from the CSCS website:

Do FAS cardholders need to take the CITB Health, Safety and Environment test to apply for a CSCS Card?

FÀS Safepass cardholders are exempt from having to take the CITB Health, Safety and Environment test when applying for a CSCS card. This is providing the Safepass is current and valid.

CSCS Card holders or affiliated scheme cardholders going from the UK to work on construction sites in the Republic of Ireland will have their CSCS card accepted in lieu of the Safepass card.

For more information visit www.fas.ie/ or call +353 (0)1 607 0500


Link

themullly

Sorry for not replying earlier.

My apprenticeship was CITB governed. Which, although hard earned in the late 80s, have since found useless. BUT, may now pay dividend for me/other members reading this, thanks to your clarification.

Gold Card sounds right.

I have since applied to do H-Dip in teaching, which is a similar entangled, jumble of a process. Any chance you could move back ?.

themullly

Again, hope my late apologies are understood 'ANDYBOPANDY'

Due to me not personally (as mentioned above) benefitting from your input, our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can't help them, at least don't hurt them. (Dalai Lamullly) Keep up the good work. BOARDS.IE is awesome.

themullly

Again, hope my late apologies are understood 'ANDYBOPANDY'

Although not personally, (as mentioned above) benefitting from your input, our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can't help them, at least don't hurt them. (Dalai Lamullly) Keep up the good work. BOARDS.IE is awesome.

Aryan79

Hi I hold CSCS Card for Managesr and Professional from UK which is a black card, How can i swap it to a safe pass in Ireland as i live in dublin and not sure how to change it? Thanks in advance

Birdsong

Aryan79 wrote:

Hi I hold CSCS Card for Managesr and Professional from UK which is a black card, How can i swap it to a safe pass in Ireland as i live in dublin and not sure how to change it? Thanks in advance

I think you would be as well off so the safe pass course, it's only 1 day, €100 approx and lasts for 4 years.

There is a lot of paperwork for the conversations and take a lot of time, you may need to have the safe pass sooner

Aryan79

Hi Birdsong and thanks for the reply
I dont need it right now so could you please tell me how to start the procedure to convert the card.
Thanks again.

AndyBoBandy

fill in this form

or look here on the SOLAS website

its a ridiculous process though, you send your application off to the U.K., who then process it and sent it back to Ireland. I needed to get a load of lads cards swapped over, and it ended up easier to just run a safe Pass course for them here!

Aryan79

Thanks , but this one is for plant cards, what i want is only safe card to work in construction sites.
thanks

AndyBoBandy

Have a look around the Solas website, Theres a whole section on Safe Pass