Stokes in hot water at Celtic

Coillte_Bhoy

Cienciano wrote: »

No, if it was a rangers player attending the fundraiser for a dead leader of the UVF, the Celtic fans on here would have no problem with it.

depends on the circumstances really. if it was a player from belfast who knew the person in question, then i wouldnt have a huge issue with t actually

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

depends on the circumstances really. if it was a player from belfast who knew the person in question, then i wouldnt have a huge issue with t actually

First we have to get a point cleared up this was not a funeral this was a fundraiser.
I would have a problem with a representative of my club attending any of these events knowing what they were all about

Bodhisopha

Maybe this explains why he bombed in England.

Sir Gallagher

Bodhisopha wrote: »

Maybe this explains why he bombed in England.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGwwEzefyAw

Meanwhile only 2 months ago....

Coillte_Bhoy If Stokes ran out at Ibrox with an armband in remembrance of a dead ira man i would have him on the transfer list straight away.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=80692878

Coillte_Bhoy

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

First we have to get a point cleared up this was not a funeral this was a fundraiser.
I would have a problem with a representative of my club attending any of these events knowing what they were all about

but i never said it was a funeral

Coillte_Bhoy

rarnes1 wrote: »

Meanwhile only 2 months ago....




http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=80692878

And?? Thats still my position and what point exactly are you trying to make?

Coillte_Bhoy

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

And?? Thats still my position and what point exactly are you trying to make?

Just pointing out how ridiculous you look trying to defend Stokes on this.

Coillte_Bhoy

rarnes1 wrote: »

Just pointing out how ridiculous you look trying to defend Stokes on this.

Why am i being ridicolous?? How can you possibly compare him wearing a black armband at Ibrox in memory of a dead ira man to what he actually did cos that is what you are doing by dragging up my old post. It's an absolutely ridiculous and stupid comparison to make. And i'm not sure i'm defending him as such to be honest, im just not jumping on the outraged bandwagon. Maybe im wrong but i dont recall stokes making any political statements or actively promoting militant republicanism though i stand to be corrected. Should i be in hot water at my workplace if i attended such a function or indeed should any of us?

Prop Joe

Both John Terry & Wayne Rooney have well known criminal connections,Where is the hullabaloo about these guys or what about Stevie Gerrard being a character witness for a armed robber and well known gangster.

Add in Stuart Pearce,Titus Bramble and many more who are connected to convicted criminals.

Stokes has some unsavory mates but is he any different to those mentioned?

BhoscaCapall

Pro. F wrote: »

Jesus talk about splitting hairs. You will wriggle anyway you can imagine rather than admit that it might be a bad thing that one of your team's players is associating with gangsters.

lol so it's okay for someone to spuriously claim I've said things, but when I correct them I'm splitting hairs?

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Prop Joe wrote: »

Both John Terry & Wayne Rooney have well known criminal connections,Where is the hullabaloo about these guys or what about Stevie Gerrard being a character witness for a armed robber and well known gangster.

Add in Stuart Pearce,Titus Bramble and many more who are connected to convicted criminals.

Stokes has some unsavory mates but is he any different to those mentioned?

Yeah those you mentioned's mates were not trying to kid people on they were some sort of republican heroes

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

but i never said it was a funeral

Your right you didn't and I meant to put that in my post
Just the amount of people saying it was is really annoying

Eirebear

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

lol so it's okay for someone to spuriously claim I've said things, but when I correct them I'm splitting hairs?

Lol, "spuriosly"?
Your post was dismissive of the situation, and insinuated a certain bigotry aspect of Scottish culture.

Now youre trying to dig your way out of it.
It really is that simple, and you are looking more and more like you're struggling to consolidate your own opinion as this thread progresses.

Coillte_Bhoy

Eirebear wrote: »

Lol, "spuriosly"?
Your post was dismissive of the situation, and insinuated a certain bigotry aspect of Scottish culture.

Now youre trying to dig your way out of it.
It really is that simple, and you are looking more and more like you're struggling to consolidate your own opinion as this thread progresses.

ah come on where did bigotry come into this?

BhoscaCapall

Eirebear wrote: »

Lol, "spuriosly"?
Your post was dismissive of the situation, and insinuated a certain bigotry aspect of Scottish culture.

Now youre trying to dig your way out of it.
It really is that simple, and you are looking more and more like you're struggling to consolidate your own opinion as this thread progresses.

If you can't comprehend simple sentences of the English language there really is no point in using a forum.

Although I get the impression you could hammer a load of random characters as a post and your wee sidekick would run along to Thank your post

Eirebear

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

ah come on where did bigotry come into this?

Read the post, look at the use of italics in the word Irish, you really think there was nothing else intended?

Eirebear

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Although I get the impression you could hammer a load of random characters as a post and your wee sidekick would run along to Thank your post

Just as well eh? If I actually managed to formulate a sentence I'd be in danger of making you look like a right bitter wee soul!

Broxi_Bear_Eire

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

If you can't comprehend simple sentences of the English language there really is no point in using a forum.

Although I get the impression you could hammer a load of random characters as a post and your wee sidekick would run along to Thank your post

Once again it s none of your business who I thank and stop trying to be a big man it isn't working

Coillte_Bhoy

Eirebear wrote: »

Read the post, look at the use of italics in the word Irish, you really think there was nothing else intended?

which post? Im rightly confused now:)

BhoscaCapall

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Once again it s none of your business who I thank and stop trying to be a big man it isn't working

Can you get a wifi signal that far up or do you have to reach your hand out?

Eirebear

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

which post? Im rightly confused now:)

This one.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=82064653&postcount=75

Broxi_Bear_Eire

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Can you get a wifi signal that far up or do you have to reach your hand out?

LOL oooohhhh insults

Coillte_Bhoy

Eirebear wrote: »

This one.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=82064653&postcount=75

I dont see how he is insinuating bigotry there, it was the irish media making a story of it was it not? maybe he can explain his use of italics though?

Eirebear

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

I dont see how he is insinuating bigotry there, it was the irish media making a story of it was it not? maybe he can explain his use of italics though?

Tom English isn't the Irish Media - He works for BBC Scotland and wrote that article for the Scotsman.
I'd be very interested in an explanation though, i'm up for a giggle tbh.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Eirebear wrote: »

Tom English isn't the Irish Media - He works for BBC Scotland and wrote that article for the Scotsman.
I'd be very interested in an explanation though, i'm up for a giggle tbh.

He really gets upset at that. Thanks

BhoscaCapall

Eirebear wrote: »

Tom English isn't the Irish Media - He works for BBC Scotland and wrote that article for the Scotsman.
I'd be very interested in an explanation though, i'm up for a giggle tbh.

Why not just make one up yourself and say I said it?

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

He really gets upset at that. Thanks

Aha the classic internet defence, where no matter how much somebody takes the piss out of you, if you say they're the one upset then they must be!

Eirebear

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Why not just make one up yourself and say I said it?

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Coillte_Bhoy

Eirebear wrote: »

Tom English isn't the Irish Media - He works for BBC Scotland and wrote that article for the Scotsman.
I'd be very interested in an explanation though, i'm up for a giggle tbh.

Ya thats right, i was thinking of the irish journalist, my bad

Coillte_Bhoy

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

He really gets upset at that. Thanks

me?

Cienciano

So, over 2 days since Stokes said on twitter "so many lies, I will go through it with you on here so ppl can see...". Lies exposed by stokes is still 1. And that's the bombshell that stokes didn't know Alan Ryan as a child. Funny enough, Stokes would be in a better position if he did.

Eirebear

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Ya thats right, i was thinking of the irish journalist, my bad

he is irish!

Coillte_Bhoy

Eirebear wrote: »

he is irish!

ha ha, true again. Me head is wrecked with this thread. Im off over to the huddleboard for some sanity.;)

secman

I would say his days at Celtic are numbered, the guy has a chip on his shoulder at the best of times anyways. Neil Lennon has had to deal with all that crap for too long without stokes bringing more on his doorstep.

Coillte_Bhoy

secman wrote: »

I would say his days at Celtic are numbered, the guy has a chip on his shoulder at the best of times anyways. Neil Lennon has had to deal with all that crap for too long without stokes bringing more on his doorstep.

why you say that?

Broxi_Bear_Eire

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Why not just make one up yourself and say I said it?


Aha the classic internet defence, where no matter how much somebody takes the piss out of you, if you say they're the one upset then they must be!

If you believe you are taking the piss then carry on Once again it's you that's acting like a spoiled child over who I thank and once again it's non of your business

Pro. F

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

lol so it's okay for someone to spuriously claim I've said things, but when I correct them I'm splitting hairs?

Nobody spuriously claimed you said things. The difference between "it wouldn't be such an issue" and "it wouldn't be an issue" is of fúck all consequence. The inconsequential difference didn't change the point that Coillte made in the slightest.

premierstone

Cienciano wrote: »

So, over 2 days since Stokes said on twitter "so many lies, I will go through it with you on here so ppl can see...". Lies exposed by stokes is still 1. And that's the bombshell that stokes didn't know Alan Ryan as a child. Funny enough, Stokes would be in a better position if he did.

He has been advised by he's legal reps and he's agent/advisor to keep quite and stay away from Tom English on Twitter untill the matter is resolved.

And one lie/untruth in any article is one too many for a so called ''Journalist'' and I use that term loosely.

Jelle1880

premierstone wrote: »

He has been advised by he's legal reps and he's agent/advisor to keep quite and stay away from Tom English on Twitter untill the matter is resolved.

And one lie/untruth in any article is one too many for a so called ''Journalist'' and I use that term loosely.

Traynor is a far better journalist than many who claim to be.

Cienciano

premierstone wrote: »

He has been advised by he's legal reps and he's agent/advisor to keep quite and stay away from Tom English on Twitter untill the matter is resolved.

And one lie/untruth in any article is one too many for a so called ''Journalist'' and I use that term loosely.

He'd probably been advised cos he's making a fool of himself. The club/agent/solicitors are telling him to stop digging a bigger hole for himself and to drop the subject.

Eirebear

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Traynor is a far better journalist than many who claim to be.

I assume he's talking about English? Who personally I find to be objective and articulate any time I listen to him or read a piece by him.
As for lies and untruths, its hard to see what Stokes could possibly sue for here.

He was at the event, he did know Ryan, Ryan was a violent criminal.
The rest is about opinion, you can't sue an opinion.

Jelle1880

****, my bad

Yeha, English isn't a bad journalist either.

premierstone

Eirebear wrote: »

I assume he's talking about English? Who personally I find to be objective and articulate any time I listen to him or read a piece by him.As for lies and untruths, its hard to see what Stokes could possibly sue for here.

He was at the event, he did know Ryan, Ryan was a violent criminal.
The rest is about opinion, you can't sue an opinion.

Jelle1880 wrote: »

****, my bad

Yeha, English isn't a bad journalist either.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/sfl-division-three/tom-english-charles-green-s-vision-in-an-exclusive-sorry-imaginary-briefing-1-2643329

Thats the same English who wrote this rubbish about your own club and who has in the last few weeks received death threats on rangersmedia.com??

Seriously lads you are making bigger fools out of yourselves here than I or that bofoon English ever could

Eirebear

premierstone wrote: »

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/sfl-division-three/tom-english-charles-green-s-vision-in-an-exclusive-sorry-imaginary-briefing-1-2643329

Thats the same English who wrote this rubbish about your own club and who has in the last few weeks received death threats on rangersmedia.com??

Seriously lads you are making bigger fools out of yourselves here than I or that bofoon English ever could

How'd you figure that one out?

Again, he wrote an opinion piece, i maynot agree with it but it's hardly the end of the world. His opinion of Charles Green is one that is held by a number of people, including many on here - so it's not exactly surprising that a journalist would eventually write an article about it is there?

As for death threats on RM, i've never used the website so i wouldn;t know about them - i'm not sure if you're somehow lumping myself and jelle in with those death threats or not, because they're hardly relevent to the topic at hand.

Foolish? No.
Just bored by the usual "If in doubt, attack rangers" response.

Cienciano

premierstone wrote: »

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/sfl-division-three/tom-english-charles-green-s-vision-in-an-exclusive-sorry-imaginary-briefing-1-2643329

Thats the same English who wrote this rubbish about your own club and who has in the last few weeks received death threats on rangersmedia.com??

Seriously lads you are making bigger fools out of yourselves here than I or that bofoon English ever could

Right, so Anthony Stokes isn't the fool, the people defending him for going to a fundraiser for the head of the RIRA aren't. It's the journalist for reporting the facts and the people that see something wrong with stokes actions (which include Celtic FC).
Right :rolleyes:

Jelle1880

premierstone wrote: »

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/sfl-division-three/tom-english-charles-green-s-vision-in-an-exclusive-sorry-imaginary-briefing-1-2643329

Thats the same English who wrote this rubbish about your own club and who has in the last few weeks received death threats on rangersmedia.com??

Seriously lads you are making bigger fools out of yourselves here than I or that bofoon English ever could

That was an opinion piece, I may not agree but that doesn't mean anything.

As for death threats: Prove it.

premierstone

Jelle1880 wrote: »

That was an opinion piece, I may not agree but that doesn't mean anything.

As for death threats: Prove it.

You can access that site as well as I can, if there were no death threats why was it reported on BBC two weeks ago that the website owners had to issue a warning to all users that their details would be passed on to the Police if the threats against English persisted??

For those saying it was an opinion piece, you are missing the point I wasn't referring to the fact that he had written a piece that reflected negatively on Rangers or their owner it was the quality or lack thereof of the piece it is gutter journalism, something English seems to excel at.

I am curious as to how we have suddenly moved on to where we have posters here claiming as fact that a) Stokes knowingly attended a RIRA fundraiser and b) that Celtic FC have any sort of problem with anything Stokes has done.

Like I said before I am not exactly a fan of the guy and he's future is pretty uncertain at Celtic but that has fcuk all to do with this made up story.

Madam

Eirebear wrote: »

just bored by the usual "If in doubt, attack rangers" response.

Or I can't understand why the faux outrage of Stokes's misadventures by Rangers fans on here - which can be even more boring to say the least! This thread is just the same old, same old tit for tat as I said yis are all making a big issue out of this - the media(those that matter - not sports journo's)) here in Scotland havn't raised a peep about this! NOBODY in Scotland cares as much as Rangers fans so obviously do and you accuse Celtic fans of obsessing?:rolleyes:

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Madam wrote: »

Or I can't understand why the faux outrage of Stokes's misadventures by Rangers fans on here - which can be even more boring to say the least! This thread is just the same old, same old tit for tat as I said yis are all making a big issue out of this - the media(those that matter - not sports journo's)) here in Scotland havn't raised a peep about this! NOBODY in Scotland cares as much as Rangers fans so obviously do and you accuse Celtic fans of obsessing?:rolleyes:

I think you will find that there is a hell of a lot of people in this thread who are not Rangers fans commenting on it. It really is amazing how when something comes up regarding Rangers I don't see you on complaining about so called tit for tat issues as for no one caring twitter is full of people talking about it and Stokes cared enough when he threatened English with legal action. And as this is an Irish board people certainly care when the Journalist who originally broke the story received death threats.

Il Trap

Jelle1880 wrote: »

I think it's because a lot of people see football players as some sort of representative of the club they play for.

For example if he walks around Dublin or Glasgow he wouldn't be Anthony Stokes, he would be Anthony Stokes, the Celtic player.

And that is a reason that I never want to see Stokes in an Ireland jersey again. Bad enough he has already worn it.