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Borrussia Dortmund v Manchester City (Setanta Ireland)

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  • #52
    cgpg5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,656 ✭✭✭cgpg5


    Shame to see English teams going out in the group, always like seeing them go as far as possible in Europe regardless of who they are. Can't see Arsenal beating last 16 anyway with a draw against a top seed


  • #53
    jacool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,117 ✭✭✭jacool


    Where's the litany of "Hart's no good" posts?
    He's a good face on him!


  • #54
    grenache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    peterswellman wrote: »
    Gutted that City couldn't get a win tonight. The Europa league is a punishment not a prize.
    :rolleyes: That's very disingenuous to the many quality sides in the EL. The 3rd place team in CL going into the EL is a farce and a disgrace, how many chances do UEFA want to give sides who are not good enough.


  • #55
    Will I Amnt
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    grenache wrote: »
    :rolleyes: That's very disingenuous to the many quality sides in the EL. The 3rd place team in CL going into the EL is a farce and a disgrace, how many chances do UEFA want to give sides who are not good enough.
    Not good enough for what??
    There is a sizeable difference in quality between the Champions League and Europa.

    I don't see the problem myself. Last 2 games of the group can often be meaningless for some teams in regards qualifying for the next stage but if there's a Europa League spot up for grabs it gives a bit of an incentive to field full strength teams and play for something.


  • #56
    mike65
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    The EL is punishment in terms of schedule rather than level of competition, that's Citys Euro coefficient holed beneath the waterline. Their next CL group will be no easier and possibly harder.


  • #57
    EdenHazard
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    i think its funny when people use experience as a reason for city struggling in europe. its not as if shaun goater, paul dickov and nicky weaver are in the team. as of these world class players absorb the culture that came before them. i remember they used that excuse last year when it was napoli's first time in the CL as well.


  • #58
    J. Marston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,229 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    EdenHazard wrote: »
    i think its funny when people use experience as a reason for city struggling in europe. its not as if shaun goater, paul dickov and nicky weaver are in the team. as of these world class players absorb the culture that came before them. i remember they used that excuse last year when it was napoli's first time in the CL as well.

    Yep. Maicon, Tevez, Balotelli and Toure are all Champions League winners. Aguero is a Europa League winner and played in the Champions League before joining City. Silva, Nasri, Dzeko, Garcia, Kolarov and Clichy all had Champions League experience before joining City.

    Those players are hardly rabbits in the headlights when it comes to the CL. That experience excuse is a load of balls.


  • #59
    [Deleted User]
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    Being out of Europe should help City in the league, as it did last year.


  • #60
    grenache
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    cambo2008 wrote: »
    Not good enough for what??
    There is a sizeable difference in quality between the Champions League and Europa
    Not good enough to qualify from their group, obviously!

    It is totally unfair to teams already in the EL that CL 3rd place losers enter into the completion. There should be no second bite of the cherry.

    But then again UEFA is more concerned with rewarding the big clubs at any cost to fairness. It's purely about money these days.
    cambo2008 wrote: »
    but if there's a Europa League spot up for grabs it gives a bit of an incentive to field full strength teams and play for something.
    City had something to play for last night. Yet their players were a disgrace, they hardly broke sweat, they clearly didn't care.

    Not won a European trophy in over 40 years, and these players turn their noses up at second chance.


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  • #61
    Will I Amnt
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    grenache wrote: »
    Not good enough to qualify from their group, obviously!

    It is totally unfair to teams already in the EL that CL 3rd place losers enter into the completion. There should be no second bite of the cherry.

    But then again UEFA is more concerned with rewarding the big clubs at any cost to fairness. It's purely about money these days.

    City had something to play for last night. Yet their players were a disgrace, they hardly broke sweat, they clearly didn't care.

    Not won a European trophy in over 40 years, and these players turn their noses up at second chance.
    Think of it as relegation. Just because they are not good enough for Champions League doesn't mean they are not good enough for Europa.

    You're using one team to make your point here. City were consistently shìt throughout the competition. What were you expecting??
    To save the best for the last game to qualify for the Europa?? Away to the group winners while also missing important players through injury??


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