Dark Souls II

[CrimsonGhost] · 28-05-2014 8:34am

Mickeroo wrote: »

No it's 4
The Rotten, Lost Sinner, Freja and Old Iron King
. but you can also get through the shrine of winter if you have a soul memory of 1 million (only works in NG though)

I believe 4 million is needed in NG+.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 28-05-2014 8:47am

Cydoniac wrote: »

Argh, I forgot how tough NG+ can be... Feels like I can never find a super powerful weapon without needing to cast crystal magic to make it decent. In Dark Souls 1 my +15 Scimitar ripped through everything...in this game melee just doesn't feel as limitless

it's a pain in the sack is what it is, they really want to push magic on you but I've seen magic users play the game in streams or when I summon. It's op and just not that fun looking

also, i forget who it was that was uchi'ing it up in the dark souls 1 thread but consider this whoever you are

they tried to gimp melee in dark souls 2. they included the uchigatana, they did not include the balder side sword

boom. headshot.

ZiabR · 28-05-2014 9:05am

So took down the Executioners Chariot last night but I wont lie, I died a few times on him due to the pesky skeletons!!! Also also you cannot block a single attack from the horse so I ended up switching to double handed sword and battering him.

Also that Red Phantom just before the boss fight killed me a few times, christ he hits hard... Just started Harvest Valley.

Mickeroo · 28-05-2014 9:12am

[CrimsonGhost] wrote: »

I believe 4 million is needed in NG+.

It wouldn't open for me with 4.5 million in NG+. I'm pretty sure you can only get through that that way in NG.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 28-05-2014 9:21am

logik wrote: »

Also that Red Phantom just before the boss fight killed me a few times, christ he hits hard... Just started Harvest Valley.

wait till you fight him at ng+

ZiabR · 28-05-2014 9:25am

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

wait till you fight him at ng+

I can only imagine, I mean for an Ultra Greatsword he moves SOO fast.

penev10 · 28-05-2014 9:38am

Mickeroo wrote: »

It wouldn't open for me with 4.5 million in NG+. I'm pretty sure you can only get through that that way in NG.

It says 2m on the wiki but I have the figure of 6m in my head, maybe someone mentioned it on YouTube.

Un Croissant · 28-05-2014 10:06am

That guy before the chariot actually stopped me moving that way for a few days. Had to come back and snipe him.

This time he took a few Emit Forces to the face

J_E · 28-05-2014 1:08pm

penev10 wrote: »

It says 2m on the wiki but I have the figure of 6m in my head, maybe someone mentioned it on YouTube.

There is no exact stat yet but apparently it's roughly 5 million per additional NG level.

That or it is just 1 million, NG+ 2m, NG++ 3m, etc on top of what you have.

Digital Solitude · 28-05-2014 4:28pm

Cydoniac wrote: »

There is no exact stat yet but apparently it's roughly 5 million per additional NG level.

That or it is just 1 million, NG+ 2m, NG++ 3m, etc on top of what you have.

NG is 1 Million, NG+ is 2 million more than you started NG+ with, NG++ is 3 million higher than you started NG++ with, and so on. I had about 15 million and still had to add 3M in NG++ so I'm nearly certain that's how it works

Mickeroo · 28-05-2014 4:40pm

Digital Solitude wrote: »

NG is 1 Million, NG+ is 2 million more than you started NG+ with, NG++ is 3 million higher than you started NG++ with, and so on. I had about 15 million and still had to add 3M in NG++ so I'm nearly certain that's how it works

Did you get it to open yourself after NG? I had huge soul memory (15m+) by the time I went through on NG++ and wouldn't open without the 4 lord souls but I'm not sure how much of those souls were from that play through.

Digital Solitude · 28-05-2014 4:43pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

Did you get it to open yourself after NG? I had huge soul memory (15m+) by the time I went through on NG++ and wouldn't open without the 4 lord souls but I'm not sure how much of those souls were from that play through.

Yep opened it on NG+ I think it was, with 3 Great souls

GK1001 · 28-05-2014 5:14pm

logik wrote: »

So took down the Executioners Chariot last night but I wont lie, I died a few times on him due to the pesky skeletons!!! Also also you cannot block a single attack from the horse so I ended up switching to double handed sword and battering him.

Also that Red Phantom just before the boss fight killed me a few times, christ he hits hard... Just started Harvest Valley.

+1 on all of the above
not far ahead of you

just did the upper gutter, blighttownesque although probably not as unfair...rage was involved though

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 28-05-2014 8:05pm

great

died fighting the darklurker again, hundred thousand odd souls left in the dark chasm of old

go to heides to farm a few knights, get money to repair my rings.. and I get invaded and ass raped

that's just great

--edit

turns out I had an unbroken ring of soul protection in my inventory the whole time.

that makes it all better

--edit

ALL THAT?!

ALL THAT FOR 35K ****ING SOULS?!

ZiabR · 28-05-2014 9:45pm

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

great

died fighting the darklurker again, hundred thousand odd souls left in the dark chasm of old

go to heides to farm a few knights, get money to repair my rings.. and I get invaded and ass raped

that's just great

--edit

turns out I had an unbroken ring of soul protection in my inventory the whole time.

that makes it all better

--edit

ALL THAT?!

ALL THAT FOR 35K ****ING SOULS?!

Ouch...I feel your pain but I cant stop smiling at your post!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 28-05-2014 11:07pm

http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkSouls2/comments/21hht9/the_nameless_song_spoilers/

so...... lore?

that's pretty interesting.

the milfanito sing to bring peace to those who bear dark and death and the song played over the end credits of dark souls 1. does it mean anything, was it just a nice little nod to fans of the first game?. the shrine of amana is a pretty ****ing important location lore wise so it's tempting to think nothing they put in there was by accident or "yeah that'll be cool, throw it in" but can the credits really be considered part of the lore?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktOIcoQr_Rw

related to above so maybe dont click until you've finished the game?

J_E · 28-05-2014 11:48pm

All 3 games have a similar track. DeS has Return To Slumber. I don't think it's that significant, rather than a loose theme.

ZiabR · 29-05-2014 8:18am

So finally got the Claymore last night after getting a second branch in "Harvest Valley". I have enough materials to upgrade it straight away to +7. I was moving from the Drangleic Sword which I love. I find the Claymore while it is more powerful it is alot slower to swing I am not getting as many hits in on enemy. I died a number of times last night because I was used to how my old sword handled. Anyone I speak to says the Claymore is amazing so maybe I just need time to get used to it.

Those Orb throwing enemies in Harvest Valley are a pain in the swiss roll!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 29-05-2014 8:27am

logik wrote: »

So finally got the Claymore last night after getting a second branch in "Harvest Valley". I have enough materials to upgrade it straight away to +7. I was moving from the Drangleic Sword which I love. I find the Claymore while it is more powerful it is alot slower to swing I am not getting as many hits in on enemy. I died a number of times last night because I was used to how my old sword handled. Anyone I speak to says the Claymore is amazing so maybe I just need time to get used to it.

Those Orb throwing enemies in Harvest Valley are a pain in the swiss roll!

i was a serious drangleic convert as well but after a while I did end up loving the claymore and found it out damaged the drangleic. I dabbled with the bastard sword a while before moving to the claymore, it was lovely but the claymore had that reach.

mastadon greatsword is where it's at though

ZiabR · 29-05-2014 8:35am

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

i was a serious drangleic convert as well but after a while I did end up loving the claymore and found it out damaged the drangleic. I dabbled with the bastard sword a while before moving to the claymore, it was lovely but the claymore had that reach.

mastadon greatsword is where it's at though

Yeah, I think I just time to adjust to the Claymore. At +7 it is doing something like 246 base + 105 so I am hitting for 490 - 900 depending.

Will keep an eye out for the mastadon greatsword so!

penev10 · 29-05-2014 8:43am

logik wrote: »

So finally got the Claymore last night after getting a second branch in "Harvest Valley". I have enough materials to upgrade it straight away to +7. I was moving from the Drangleic Sword which I love. I find the Claymore while it is more powerful it is alot slower to swing I am not getting as many hits in on enemy. I died a number of times last night because I was used to how my old sword handled. Anyone I speak to says the Claymore is amazing so maybe I just need time to get used to it.

The Claymore's biggest asset is it's strong attack which is a forward thrusting lunge. It has great range and can allow you to strike without without risk of a counter a lot of the time. Once you get used to it and get the timing down you'll be laughing.

The Mastadon Greatsword is a stronger and slightly longer variant but it lacks the thrusting attack.

[CrimsonGhost] · 29-05-2014 8:56am

logik wrote: »

So took down the Executioners Chariot last night but I wont lie, I died a few times on him due to the pesky skeletons!!! Also also you cannot block a single attack from the horse so I ended up switching to double handed sword and battering him.

Also that Red Phantom just before the boss fight killed me a few times, christ he hits hard... Just started Harvest Valley.

After the first Summoner is dead loop back to the entrance and ensure all skeletons are dead. Then pick a handy alcove and pick off the chariot with arrows, knives, bombs, etc. At 25% he will fail to make the jump and a single hit sends him falling to his death.

After covetous demon and the jars of food hanging from the ceiling this has to be the easiest boss in the game. Huge disappointment for me.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 29-05-2014 9:07am

[CrimsonGhost] wrote: »

After the first Summoner is dead loop back to the entrance and ensure all skeletons are dead. Then pick a handy alcove and pick off the chariot with arrows, knives, bombs, etc. At 25% he will fail to make the jump and a single hit sends him falling to his death.

well you could just not cheese him if you think he's too easy...

After covetous demon and the jars of food hanging from the ceiling this has to be the easiest boss in the game. Huge disappointment for me.

ZiabR · 29-05-2014 9:07am

[CrimsonGhost] wrote: »

After the first Summoner is dead loop back to the entrance and ensure all skeletons are dead. Then pick a handy alcove and pick off the chariot with arrows, knives, bombs, etc. At 25% he will fail to make the jump and a single hit sends him falling to his death.

After covetous demon and the jars of food hanging from the ceiling this has to be the easiest boss in the game. Huge disappointment for me.

Great tip there, I killed him the old fashioned way but thanks for the strategy!

Sgt Hartman · 29-05-2014 9:44am

Twelve PvP victories in a row yesterday with my faith build. That was my best night ever

iamanengine · 29-05-2014 12:01pm

Sgt Hartman wrote: »

Twelve PvP victories in a row yesterday with my faith build. That was my best night ever

What's your build?

Also yes, Mastodon Great Sword is king!!

Un Croissant · 29-05-2014 12:02pm

Shrine of Amana is fd up.

YouSavedMyLife · 29-05-2014 12:17pm

Un Croissant wrote: »

Shrine of Amana is fd up.

Its pretty easy now compared to how it was before. Don't use a torch as it will draw the attention of the water monsters.

Mickeroo · 29-05-2014 12:20pm

Found the chariot dude hard at first until I realised you can roll under the spikes on the wheels. Basically ignore the skeletons and sprint to the summoners, chariot will kill the skeletons for you.

ZiabR · 29-05-2014 12:24pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

Found the chariot dude hard at first until I realised you can roll under the spikes on the wheels. Basically ignore the skeletons and sprint to the summoners, chariot will kill the skeletons for you.

That is kinda what I did alright but didn't know you could roll under the spikes. Doh!

Dark Souls II

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