Dark Souls II

Kiith

Got Ricards Rapier last night and i love it. Really quick attack, and i can use it from behind a shield as well.

Good thing i found it though, as it's the first weapon I've found in about 10 hours that isn't a bog standard shortsword or curved sword. Also not finding any titanite shards to upgrade my weapons or armour, and the Blacksmith is all out. Is there anywhere to farm them?

Retr0gamer

There's another vendor later that sells more.

I need to stop reading this thread, I won't be able to play this again until Friday due to work

chickenboy

I'm sure I was getting titanite from the small mummies in the last bastille. Also, if you have smooth and silky stones, I think there's a chance of getting some from the crows.

YouSavedMyLife

Kiith wrote: »

Got Ricards Rapier last night and i love it. Really quick attack, and i can use it from behind a shield as well.

Good thing i found it though, as it's the first weapon I've found in about 10 hours that isn't a bog standard shortsword or curved sword. Also not finding any titanite shards to upgrade my weapons or armour, and the Blacksmith is all out. Is there anywhere to farm them?

Rapiers are godlike in this game. They attack so fast for so much damage at a very low stamina cost. Big damage versus armoured foes also. And let's face it, armoured enemies are some of the toughest in the game. Got Ricards also but couldn't be arsed leveling up another rapier. Love the flashy R2 though.

Only bad thing is if you get swarmed by enemies it can be tough since its kinda a single target weapon. Estoc is a longer rapier with a horizontal slash on the R2.

Am I a rapier fanboy ?

Mickeroo

Using Ricsrds rapier as well, it's great but got me killed a few times as it has a habit of thrusting away to the left of where you're aiming.

Keep pushing through huntsman copse, the next area has enemies that drop shards (green guys with hammers) and a merchant that sells them.

Earthen peak reminds me a bit of sens. Total maze of a place though, also met the Irish guy last night

noodler

Retr0gamer wrote: »

There's another vendor later that sells more.

I need to stop reading this thread, I won't be able to play this again until Friday due to work

Argghh!!

So depressing this life lark!

I really needed a week off to play this.

quarryman

There's definitely an irony to the fact you play as an undead character but also benefit from having no life in in real life to play the game enough...

Retr0gamer

I've always wondered if it was the developers intention to have hollowing relate to people giving up on the game since in the games lore it refers to an undead that has lost all hope. It's a bit meta and stinks of reading into it too much like some undergrad thesis but when it comes to From Software I wouldn't be surprised if it was intentional.

ShadowHearth

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I've always wondered if it was the developers intention to have hollowing relate to people giving up on the game since in the games lore it refers to an undead that has lost all hope. It's a bit meta and stinks of reading into it too much like some undergrad thesis but when it comes to From Software I wouldn't be surprised if it was intentional.

Well, dark souls story telling and universe was introduced very cleverly. A huge difference from spoon feeding story in all current games. Until I sow that dark souls story animation video I only understood part of Wtf going in.
So yeah, most likely hallow was a good meta thing as you say. I bet a good part of people won't get it lol.

On other note: I think I found the irish guy people talk about. Now as most of you know, I am not irish, but I live here for good few years now. So I find it very interesting how holiwood and video games make irish accent.. I am no expert, but surely irish accent does not sound like fecking that?!

Retr0gamer

I'm guessing he has a Darby O'Gill/Lucky Charms accent then?

Mickeroo

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Well, dark souls story telling and universe was introduced very cleverly. A huge difference from spoon feeding story in all current games. Until I sow that dark souls story animation video I only understood part of Wtf going in.
So yeah, most likely hallow was a good meta thing as you say. I bet a good part of people won't get it

I think this game and demons souls did the story thing better, the first game was obtuse to the point of not having much of a story imo, when the lore is as interesting as this it shouldn't be confined to YouTube vids of fan theories, their should be a bit of a balance, so far I think ds2 gets the balance a bit better.

Kiith

I've got no idea what's going on in the game. I'm pretty sure i'm cursed, and have to collect some big souls, but that's about it...

johnny_ultimate

The story seems a little more transparent, but just a little. The melting mother and child at the start scared the **** out of me though :eek:

By the way, what's the story with the limited edition plaque (out of 2500) that came with Black Armour? An amazon exclusive?

noodler

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

By the way, what's the story with the limited edition plaque (out of 2500) that came with Black Armour? An amazon exclusive?

Good question.

I initially thought it meant there were only 2,500 Black Armour editions but obviously that can't be right!

The plaque thingis nice. What enemy did you get on the back of your one?

I don't recognise the guy on the back of mine yet.

J_E

Kiith wrote: »

I've got no idea what's going on in the game. I'm pretty sure i'm cursed, and have to collect some big souls, but that's about it...

Yeah, I'm finding the plot extremely vague and it's a little annoying. At least in DS1 you knew what was going on around you on a surface level.

Retr0gamer

I'm totally confused about the story as well and I've been paying attention to items and exhausting NPC dialogue. I thought DS1 was more transparent. You knew you were undead and your destiny was to kindle the first flame to extend it and you knew the basic lore behind different places you visited. It was the extended lore that gave more insight that was hidden away which made sense. You could blindly carry out your duty as the undead but you could if you paid attention look into the lore more and learn the true meaning of everything.

DS2 though. Not got a clue what is going on but there's firekeepers and the first flame was mentioned. I'm an undead that has come to Drangleic because of tales that the cure for undeath is here. That's all I've gotten.

I thought the story would be more accessible, it's much more obtuse than DS1!

Mickeroo

Anyone else think Drangleic actually might be Lordran? Lots of NPCs keep alluding to the place having many names in the past.

ShadowHearth

Mickeroo wrote: »

Anyone else think Drangleic actually might be Lordran? Lots of NPCs keep alluding to the place having many names in the past.

I found really interesting what Soul weapon vendor ( mage dude, Straid? ) has said. There were more then few kingdoms in this place already and that he is not even from the last one and was turned in stone a lot longer then we think.

Mickeroo

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I found really interesting what Soul weapon vendor ( mage dude, Straid? ) has said. There were more then few kingdoms in this place already and that he is not even from the last one and was turned in stone a lot longer then we think.

Yeah it was him that really got me thinking too, I get the impression the first game was hundreds of years ago if not thousands.

chickenboy

I agree with the vague storyline. Not really sure what I'm doing, other than hunting for 4 boss souls.

The other thing DS1 did was give you the vaguest of hints as to what to expect. I completely missed it on my first playthrough, but as an example, you were warned about the capra demon by reading descriptions. Now I just head into the fog without any expectations. Was there anything that gave away that you were heading for the lost sinner or the skeleton bosses?

ShadowHearth

chickenboy wrote: »

I agree with the vague storyline. Not really sure what I'm doing, other than hunting for 4 boss souls.

The other thing DS1 did was give you the vaguest of hints as to what to expect. I completely missed it on my first playthrough, but as an example, you were warned about the capra demon by reading descriptions. Now I just head into the fog without any expectations. Was there anything that gave away that you were heading for the lost sinner or the skeleton bosses?

Its funny how they were saying about making dark souls 2 story simpler and more mainstream, but instead, it is even more vague lol.


The sinner was a puzzle for me. I did not even knew he was important until I killed him and got bazilion souls with a different looking souls. I hope there will be some sort of reveal on that.

krudler

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I've always wondered if it was the developers intention to have hollowing relate to people giving up on the game since in the games lore it refers to an undead that has lost all hope. It's a bit meta and stinks of reading into it too much like some undergrad thesis but when it comes to From Software I wouldn't be surprised if it was intentional.

Hollowing is meant to be a drawn out process so it'd fit in with the idea of it, you're dead but not really and become more dead the more often you die, or something...

J_E

Mickeroo wrote: »

Anyone else think Drangleic actually might be Lordran? Lots of NPCs keep alluding to the place having many names in the past.

Yep, I definitely got that impression, many references, I've found both the Leo ring and Hawk ring, wonder if the other 2 are hidden in the game.

(by the way, I recommend visiting the fiery bottom in the Forest of Fallen Giants castle if you're stronger. The lizards below are fiercely powerful but there are ways around them. There's a few treasures at the bottom worth having.)

Mickeroo

Cydoniac wrote: »

(by the way, I recommend visiting the fiery bottom in the Forest of Fallen Giants castle if you're stronger. The lizards below are fiercely powerful but there are ways around them. There's a few treasures at the bottom worth having.)

I spent an hour trying to find the way down, how you get there? Spoiler the reply I suppose

tok9

Mickeroo wrote: »

I spent an hour trying to find the way down, how you get there? Spoiler the reply I suppose

I'm going to assume you need that cat ring you buy... well.. off the cat. :pac:

J_E

Mickeroo wrote: »

I spent an hour trying to find the way down, how you get there? Spoiler the reply I suppose

Oh, it's fairly straight forward, but not obvious at first.

where you found the fire longsword, there's a lizard shooting fireballs. Kill him and jump into the area he occupied. You want to be very careful though because there's another lizard nearby and they charge very heavily. I sniped the rest of them with a bow. For your efforts you get a Flame Quartz Ring +1, Hawk Ring, and a few other things.

krudler

tok9 wrote: »

I'm going to assume you need that cat ring you buy... well.. off the cat. :pac:

That ring is handy, I died a few times trying to get down the well though it's not advisable to do it if you're hollow and on less health

calex71

The spawns for the invaders in the belfry are out right annoying , lost count of how many times I've been at the boss fog waiting to summon or be summoned and I get invaded , fine I'll have some jolly fisticuffs , but then to have another spawn right behind you and one shot you is just a cheap win for them :mad:

J_E

krudler wrote: »

That ring is handy, I died a few times trying to get down the well though it's not advisable to do it if you're hollow and on less health

It's actually just about doable without that ring but you're really chancing it unless you have high health, a lot of estus and a knack for long jumps.

calex71 wrote: »

The spawns for the invaders in the belfry are out right annoying , lost count of how many times I've been at the boss fog waiting to summon or be summoned and I get invaded , fine I'll have some jolly fisticuffs , but then to have another spawn right behind you and one shot you is just a cheap win for them

They're bad enough in Belfry Luna but in the other place they make you want to rip your hair out! I find dashing through that area is best.

Kiith

Cydoniac wrote: »

Oh, it's fairly straight forward, but not obvious at first.

where you found the fire longsword, there's a lizard shooting fireballs. Kill him and jump into the area he occupied. You want to be very careful though because there's another lizard nearby and they charge very heavily. I sniped the rest of them with a bow. For your efforts you get a Flame Quartz Ring +1, Hawk Ring, and a few other things.

I spent like 20 minutes jumping there, and couldn't get in. Figured it was a dead end :pac:

Also, i've died about 20 times in Huntsmans Corpse, trying to jump onto that ledge near the 2nd bonfire with the item. I keep rolling off the bloody ledge. It bloody better be worth it when i spend another hour trying to get it tonight.