GW 17 Transfers

YeatsCounty

I have 3.8 in the bank, which I was planning to use to upgrade Morrison to Bale. However since Morrison is playing deep these days and is dropping in value tonight or tomorrow, I was thinking of swapping him for Snodgrass for one week until Bale is fit again. I can make a bit of extra cash from Snodgrass, hopefully.

The only problem is that I'd have to hold on to Fletcher for another couple of weeks but I don't see a cut and dried replacement for him anyway until I downgrade Jose Enrique.

Thoughts? This is my current team for next week:

Jaaskelainen
Cameron/Rafael/Jose Enrique/Hughes
Michu/Fellaini/Morrison
Van Persie/Suarez/Fletcher

Subs: Mignolet/Clyne/Puncheon/Mata

Edit: Or should I just wait and hope Bale is fit for this week?

billymitchell

Got Defoe in for LeFondre.

Team for the week
De gea
o'brien/rafael/cameron
Sterling/fellani/michu/carzola
suarez/defoe/tevez

FutureGuy

Rooney and Snodgrass in for Walcott and Ba. Love Walcott but injured again and it seems that contract talks not going well. I consider Snodgrass a sneaky 2 week gamble but he rose in price last night and I think he might again before the end of the week.



Done for the week but might take a hit on Saturday morning for a defender if needed.

Iused2likebusts

CrabieCrawford wrote: »

What do people think of bringing in sagna. Only 5.1 and as mentioned befor arsenal have a decent run. Will he defo start the next couple of fixtures or better off bringing in a sure starter liker metersacker?

ye im thinking of getting sagna in for enrique this week. The values gone from enrique(although they do have nice fixtures) now that hes back playing left back and a slight injury doubt for the weekend.

FutureGuy

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

ye im thinking of getting sagna in for enrique this week. The values gone from enrique(although they do have nice fixtures) now that hes back playing left back and a slight injury doubt for the weekend.

Agreed, but I'll hold him even if he a doubt. If he is confirmed out, I might get in Sagna of Nastasic. If he is not injured, will get rid of Cuellar for someone around 4.0 to get some funds for Mata/Silva/Bale

FutureGuy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT2DjV2jFMI

There is a growing feeling that United will be out to try and humiliate Sunderland at Old Trafford on Saturday and that SAF will be using the comments above to motivate their player to get a measure of revenge.

Last night, both Rose and Bardsley went off injured and their 2 CBs ended the game at LB and RB. Perhaps a defensive crisis at Sunderland on Saturday?

Plenty of reasons to stock up on United this weekend.

BroLo

FutureGuy wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT2DjV2jFMI

There is a growing feeling that United will be out to try and humiliate Sunderland at Old Trafford on Saturday and that SAF will be using the comments above to motivate their player to get a measure of revenge.

Last night, both Rose and Bardsley went off injured and their 2 CBs ended the game at LB and RB. Perhaps a defensive crisis at Sunderland on Saturday?

Plenty of reasons to stock up on United this weekend.

I would love to stock up on United this weekend, but I just don't have the cash. Rooney & RVP are the two I see doing major damage, but I can't get both, so I don't know whether to leave RVP or bring in Rooney and hope he becomes a prolific goal scorer for the rest of the season.

Swiper the fox

FutureGuy, you have plenty of form in this regard, coming on here and advising us that Utd are gonna open up a can of whoopass any time they have a favorable fixture:pac::pac:;)

On a serious note, outside of Rooney and RVP do you see value anywhere else, I couldn't be relying on a utd clean sheet till Vidic is back, or any midfielder till Kagawa.

FutureGuy

Swiper the fox wrote: »

FutureGuy, you have plenty of form in this regard, coming on here and advising us that Utd are gonna open up a can of whoopass any time they have a favorable fixture:pac::pac:;)

On a serious note, outside of Rooney and RVP do you see value anywhere else, I couldn't be relying on a utd clean sheet till Vidic is back, or any midfielder till Kagawa.

I know, but this is an exceptional circumstance and I'm making the case that an overload on United attacking options ain't the worst idea in the world especially between now and the Christmas wildcard! United will need to get as many points ahead of City as possible before the European football starts again as City will be more rested.

As a United fan, when facing weaker teams at home, I want three points and a good performance. On Saturday, I hope United wipe the fcuking floor with them after they (the fans) celebrated City winning the league. I mean absolutely embarass them. United are yet to completely trounce someone this season and Sunderland look like they could receive a beating from a team that is on form. Rooney has already stated he is looking for retribution and I am sure they will all feel the same.

I'm waiting on Kagawa to get settled again but he is on my radar. Valencia is also a semi-decent bet, but with RVP and/or Rooney in your team covering United and so many better options in midfield right now, I cannot justify adding a United midfielder for another few weeks. If Kagawa looks enticing after Christmas, I may bring him in and get rid of Rooney or RVP.

If I had Rafael, I'd keep him but with Vidic back and Smalling doing everything to get a starting place, I cannot take a risk on transferring Rafael in right now.

FutureGuy

BroLo wrote: »

I would love to stock up on United this weekend, but I just don't have the cash. Rooney & RVP are the two I see doing major damage, but I can't get both, so I don't know whether to leave RVP or bring in Rooney and hope he becomes a prolific goal scorer for the rest of the season.

I will not say to bring in Rooney for RVP. It's the type of advice that could backfire. But if you look at Rooney, when he gets in form he is absolutely incredible regardless of fixtures.

I'll say this...Rooney is probably going to be my captain and not RVP.

BroLo

FutureGuy wrote: »

I will not say to bring in Rooney for RVP. It's the type of advice that could backfire. But if you look at Rooney, when he gets in form he is absolutely incredible regardless of fixtures.

I'll say this...Rooney is probably going to be my captain and not RVP.

Yeah that's true. It's a tough call, it's the type of game where either or in this case even both of them could fire a hat trick.

Has Rooney been playing further forward of late? Last I heard he was playing deeper, closer to an attacking midfielder?

Necronomicon

I'd love to get Rooney in, but don't think I can afford it. The only two options for me are replacing RVP (don't want to do it because I think RVP is going to be more consistent over the season) or replacing Tevez and downgrading Bale to a 7.6 midfielder.

donglen

Thoughts on strikeforce please: (I've 3.5 in the bank so I can seriously upgrade Fletcher)

Current:
RVP
Aguero
Fletcher

I was thinking of: Option 1
RVP
Aguero
Suarez

but now thinking of: Option 2
RVP
Rooney
Tevez

Thoughts please

keane2097

Anyone know who makes up WBA's first choice backline?

Oregano_State

donglen wrote: »

Thoughts on strikeforce please: (I've 3.5 in the bank so I can seriously upgrade Fletcher)

Current:
RVP
Aguero
Fletcher

I was thinking of: Option 1
RVP
Aguero
Suarez

but now thinking of: Option 2
RVP
Rooney
Tevez

Thoughts please

Jaysus, you've a stacked attack!

Can't see much of a problem having tevez and aguero, although I'd have Rooney over Aguero personally, with United's fixtures.

Hrm I can just about afford this:

Present forwards:
Ba Berbs RVP

Possible forwards:
Rooney Le Fondre RVP

Other options would be Ba for Rooney and Cazorla for Snodgrass... but I just don't trust Norwich to keep scoring well, they've only scored 17 goals this year so far (just over 1 per game). Other options for Snodgrass are Duffer who seems to play 90 minutes one game and then only do 30 in the following game. The other thing is that I've 1M in the bank which I was saving to bring Bale back in at the end of the month which'd be completely used up to bring in Rooney under the above option. Decisions decisions.

extra gravy

Major surgery required on my team at the minute:

Krul
Jaaskelainen

Clyne
Cuellar
Enrique
Gorkss
Shawcross

Fellaini
Sterling
Bale
Ramirez
Sessegnon

RVP
Tevez
Le Fondre

With Clyne having no game and Gorkss not first choice anymore, I'm faced with the prospect of playing Cuellar at OT. Want to keep Bale until he's back. Sessegnon was a punt for the DGW but has to go soon I think. Ramirez has done nothing since I got him and has no game this week. Was going to use my transfer to get Michu back in again. Have taken too many hits the last few weeks so don't want to take any more. Any suggestions??

FutureGuy

STOP THE PRESS>>>>

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1595837_unwell-wayne-rooney-cancels-5pm-book-signing-at-manchester-arndale-centre

BroLo

FutureGuy wrote: »

STOP THE PRESS>>>>

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1595837_unwell-wayne-rooney-cancels-5pm-book-signing-at-manchester-arndale-centre

Probably just went on a bender last night and was hungover... I kid, this may make my decision so much easier now, although it is probably nothing too serious and he will play this weekend.

Swiper the fox

It seems Cameron for Stoke will go up overnight, I've been thinking of getting another Stoke at the back, I have Begovic, I'll be replacing McCartney from West Ham, question is are Stoke ever gonna implode or is that backline all it seems, I'd be nervous enough about having 2 from the same team but obviously it has it's benefits. I was thinking of saving my transfer for saturday morning to get the latest on Bale, if he plays he will make mincemeat out of Swansea, it'll be like Kevin Mouse back in the day:pac::p

manual_man

Swiper the fox wrote: »

It seems Cameron for Stoke will go up overnight, I've been thinking of getting another Stoke at the back, I have Begovic, I'll be replacing McCartney from West Ham, question is are Stoke ever gonna implode or is that backline all it seems, I'd be nervous enough about having 2 from the same team but obviously it has it's benefits. I was thinking of saving my transfer for saturday morning to get the latest on Bale, if he plays he will make mincemeat out of Swansea, it'll be like Kevin Mouse back in the day:pac::p

personally i hope even more double and triple up on Stoke defenders people will just get greedy there's no way they'll continue getting as many clean sheets just look at their upcoming fixture list, i hope they concede v Everton (who have scored in every game except 1) this weekend i can just see loads of people playing 2 and even 3 Stokies at the back, i have Shawcross myself but he'll be benched this weekend

Ares

Stoke City, and Asmir Begovic and Geoff Cameron have been my favourite two fantasy players this year. Since I brought in Cameron in GW 10 the two have combined for 68 points in 7 weeks. For a goalkeeper and defender that's amazing.

Rayne Wooney

manual_man wrote: »

personally i hope even more double and triple up on Stoke defenders people will just get greedy there's no way they'll continue getting as many clean sheets just look at their upcoming fixture list, i hope they concede v Everton (who have scored in every game except 1) this weekend i can just see loads of people playing 2 and even 3 Stokies at the back, i have Shawcross myself but he'll be benched this weekend

You know, after that post, Shawcross will get a clean sheet and 7 blocks with his face to earn him 3 bonus points :pac:

benji2012

have a look at this team, think i should change anyone or get a new captain?
jasskelainen
a cole nastacic clarke
sterling snodgrass michu fellani
rooney tevez van persie(captain)

Mr.Prodston

benji2012 wrote: »

have a look at this team, think i should change anyone or get a new captain?
jasskelainen
a cole nastacic clarke
sterling snodgrass michu fellani
rooney tevez van persie(captain)

Ashley Cole will not play this weekend, I would try and get some Stoke defense in there too. RVP is the best candidate for a captain over the course of a season. Although Rooney would be more of a wildcard captain.

jolim24601

I don't agree with pairing Rooney and RVP at all. It's a stupid move because you're losing a lot of quality in your midfield and you're looking at a limited amount of minutes when you consider the fact that they will be rested in the course of the season. Man U are still very much in the Champions League as well.

If you don't have Mata, Bale, Silva, Hazard, or Cazorla in your midfield you're going to pay for that sooner or later. People who think cut-price midfielders like Fellaini and Michu are going to salvage the lack of elite players in their midfield will be punished.

Phoenix Park

jolim24601 wrote: »

I don't agree with pairing Rooney and RVP at all. It's a stupid move because you're losing a lot of quality in your midfield and you're looking at a limited amount of minutes when you consider the fact that they will be rested in the course of the season. Man U are still very much in the Champions League as well.

If you don't have Mata, Bale, Silva, Hazard, or Cazorla in your midfield you're going to pay for that sooner or later. People who think cut-price midfielders like Fellaini and Michu are going to salvage the lack of elite players in their midfield will be punished.

I've had bothRooney and RVP for over a month and gone from low down in my league to closing in on a Champions League spot

Only shame is that everyone is now wise to it and that edge is gone. Rooney has been great to own the last few weeks, i'd be afraid to get rid of RVP and Utd have great fixtures to come.

All about getting points, this stuff of being top-heavy and limiting your midfield is for the birds. Get the players that get you the most points in their respective positions and work around the prices. I have Bale out of the midfielders you mentioned. I sold Mata and Silva a while ago to get in Fellaini and Michu. Only mistake i made was not doing it earlier. I'd love to have have kept Silva in particular but you can't have it all. Nothing wrong with splashing out for both Rooney and RVP imo.

FutureGuy

jolim24601 wrote: »

I don't agree with pairing Rooney and RVP at all. It's a stupid move because you're losing a lot of quality in your midfield and you're looking at a limited amount of minutes when you consider the fact that they will be rested in the course of the season. Man U are still very much in the Champions League as well.

If you don't have Mata, Bale, Silva, Hazard, or Cazorla in your midfield you're going to pay for that sooner or later. People who think cut-price midfielders like Fellaini and Michu are going to salvage the lack of elite players in their midfield will be punished.

I think you are basing your idea on qality on the price of the player. I think the lack of big hitters in midfield last year would have been suicide, but with Michu, Nolan, Felliani, Sterling and Puncheon scoring well, you do not need more than one midfield player worth 9m+.

You say that Michu and Felliani are not going to make up for big hitters? We are halfway through the season and they have not only matched their score but they have beaten them by a dozen points and for 3.5 m less!

I have RVP, Suarez and Rooney up top and have Michu, Snodgrass, Felliani, and Puncheon in my midfield, and Cazorla as my current heavy hitter. Cazorla can be changed to Bale/Mata/Silva as I see fit.

2 x 5.5 m defenders provide the spine of my defense and 3 cheap defenders rotate each week.

EDIT: I will admit that getting in Much and Felliani NOW, when they are now both 8m isn't a clear cut decision when Bale, Mata and Silva are just 1.5 m more. But if you bought them early (I got Michu at 6.5 in GW 1 and Felliani at 7.0 in GW11), then it's madness to get rid of them.

roryc

I'm still struggling to see any transfer other than Fletcher to Berbatov.



Fulham have QPR, Liverpool, Southampton, Swansea, West Brom and Wigan in their next 6 games, I fully expect Berbs to perform against these teams. Fletcher has United and City coming up before Christmas, and hasn't been on fire.

My defence worries me though, with Enrique doubtful and Azpilicueta missing a game (and didn't get a game last week) I'm thinking perhaps I might need to look at strengthening up this week. Rafael isn't guaranteed a start, so I may be stuck with just Cameron and Clark (who faces Liverpool!).

Hopefully I can play Rafael, Enrique and Cameron, but I'll be saving my transfer until tomorrow or Saturday morning until I hear more news. If it looks like I might be stuck I'll have to shift Azpilicueta.

Bassong won't even be considered, he's had an amazing few games but there's no way he will keep this up. Not much other options though, perhaps Mertesacker?

Necronomicon

roryc wrote: »

My defence worries me though, with Enrique doubtful and Azpilicueta missing a game (and didn't get a game last week) I'm thinking perhaps I might need to look at strengthening up this week. Rafael isn't guaranteed a start, so I may be stuck with just Cameron and Clark (who faces United!).

Hopefully I can play Rafael, Enrique and Cameron, but I'll be saving my transfer until tomorrow or Saturday morning until I hear more news. If it looks like I might be stuck I'll have to shift Azpilicueta.

Bassong won't even be considered, he's had an amazing few games but there's no way he will keep this up. Not much other options though, perhaps Mertesacker?

Villa are playing Liverpool this weekend, or was that a typo?

roryc

Necronomicon wrote: »

Villa are playing Liverpool this weekend, or was that a typo?

Indeed it was. Basically means the same though, can't see them holding Suarez.

John83

roryc wrote: »

I'm still struggling to see any transfer other than Fletcher to Berbatov.

My defence worries me though, with Enrique doubtful and Azpilicueta missing a game (and didn't get a game last week) I'm thinking perhaps I might need to look at strengthening up this week. Rafael isn't guaranteed a start, so I may be stuck with just Cameron and Clark (who faces Liverpool!).

I've already made my transfer - getting Fellaini in for Bale because of prices. Planning on taking a 4 point hit to get Berbs in as well. Can't see Sunderland or Fletcher for that matter doing much against Utd.

However like yourself it will probably be Enrique's fitness that will decide it. He tweeted this morning that he was on the way in for treatment - what level of treatment he's getting is anyone's guess.

I have Rafael, Cameron and Enrique ready to start. Not too confidant of my backups in defense - Clark and Demel (was subbed off against Liverpool last week at HT).

roryc

John83 wrote: »

I've already made my transfer - getting Fellaini in for Bale because of prices. Planning on taking a 4 point hit to get Berbs in as well. Can't see Sunderland or Fletcher for that matter doing much against Utd.

However like yourself it will probably be Enrique's fitness that will decide it. He tweeted this morning that he was on the way in for treatment - what level of treatment he's getting is anyone's guess.

I have Rafael, Cameron and Enrique ready to start. Not too confidant of my backups in defense - Clark and Demel (was subbed off against Liverpool last week at HT).

Firstly, the Fellaini -> Bale transfer was probably premature, Bale could start this weekend. Secondly, I can't see how taking a 4 point hit to get in Berbs is good. Points hits are rarely worth it, especially not in this situation.

What you really need to look at is your defence, you're in a similar situation to me and fixing that could be more important than anything (including your Fellaini transfer).

manual_man

@roryc wait on Enrique news maybe, but my advice to you would be to ditch Azpilicueta, no game this week and like you said his spot might not be guaranteed any more, less so with Terry back any time now. Gibbs for 5.4 is what i'd recommend, guaranteed starter, nice run, and even picked up some bp last game if i remember correctly (he's Arsenals best def attacking-wise anyway imo). i'd wait a couple of weeks to do fletch->berbs, fletch has S'hampton next week and Sunderland look to have found their shooting boots, Fulham's nice run doesn't start til the week after anyway

SpaceCowb0y

Suarez or Defoe this week??? If i Bring Suarez in i will captain him, if i keep Defoe i will Captain RVP... any opinions?

manual_man

SpaceCowb0y wrote: »

Suarez or Defoe this week??? If i Bring Suarez in i will captain him, if i keep Defoe i will Captain RVP... any opinions?

Rooney

billymitchell

manual_man wrote: »

Rooney

Madness doubling up on United up front. Liverpool and spurs both have a run of good games coming up, no harm to have either as attacking cover.
I'd plum for Suarez if it was a choice between him and Defoe. I have both in my team

manual_man

billymitchell wrote: »

Madness doubling up on United up front. Liverpool and spurs both have a run of good games coming up, no harm to have either as attacking cover.
I'd plum for Suarez if it was a choice between him and Defoe. I have both in my team

I have Suarez, but he's hit and miss. Defoe has done well but with Ade back rotation looms. With Rooney and Rvp though you're morealess guaranteed returns. Delighted i have the both of them

FutureGuy

billymitchell wrote: »

Madness doubling up on United up front. Liverpool and spurs both have a run of good games coming up, no harm to have either as attacking cover.
I'd plum for Suarez if it was a choice between him and Defoe. I have both in my team

Explain. Please.

alchemist33

FutureGuy wrote: »

Explain. Please.

It wasn't me who daid it but they're two very expensive eggs in the one basket. Neither are guaranteed starts over xmas, and worst of all, how would you feel if the weather cancels a Utd game?

manual_man

alchemist33 wrote: »

It wasn't me who daid it but they're two very expensive eggs in the one basket. Neither are guaranteed starts over xmas, and worst of all, how would you feel if the weather cancels a Utd game?

Ronnie Stam will be subbed in. I'll be fine

Fritzl Funderland

yep agree, look at ferguson's team selections over the xmas period the last few years he always changes and with Manu having tough Cup tie at West Ham first week in Jan, Rooney RVP may play in that so welbeck hernandez could start some of the league games before that

kippy

Fritzl Funderland wrote: »

yep agree, look at ferguson's team selections over the xmas period the last few years he always changes and with Manu having tough Cup tie at West Ham first week in Jan, Rooney RVP may play in that so welbeck hernandez could start some of the league games before that

I'd agree as well, plus the fact that Kagawa is due back shortly and he can play in the Rooney position if required.

It's a risky tactic (which a few people have already outlined) and for it to be beneficial, in my opinion youd want both players scoring/assisting/starting.

FutureGuy

alchemist33 wrote: »

It wasn't me who daid it but they're two very expensive eggs in the one basket. Neither are guaranteed starts over xmas, and worst of all, how would you feel if the weather cancels a Utd game?

Yes, a basket made of iron that could clatter the ****e of teams.

SpaceCowb0y

manual_man wrote: »

Rooney

Do you really think bringing Rooney in is the answer? I have the money for that move but it would leave me with very little to play with after! I was planning on bringing Suarez in as he hasn't played in a fortnight now so should be raring to go, plus Villa are shit, so i would imagine there will be goals!

If i bring Rooney in i wont have the funds to transfer Walcott out for Bale next week which is what i had planned since i took him out over his injury!

manual_man

SpaceCowb0y wrote: »

Do you really think bringing Rooney in is the answer? I have the money for that move but it would leave me with very little to play with after! I was planning on bringing Suarez in as he hasn't played in a fortnight now so should be raring to go, plus Villa are shit, so i would imagine there will be goals!

If i bring Rooney in i wont have the funds to transfer Walcott out for Bale next week which is what i had planned since i took him out over his injury!

One man's team is not the same as another. I can afford to get Bale in for Cazorla if i so wish, if you're concerned about that then don't get Rooney. If i didn't have Suarez, i probably would have transferred him in rather than Rooney, but i had Suarez already so...

SpaceCowb0y

manual_man wrote: »

One man's team is not the same as another. I can afford to get Bale in for Cazorla if i so wish, if you're concerned about that then don't get Rooney. If i didn't have Suarez, i probably would have transferred him in rather than Rooney, but i had Suarez already so...

So you reckon Suarez over Defoe this weekend is the right move then! Thats what i was planning all week but i see some people on here reckon Defoe will do well against Swansea, i (maybe being biased as a Pool fan) think Liverpool will do far better against Villa!

manual_man

SpaceCowb0y wrote: »

So you reckon Suarez over Defoe this weekend is the right move then! Thats what i was planning all week but i see some people on here reckon Defoe will do well against Swansea, i (maybe being biased as a Pool fan) think Liverpool will do far better against Villa!

Yeah i'd punt for Suarez, another thing he's guaranteed to start all the festive fixtures so long as he's available

Iused2likebusts

manual_man wrote: »

I have Suarez, but he's hit and miss. Defoe has done well but with Ade back rotation looms. With Rooney and Rvp though you're morealess guaranteed returns. Delighted i have the both of them

I think rooney and rvp is a good shout for the next few gws but theres no way both will start every game over the xmas period. Utd play swa (23rd), New (26th), WBA (29th), Wig (1st) 4 games in 9 days. As a previous poster mentioned they have a tough cup game after wigan where rvp and roo will probably start aswell. If I was getting the two in it would only be for the next two/three GWS. Assuming no injuries wellbeck hernandez kagawa will all get game time.

FutureGuy

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I think rooney and rvp is a good shout for the next few gws but theres no way both will start every game over the xmas period. Utd play swa (23rd), New (26th), WBA (29th), Wig (1st) 4 games in 9 days. As a previous poster mentioned they have a tough cup game after wigan where rvp and roo will probably start aswell. If I was getting the two in it would only be for the next two/three GWS. Assuming no injuries wellbeck hernandez kagawa will all get game time.

RVP, ROONEY and SUAREZ as a front line is a short term option but fits perfectly into a plan until the Christmas wildcard.

I'd like to see if Mancini starts settling on his attacking options and how Torres does over the next few weeks before breaking up that combination.